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  1. O.K. I tried to idle my Coker. I'm finding it very difficult.

    I idle my 20" with the right pedal down, going pack and forth between
    "bottom dead center".

    Is this the way to idle a Coker, or should you go back and forth
    between the cranks parallel to the ground.

    Thanks.

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  2. Either way works, though I personally can only do the normal idle, not
    the circus idle. The longer the cranks, the easier Coker idling is.
    However, the main thing is: practice, practice, practice. 🙄

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  3. Put on the longest cranks you can find if you want to make it noticably
    easier.

    The technique that I use for coker idling is different than the one I
    use to idle a normal uni. With a normal uni it is very easy to keep the
    wheel moving back and forth in about 25% of the circumference. Often
    times I probably use 10%. On the coker I have to use around 35%.

    Basically push the wheel backwards and then as soon as your cranks pass
    vertical start slowing the wheel. It will take some time to bring to a
    full stop. Be sure not to stop the wheel in a position where you will
    have no leverage for the next downstroke. That is, make sure you will
    be able to get enough power to stop the wheel then reverse it. Coker
    idling looks a lot slower.

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  4. It;s a change of emphasis. On a 20, you can dictate the speed of the
    idle. You can idle gently or aggressively, fast or slow, within
    certain broad limits.

    On a larger wheel, and especially a Coker, it is more like riding from
    one position to another, pausing, and riding back.

    The idle has two "poles":

    - Wheel in front, leaning backwards
    - Wheel behind, leaning forwards

    The trick is to feel the moment when the unicycle has started to fall
    backwards or forwards, and then ride at the right speed to correct the
    balance, until you reach the other "pole".

    If you try too hard to dictate to the Coker, you will give it too much
    momentum, and it will be difficult to stop it at the other end of the
    pendulum swing.

    Look at a distant object.

    Relax.

    Don't hold the seat.

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  5. Obieone the truth speaks here. Try starting with a super idle (full
    revloutions of the wheel) to get the feel of changing directions.
    S-L-O-W-L-Y. Keep your weight on the seat. I have not tried circus idle
    but can idle if I am slow and use alot of the tire revolution. This
    requires a big area.

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  6. It also helps to have maximum air pressure in the tyre.

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  7. U-Turn said:

    Either way works, though I personally can only do the normal idle, not
    the circus idle. The longer the cranks, the easier Coker idling is.
    However, the main thing is: practice, practice, practice. 🙄

    What's a circus idle?

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  8. kokomojuggler said:

    What's a circus idle?

    The cranks do not cross the bottom most position. They stay in a
    relatively horizontal position. The motion in circus idle is done by
    varying the cranks about the 3 and 9 o'clock positions. Regular idling
    is done by varying the cranks about the 6 and 12 o'clock positions.

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  9. Do it like 'this' (http://tinyurl.com/zovxy)

    I find you use your top foot to control the idle more than on a normal
    sized uni.

    Joe

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  10. joemarshall said:

    Do it like 'this' (http://tinyurl.com/zovxy)

    Wow, I'd never have thought that idling up an almost vertical wall
    would make things easier 😄

    STM

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  11. I can idle a Coker if the cranks are long enough. The TCUC club Coker
    has six-inch cranks on it, and I can idle it one-footed (only with my
    right foot though) and have managed to mount into one-footed idle just
    to prove that I could do it. Idling a Coker with shorter cranks in any
    way is very difficult for me.

    Idling a 24" uni is like, "Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm."

    Idling a Coker is like, "URGGHH!! URGGHH!! URGGHH!! URGGHH!!"

    That's the only way I can describe it myself.

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  12. I haven't tried a Coker yet but, I found the difficulty increased
    significantly trying to idle on my 29er (compared to my 24). What
    worked for me was tightening up the pedal strokes on the 29er to
    reduce, or more accurately arrest, the greater momentum of the wheel.
    On my 24 I tend to idle with my foot going from about the 8 o'clock
    position to the 4 o'clock position, 8 to 4, 8 to 4. On the 29er I've
    found it easier to go from about 7 to 5, 7 to 5. Maybe the reason I
    do it this way is because I've always tried to keep the rhythm of the
    idle about the same. Maybe I'll try slowing it down a bit as others
    here have suggested.

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  13. Funny, I’ve only ridden a coker for maybe ten minutes, and I could
    idle and ride backward first try, no problem. It did feel very akward,
    but I could still do it, although a little wobbly. It had 150’s I
    think. The trick I guess is to hold yourself back, be ready for the
    transition from forward to backward idle, so it doesn’t through
    you off.

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  14. I had a coker for a while, until evan took it back. It had 110 cranks
    and I couldn't idle it at all. I would do the backwards rev and the
    short cranks just made it slip out right away. I couldn't put enough
    force on it to make it go forwards again. So I guess what everyone says
    about long cranks is right.

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