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  1. A walk in Glen Feshie in the Cairngorm National Park:

    Quoted message said:

    From the car park north of Auchlean we walked past this farm and took


    the path towards the wood where we crossed the Allt Fhearnagan and were
    confronted by loads of shooters who had the wood surrounded. I am not
    sure what they were after, pheasants or foxes but we never heard any
    shots. We got permission to proceed but it was like having an armed
    escort as we walked towards the bridge over the River Feshie. This
    bridge is now in good condition having been repaired and this allowed
    the shooters to drive across the bridge and park their vehicles at
    various points on the east side of the river.

    Once on the opposite side of the river we followed a path south until
    it joined the tarred and well maintained road almost as far as
    Carnachuin. Here we headed uphill by a vehicle track but once beyond
    the forest we left the track and climbed the heather clad hillside onto
    the north ridge of Carn Dearg Beag where there was a faint path.

    This path was followed to the summit trig point of Carn Dearg Beag.
    The early sun had been replaced by cloud and it was windy as we
    continued south towards Carn Dearg Mor. This was a reasonably easy
    ascent following the faint path through the heather but unfortunately
    it was very windy and once again we had a ten minute blast of snow just
    before we arrived on the summit of Carn Dearg Mor.

    It was too cold and windy to hang about on the open summit so we headed
    to the bealach to the south-west and then dropped down to the vehicle
    track than runs round the side of Carn Dearg.

    We found a reasonably sheltered area beside Lochan an t-Sluic for our
    lunch. This lochan has two streams that flow into it and none flowing
    out so we presumed that there must be some underground channel for the
    water to escape towards the River Feshie.

    After lunch we followed the track to the River Feshie and Glenfeshie
    Lodge but had to leave the track on numerous occasions to allow the
    shooter's vehicles to pass. They must have gone to the south west of
    Carn Dearg Mor but once again we never heard any shots. The track
    was followed back to Carnachuin and we then returned to our cars by the
    outward route.

    Photographs can be viewed at:
    http://www.caledoniahilltreks.com/galleries/glen_feshie_apr06/index.htm

    As usual statistical details can be found at
    http://caledoniahilltreks.blogspot.com

    Lindsay
    www.caledoniahilltreks.com

  2. Lindsay - you likely to be in the NW (Near Torridon) in the next couple
    of weeks? I've been following your TRs for an indication of snow
    conditions (it being easy to forget that there can be quite as much
    when you're stuck in the Central Lowlands) and I've an appointment with
    Liathach on May 1st. I was sort of hoping it would be clear by then -
    what do you think?

    druidh

  3. Doing some Munros this weekend for a client working out of Inverness,
    possibly some of The Deargs so will be able to get an indication what
    the snow is like in the North West then. Will post some details on my
    return.

    A bit of concern is that there have been a couple of deaths in the
    Scottish mountains this month already. I just wonder if they have
    been caught without axe or crampons. Normally if that is the case
    someone releases a Press Release about the conditions but I haven't
    seen anything.

    Lindsay
    www.caledoniahilltreks.com

  4. druidh said:

    Lindsay - you likely to be in the NW (Near Torridon) in the next couple
    of weeks? I've been following your TRs for an indication of snow
    conditions (it being easy to forget that there can be quite as much
    when you're stuck in the Central Lowlands) and I've an appointment with
    Liathach on May 1st. I was sort of hoping it would be clear by then -
    what do you think?

    You're probably already aware, but
    http://homepage.ntlworld.com/amploc/torridon/01.htm has a webcam that
    gives a very rough idea of snow cover. The hills in the camera aren't
    that high - max 903m - so you can extrapolate that snow on the hills in
    the camera will mean more snow on Liathach.

    Colin

  5. Lindsay said:

    A bit of concern is that there have been a couple of deaths in the
    Scottish mountains this month already. I just wonder if they have
    been caught without axe or crampons.

    Yes... it was a bit worrying to hear about a death on Ben More the
    day after we were on almost the same hill (we did the Eastern half of the
    horseshoe, but decided to head down after Stob Coire an Lochain).
    There were big cornices waiting to come down along all the Eastern edges.
    But like you said, no details were released about what happened.

    Roos

  6. druidh wrote:
    <SNIP>

    Quoted message said:

    I was sort of hoping it would be clear by then -
    what do you think?


    </SNIP>

    Druidh,

    Thanks for posting that....I'm also very interested in current
    conditions (or should I say likely conditions for w/c 30th April 2006).
    I've no ice axe or crampons - so will alter plans accordingly. I'm
    sure Grahams or Corbetts can be as much fun as M**ROS?!?!?!

    Any

    David.

  7. David the Corbett this thread started on was in fact clear of snow on
    Monday, albeit a few small patches. However there is still a fair
    amount of snow on the Munros. Looking to next week it looks like some
    more snow melt so the snow line should be rising as the temperatures do
    likewise.

    Lindsay
    www.caledoniahilltreks.com

  8. Lindsay wrote:
    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    However there is still a fair amount of snow on the Munros.
    Looking to next week it looks like some
    more snow melt so the snow line should be rising as the temperatures do
    likewise.


    </snip>

    Hi Lindsay

    Thanks for your response...

    As I'm very much a newbie north of the border what is your opinion on
    me attempting Ben Lui....?

    David.

  9. It depends on your ability. There will be snow higher up which may
    require the use of an axe and crampons but with the milder temperatures
    the snow should be softening a bit.

    If not experienced in winter conditions I would wait a few weeks when
    you should be able to avoid most of the snow fields.

    Ben Lui is a good hill to climb so best left for a good day.

    Lindsay
    www.caledoniahilltreks.com

  10. Lindsay said:

    It depends on your ability. There will be snow higher up which may
    require the use of an axe and crampons but with the milder temperatures
    the snow should be softening a bit.

    If not experienced in winter conditions I would wait a few weeks when
    you should be able to avoid most of the snow fields.

    Ben Lui is a good hill to climb so best left for a good day.

    Lindsay
    www.caledoniahilltreks.com

    Thanks again, Lindsay

    Sound advice - it does seem that the combination of a winter course
    plus purchasing crampons & axe should be on the agenda....although
    knowing my luck that would just ensure very mild winters for the next
    few years!

    Cheers David.

  11. Druidh

    Just back from a day in the Deargs and the another in Glen
    Starthfarrar.

    The snow conditions in the North-West are fairly difficult. Lots of
    deep soft snow, lots of avalanche debris, and this morning witnessed an
    avalanche. Cornices are all in a state of collapse. Snowing higher
    up this afternoon. On the tops the snow is obviously a lot thiner but
    in places still icy. Carried and used our axes, carried but didn't
    use crampons. I haven't seen a weather forecast for the next few days
    but the snow wil take a bit of shifting.

  12. Lindsay said:

    The snow conditions in the North-West are fairly difficult. Lots of
    deep soft snow, lots of avalanche debris, and this morning witnessed an
    avalanche. Cornices are all in a state of collapse. Snowing higher
    up this afternoon. On the tops the snow is obviously a lot thiner but
    in places still icy. Carried and used our axes, carried but didn't
    use crampons. I haven't seen a weather forecast for the next few days
    but the snow wil take a bit of shifting.

    What about Ben Lomond? Would that still be wearing its winter coat?

    David.

  13. I haven't been in that area for a few weeks. I think it has a lot less
    snow than those on the North-West. In any case a well worn path
    assists the ascent. Don't use the Ptarmigan route unless you think it
    is safe to do so. It is fairly steep near the summit.

    Lindsay
    www.caledoniahilltreks.com

  14. 214Fells said:

    What about Ben Lomond? Would that still be wearing its winter coat?

    We were next to Ben More near Crianlarich about 10 days ago. At that time,
    snow started around 750 m, with soft snow up to 850 or so, and pretty
    complete cover above that. Don't know how much has disappeared since then.

    Roos

  15. Roos wrote
    "We were next to Ben More near Crianlarich about 10 days ago. At that
    time,
    snow started around 750 m, with soft snow up to 850 or so, and pretty
    complete cover above that. Don't know how much has disappeared since
    then."

    Did you use both crampons and ice axe?

    Regards David.

  16. David

    Used axe yesterday as we were traversing below a rokface full of snow
    and also it was fairly steep. Didn't use crampons although it was icy
    on the final few feet onto summit. Carried them just in case as from
    experience the area round summits are often icy. Visibility was
    actually almosy zero getting onto summit due to snow shower and
    everything being white.

    Lindsay
    www.caledoniahilltreks.com

  17. Lindsay said:

    David

    "Used axe yesterday"

    Just seen this

    http://www.nevisport.com/deptdetail-3-deptdetail_id-179-product_id-382001

    Any good?

    David.

  18. David can't really comment as I have an old axe although it appears to
    be suitable for use by winter walkers. The price appears to be very
    reasonable.

    Lindsay
    www.caledoniahilltreks.com

  19. 214Fells said:

    Just seen this

    http://www.nevisport.com/deptdetail-3-deptdetail_id-179-product_id-382001

    Any good?

    As a walker's axe for occasional use, fine.You might want to try the
    Mountain Technology Snowhopper from the same place. I find MT heads
    more comfortable to hold and it has a rubber grip on the shaft. I've
    got a Camp Jolly (with a painted on "rubber" grip) as a second axe - I
    forgot my axe one day and had to nip into Pitlochry to buy one before
    going up Beinn a Ghlo.

    --
    Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

  20. Lindsay wrote
    "David can't really comment as I have an old axe although it appears to

    be suitable for use by winter walkers. The price appears to be very
    reasonable"

    Phil wrote
    "As a walker's axe for occasional use, fine.You might want to try the
    Mountain Technology Snowhopper from the same place. I find MT heads
    more comfortable to hold and it has a rubber grip on the shaft."

    Thanks Phil & Lindsay for your feedback.

    Cotswolds appear to offer the Grivel - down to London on Wednesday -
    may have a browse.....

    Cheer David.

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