new h*****t site

Richard Burton said:

cyclehelmets.orgcyclehelmets.orgOpen ↗

I wonder if BHIT (not noted for honesty* tm) will be referencing this one?

Shame some of the links are broken. I made up my own mind on h*****s a long time ago (I find them
choking, hot, and I'm far more concerned about being mown down by some idiot doing 70mph while
chatting on his mobile or crushed by an truck, than I am about falling off at the sort of speeds
helmets might be useful for), but I'm slightly suspicious that I can't find out quite who is behind
the site. This doesn't help its credibility much.

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I'm slightly suspicious that I can't find out quite who is behind the site. This doesn't help its
credibility much.

My thoughts exactly.

Cheers, helen s

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"Zog The Undeniable" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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Richard Burton said:

cyclehelmets.orgcyclehelmets.orgOpen ↗

I wonder if BHIT (not noted for honesty* tm) will be referencing this

one?

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Shame some of the links are broken. I made up my own mind on h*****s a long time ago (I find them
choking, hot, and I'm far more concerned about being mown down by some idiot doing 70mph while
chatting on his mobile or crushed by an truck, than I am about falling off at the sort of speeds
helmets might be useful for), but I'm slightly suspicious that I can't find out quite who is
behind the site. This doesn't help its credibility much.

Interesting point, though to be fair they do say "cyclehelmets.org is the website of an
international coalition of people with a special interest in cycling and cycle helmets. The
coalition includes doctors, cycling safety experts, statisticians and people with professional
involvement in helmet design and performance. All those concerned are themselves cyclists." and "The
cyclehelmets.org coalition may be contacted at info@ cyclehelmets.org." so you could ask them for
clarification if you felt like it.

And as far as the broken links go "Please note: It will be some time before the information on this
site is as comprehensive as we wish it to be. Do come back from time to time to see what's new."

"wafflyDIRTYcatLITTERhcsBOX" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

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Interesting point, though to be fair they do say "cyclehelmets.org is the website of an
international coalition of people with a special interest

in

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cycling and cycle helmets. The coalition includes doctors, cycling safety experts, statisticians
and people with professional involvement in helmet design and performance. All those concerned
are themselves cyclists."

and

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"The cyclehelmets.org coalition may be contacted at info@

cyclehelmets.org."

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so you could ask them for clarification if you felt like it.

But that actually means nothing - it could be anyone with a "fake" email

setup

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in that it could be [email hidden], so to speak. I'm not saying that

that

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is what is happening, but the site lacks transparency, so why should it be trusted?

Cheers, helen s

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I must be bored

Domain ID😄56868925-LROR Domain Name:CYCLEHELMETS.ORG Created On:02-Feb-2001 16:45:29 UTC Last
Updated On:21-Jun-2003 18:02:28 UTC Expiration Date:02-Feb-2013 16:45:29 UTC Sponsoring
Registrar:R52-LROR Status:OK Registrant ID:52-C Registrant Name:SEE SPONSORING REGISTRAR Registrant
Street1:Whois Server:whois.melbourneit.com

which leads to hoIs Result For cyclehelmets.org @ whois.melbourneit.com Domain Name cyclehelmets.org
Creation Date 2001-02-03 Registration Date 2001-02-03 Expiry Date 2013-02-03 Organisation Name
Richard Keatinge

google said name and we get

keatinge.demon.co.ukrichard.htmOpen ↗

read cv we get Cycle helmets. Richard Keatinge. Br med J (letter) 1994;309:541.

Protection offered by cycle helmets. Richard Keatinge, Ruth Parry. Br med J (letter) 1994;309:1441.

Cycle helmets: cars are the problem. Br med J (letter) 1997:312;

have a look on the home page to

boring its not HELMETS R US 🙂

On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 20:30:38 +0100 someone who may be Zog The Undeniable <[email hidden]> wrote this:-

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I'm slightly suspicious that I can't find out quite who is behind the site.

This from somebody who claims that they are called Zog The Undeniable and who claims that their
e-mail address is [email hidden]. Perhaps we should be more suspicious of you.

The site has been created by some of the people who participate in the an e-mail discussion group.

The site has been put together by John Franklin with information from several members of the group
and, as it says, is still being developed.

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keys, unless the UK government prevents me using the RIP Act 2000.

David Hansen said:

On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 20:30:38 +0100 someone who may be Zog The Undeniable <[email hidden]>
wrote this:-

Quoted message said:

I'm slightly suspicious that I can't find out quite who is behind the site.

This from somebody who claims that they are called Zog The Undeniable and who claims that their
e-mail address is [email hidden]. Perhaps we should be more suspicious of you.

The site has been created by some of the people who participate in the an e-mail discussion group.

The site has been put together by John Franklin with information from several members of the group
and, as it says, is still being developed.

Reading the site I worked out that John Franklin was involved. It would be useful if you're in
communication with that mailing list, if the site was a little more forthcoming about who was behind
it and what their qualifications were - it would make the site more credible.

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[email hidden] (Simon Brooke) jasmine.org.uk~simonOpen ↗

;; Women are from Venus. Men are from Mars. Lusers are from Uranus.

David Hansen said:

This from somebody who claims that they are called Zog The Undeniable and who claims that their
e-mail address is [email hidden]. Perhaps we should be more suspicious of you.

Span protection and potential future employer protection, sorry.

On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 19:39:28 +0100 someone who may be Zog The Undeniable <[email hidden]> wrote this:-

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

This from somebody who claims that they are called Zog The Undeniable and who claims that their
e-mail address is [email hidden]. Perhaps we should be more suspicious of you.

Span protection and potential future employer protection, sorry.

Nice try, but to use your own words slightly suspicious. Spam protection can be ac hived in other
ways. Future employers can be guarded against with a less romantic assumed name.

Anyway, you fail to answer the point I made. If you wish for this "protection" why are you not
prepared to allow the authors of this web site the same "protection"?

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David Hansen, Edinburgh | PGP email preferred-key number F566DA0E I will always explain revoked
keys, unless the UK government prevents me using the RIP Act 2000.

David Hansen said:

Nice try, but to use your own words slightly suspicious. Spam protection can be ac hived in other
ways. Future employers can be guarded against with a less romantic assumed name.

Ahhh now, come on, come on, will you, isn't a darling name, to be sure?

Simon, doesn't much go for assumed names but grins at that one.

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