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Tom Crispin said:
I don't know if these sorry features have been posted here before.
The first one is mostly sound. (I'll remain quiet on the obvious). Not
as nicely laid out and presented as some I have seen...Quoted message said:
"I was a numpty and fell off my bike whilst wearing a helmet".
Moral: "Don't be a numpty?" er.. not quite the conclusions they came
to. Maybe that bang on the head did something or maybe they sell
helmets.....d
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Tom Crispin said:
I don't know if these sorry features have been posted here before.
Given that Halfords sell helmets and they include links to their helmet
sales page, I think a letter to the ASA is called for.--
Tony"The best way I know of to win an argument is to start by being in the
right."
- Lord Hailsham -
On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 23:23:23 +0100, Tony Raven <[email hidden]>
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
Given that Halfords sell helmets and they include links to their helmet
sales page, I think a letter to the ASA is called for.Perhaps they'll be persuaded to change this:
"One morning, I was cycling at full pelt along a bus lane and pulled
out to overtake a car that was illegally parked. I didn't notice that
its owner was still inside. By the time she opened the door, it was
too late for me to brake or swerve. I slammed into the door, flew over
my handlebars and bounced off a stationary car in the lane to my
right, coming to a somewhat inelegant landing on the uneven tarmac."My recollection of events is understandably blurry. But my one
over-riding memory was thinking, as the back of my head bounced on the
road, "That would really have hurt if I wasn't wearing a helmet.""In fact, other than a few bruised ribs, some grazes and a bent front
wheel, no major damage was done at all. Some kind drivers and a
shopkeeper helped me to the roadside and dragged my scuffed and
twisted bike onto the pavement for me. As I gradually regained my
breath and sipped at the obligatory cup of tea, I speculated as to
what might have happened had I not been wearing a helmet.To this:
"One morning, I was cycling at full pelt along a bus lane and pulled
out to overtake a car that was illegally parked. I didn't notice that
its owner was still inside. By the time she opened the door, I was
passing the vehicle with plenty of space to spare. I thanked my lucky
stars that I had the foresight to take a National Standards Training
course which taught me to pass any parked car with a door's width."My recollection of events is still sharp. But my one over-riding
memory was thinking, as I passed safely by, "That would really have
hurt if I hadn't had the training.""I was still mildly shaken at what could have been when I arrived at
work and this gave me an excuse for the obligatory cup of tea. I
speculated as to what might have happened had I not had the National
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Tom Crispin said:
To this:"One morning, I was cycling at full pelt along a bus lane and pulled
out to overtake a car that was illegally parked. I didn't notice that
its owner was still inside. By the time she opened the door, I was
passing the vehicle with plenty of space to spare. I thanked my lucky
stars that I had the foresight to take a National Standards Training
course which taught me to pass any parked car with a door's width."My recollection of events is still sharp. But my one over-riding
memory was thinking, as I passed safely by, "That would really have
hurt if I hadn't had the training.""I was still mildly shaken at what could have been when I arrived at
work and this gave me an excuse for the obligatory cup of tea. I
speculated as to what might have happened had I not had the National
Standards training.Ah but he was probably cycling in a cycle facility the Local Authority
had thoughtfully provided such as this one in Cambridge:
http://www.camcycle.org.uk/newsletters/37/images/cover.jpg--
Tony"The best way I know of to win an argument is to start by being in the
right."
- Lord Hailsham -
Tom Crispin said:
I don't know if these sorry features have been posted here before.
Ah yes, Halfords, that well-known 'safety conscious' purveyor of speed
camera evasion equipment... -
Tony Raven said:
Ah but he was probably cycling in a cycle facility the Local
Authority had thoughtfully provided such as this one in Cambridge:
http://www.camcycle.org.uk/newsletters/37/images/cover.jpgI think this is possibly the most eloquent photograph for pointing
out the problem:http://www.bikexprt.com/massfacil/cambridge/program/images/CentSqDeath.jpg
(In context,
http://www.bikexprt.com/massfacil/cambridge/doorzone/laird1.htm).Brendan
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Brendan Halpin said:
I think this is possibly the most eloquent photograph for pointing
out the problem:Oh no, that's awful.
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Would I be cynical if I thought that the photo used on the latter of
the two linked pages was perhaps a rather "leading" image to use?
Vulnerable, skinny-looking cyclist surrounded by huge, scary motor
vehicles - I mean just think what might happen if he didn't have that
nice safe helmet on!They say sex sells; well when it comes to cycle helmets, it appears
that simple use of perspective sells. -
Francis Barton said:
Would I be cynical if I thought that the photo used on the latter of
the two linked pages was perhaps a rather "leading" image to use?
Vulnerable, skinny-looking cyclist surrounded by huge, scary motor
vehicles - I mean just think what might happen if he didn't have that
nice safe helmet on!Not cynical, accurate. It isn't so much what you see but how you see
it. I presume you have looked at the 'factsheet' produced
collaboratively and seen the reasoning behind use of certain pictures.
Now imagine using the Halfords style of picture (but of a child) on the
front cover instead of the existing shot - would that really inspire
confidence?The training picture is the only one which includes a car, and that is
deliberately subdued behind a cyclist,Quoted message said:
They say sex sells; well when it comes to cycle helmets, it appears
that simple use of perspective sells.It is perception - if cycling is dangerous I need safety gear. If I
want to sell safety gear I need to make cycling look dangerous....d
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David Martin said:
The training picture is the only one which includes a car, and that is
deliberately subdued behind a cyclist,Not deliberate - it was a fluke!
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