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  1. Like many here I've been on the receiving end of various motorist
    abuse/carelessness/simply-not-looking.

    Yesterday on my way home I had builders (or similar) in a van come
    beside me, full their cake-holes with water and spray it all over me.
    Well, I don't mind a little rain or a refreshing shower, but not being
    a cat I don't really want to wash in spit. The funny thing is it took
    them two attempts to hit me!

    I noted the registration number, but inadvertently lost the record
    before getting home.

    :-(

    Ho hum. I refuse to sink to their level. Still annoying, though. Why
    on earth do "people" do this kind of thing?

    PhilD

    --
    <><

  2. That's pretty disgusting.

    And assault.

  3. Quoted message said:

    Ho hum. I refuse to sink to their level. Still annoying, though. Why
    on earth do "people" do this kind of thing?

    Dunno, but if you see the van parked up somewhere, it is not illegal to let
    their tyres down. Suggest using a pump hose and coming back to take them
    off a few minutes later.

  4. That's assault, and extremely unpleasant.

  5. "Mark Thompson"
    <pleasegivegenerously@warmmail*_turn_up_the_heat_to_reply*.com> wrote in
    message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Ho hum. I refuse to sink to their level. Still annoying, though. Why
    on earth do "people" do this kind of thing?

    Dunno, but if you see the van parked up somewhere, it is not illegal to
    let
    their tyres down. Suggest using a pump hose and coming back to take them
    off a few minutes later.

    Iain Banks suggests a bit of a match, folded in two, put under the valve
    cap.

    cheers,
    clive

  6. That's pretty disgusting.

    And assault.

  7. in message <[email hidden]>, Mark
    Thompson

    ('pleasegivegenerously@warmmail*_turn_up_the_heat_to_reply*.com') said:
    Quoted message said:

    Ho hum. I refuse to sink to their level. Still annoying, though.
    Why on earth do "people" do this kind of thing?

    Dunno, but if you see the van parked up somewhere, it is not illegal to
    let
    their tyres down. Suggest using a pump hose and coming back to take
    them off a few minutes later.

    We've had this suggestion repeatedly, lately. It seems to me a really bad
    idea, highly likely to lead to a violent confrontation and with you in
    the wrong. I would /strongly/ advise against any retaliation, other than
    via the police.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    ;; Semper in faecibus sumus, sole profundum variat.

  8. PhilD said:

    Like many here I've been on the receiving end of various motorist
    abuse/carelessness/simply-not-looking.

    Yesterday on my way home I had builders (or similar) in a van come
    beside me, full their cake-holes with water and spray it all over me.
    Well, I don't mind a little rain or a refreshing shower, but not being
    a cat I don't really want to wash in spit. The funny thing is it took
    them two attempts to hit me!

    I noted the registration number, but inadvertently lost the record
    before getting home.

    :-(

    Ho hum. I refuse to sink to their level. Still annoying, though. Why
    on earth do "people" do this kind of thing?

    PhilD

    --
    <><

    Too late for you now of course, but a water bottle filled with a nice
    strong solution of Head 'n Shoulders is quite a neat defence against
    those who match speed with you and try it on.

    If you've never got Head 'n Shoulders in your eyes, you should try it
    (once) for the experience. Almost as good as Mace, and will always work
    in your favour in court, ie:

    Your Opponent: He assaulted me M'lud!
    Mlud: What with?
    Your Opponent: Erm... shampoo M'lud.

    Just don't confuse the H&S bottle with your regular water bottle :-p

    --
    Chris

  9. PhilD said:

    Ho hum. I refuse to sink to their level. Still annoying, though. Why
    on earth do "people" do this kind of thing?

    As I asserted in the recent "[censored]" thread this kind of thing is
    fairly common. Something like this, or worse, happens to me about once
    every 2 months on average; a lot more if you count aggressive shouting
    from the passengers of overtaking cars. It's not personal; they do it
    because you are a vulnerable target and they are in a position of
    strength.

    If you are in a position to report it, do so then forget about it. If
    you're not then just forget about it.

    --
    Dave...

  10. Quoted message said:

    Something like this, or worse, happens to me about once
    every 2 months on average; a lot more if you count aggressive shouting
    from the passengers of overtaking cars.

    Cripes, tell me where you live so I can avoid it

  11. "PhilD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Like many here I've been on the receiving end of various motorist
    abuse/carelessness/simply-not-looking.

    Yesterday on my way home I had builders (or similar) in a van come
    beside me, full their cake-holes with water and spray it all over me.
    Well, I don't mind a little rain or a refreshing shower, but not being
    a cat I don't really want to wash in spit. The funny thing is it took
    them two attempts to hit me!

    I noted the registration number, but inadvertently lost the record
    before getting home.

    Sorry to hear this.

    I agree that this was "assault".

    Sadly, I think the Police would require an independent witness before they
    did much more than express their sympathy, which is of course impractical.

  12. Clive George said:

    "Mark Thompson"
    <pleasegivegenerously@warmmail*_turn_up_the_heat_to_reply*.com> wrote in
    message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Ho hum. I refuse to sink to their level. Still annoying, though. Why
    on earth do "people" do this kind of thing?

    Dunno, but if you see the van parked up somewhere, it is not illegal to
    let
    their tyres down. Suggest using a pump hose and coming back to take them
    off a few minutes later.

    Iain Banks suggests a bit of a match, folded in two, put under the valve
    cap.

    indeed, I have personal experience of that technique from the /very/
    dim and distant past. The question of legality of tire deflation crops
    up on u.l.m from time to time and most convincing opinions are that it
    is criminal damage

    best wishes
    james

  13. Quoted message said:

    indeed, I have personal experience of that technique from the /very/
    dim and distant past. The question of legality of tire deflation crops
    up on u.l.m from time to time and most convincing opinions are that it
    is criminal damage

    Car jack and bricks instead?

    ...d

  14. PhilD said:

    Ho hum. I refuse to sink to their level. Still annoying, though. Why
    on earth do "people" do this kind of thing?

    I knew someone in Edinburgh who had this done to him, but who caught the
    perpetrators at the lights. He smiled sweetly at the driver, then leaned
    in through the window and poured the contents of his water bottle onto the
    guy's crotch.

    Definately _not_ recommended behaviour, but damned funny!

    Jon

  15. "Jon Senior" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    PhilD said:

    Ho hum. I refuse to sink to their level. Still annoying, though. Why
    on earth do "people" do this kind of thing?

    I knew someone in Edinburgh who had this done to him, but who caught the
    perpetrators at the lights. He smiled sweetly at the driver, then leaned
    in through the window and poured the contents of his water bottle onto the
    guy's crotch.

    Definately _not_ recommended behaviour, but damned funny!

    Jon

    I am told - I don't endorse this - that if you're really skillful, you could
    grab the guy's car keys and throw them down a drain.

    Let's hope that the motorist keeps his house keys on the same ring.

  16. Heracles Pollux said:


    I am told - I don't endorse this - that if you're really skillful, you could
    grab the guy's car keys and throw them down a drain.

    I managed this once, and told the idiot who cut me up he could collect
    them from the local cop shop.
    I then reported him when I handed the keys over to an amused desk clerk.

    tt

  17. Quoted message said:

    indeed, I have personal experience of that technique from the /very/
    dim and distant past. The question of legality of tire deflation
    crops up on u.l.m from time to time and most convincing opinions are
    that it is criminal damage

    They are probably wrong:

    <http://tinyurl.com/nvwkw> [1]

    Ok, not this country but it was kinda funny.

    Seriously tho, a while ago there were some peeps deflating car tyres as
    some sort of environmental protest thingy. Was a quote from police that it
    wasn't illegal so not much that could be done. All AFAICR thobut.

    [1] <http://66.249.93.104/search?
    q=cache:zvhmFIoxs7MJ:www.deccanherald.com/deccanherald/mar22006/city.asp+%
    22deflating+car+tyres%22&hl=en&gl=uk&ct=clnk&cd=2>

  18. "Mark Thompson"
    <pleasegivegenerously@warmmail*_turn_up_the_heat_to_reply*.com> wrote in
    message news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Ho hum. I refuse to sink to their level. Still annoying, though. Why
    on earth do "people" do this kind of thing?

    Dunno, but if you see the van parked up somewhere, it is not illegal to
    let
    their tyres down. Suggest using a pump hose and coming back to take them
    off a few minutes later.

    If the tyre is left in a fully deflated state for any length of time then
    damage may occur to the internal plys of the sidewall (for low-profile tyres
    this can be instant, but unlikely that a van will have these tyres). Then
    criminal damage would have been committed and ('criminal' is a big clue)
    that _is_ illegal.

  19. "Chris Smith" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    PhilD said:

    Like many here I've been on the receiving end of various motorist
    abuse/carelessness/simply-not-looking.

    Yesterday on my way home I had builders (or similar) in a van come
    beside me, full their cake-holes with water and spray it all over me.
    Well, I don't mind a little rain or a refreshing shower, but not being
    a cat I don't really want to wash in spit. The funny thing is it took
    them two attempts to hit me!

    I noted the registration number, but inadvertently lost the record
    before getting home.

    :-(

    Ho hum. I refuse to sink to their level. Still annoying, though. Why
    on earth do "people" do this kind of thing?

    PhilD

    --
    <><

    Too late for you now of course, but a water bottle filled with a nice
    strong solution of Head 'n Shoulders is quite a neat defence against those
    who match speed with you and try it on.

    If you've never got Head 'n Shoulders in your eyes, you should try it
    (once) for the experience. Almost as good as Mace, and will always work in
    your favour in court, ie:

    Your Opponent: He assaulted me M'lud!
    Mlud: What with?
    Your Opponent: Erm... shampoo M'lud.


    No, no, no!

    The highly hypothetical conversation continues with m'lud asking why you're
    carrying shampoo solution in a drinking bottle, and, in the absense of a
    bottle of clean water to rinse with and a towel (to justify the contention
    that you're just into alfresco personal care) then you're going armed.

  20. Jon Senior <[email hidden]> wrote:
    | On Thu, 04 May 2006 00:25:31 -0700, PhilD wrote:
    | > Ho hum. I refuse to sink to their level. Still annoying, though. Why
    | > on earth do "people" do this kind of thing?
    |
    | I knew someone in Edinburgh who had this done to him, but who caught the
    | perpetrators at the lights. He smiled sweetly at the driver, then leaned
    | in through the window and poured the contents of his water bottle onto the
    | guy's crotch.

    It happened to me at traffic lights in Summertown in North Oxford the
    last time we had a hot day -- in June about ten years ago I suppose --
    and I caught up with them about two miles later half way down St Giles
    when they were caught in the gridlock that is central Oxford.

    Unfortunately, they were in a lorry cab with windows that started well
    above my head so I had to content myself with waving at them as I passed.

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