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  1. Considering how long Moses lived, and life expectancy in his time, I would
    say Moses must have ate a good diet.

    Any research done to tell us what Moses ate?

    Mel, just wondering...

  2. M. Schwartz said:

    Considering how long Moses lived, and life expectancy in his time, I would
    say Moses must have ate a good diet.

    Any research done to tell us what Moses ate?

    low carb manna

  3. Dr Chaos <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    M. Schwartz said:

    Considering how long Moses lived, and life expectancy in his time, I would
    say Moses must have ate a good diet.

    Any research done to tell us what Moses ate?

    low carb manna

    Less than 2 lbs of low-fat manna per day :-)

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
    http://www.heartmdphd.com

  4. Dr Chaos said:
    M. Schwartz said:

    Considering how long Moses lived, and life expectancy in his time, I would
    say Moses must have ate a good diet.

    Any research done to tell us what Moses ate?

    low carb manna

    Quite the contrary, I think his diet must have been high in carbohydrates
    like fruit, rice, wheat, unleavened bread, veggies and legumes.

    Speculation has it that his lipid profile was excellent.

  5. "M. Schwartz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Dr Chaos said:

    On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 19:51:35 -0400, M. Schwartz <[email hidden]>


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    Considering how long Moses lived, and life expectancy in his time, I


    would

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    say Moses must have ate a good diet.

    Milk and Honey

  6. Paul E. Lehmann said:


    "M. Schwartz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Dr Chaos said:

    On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 19:51:35 -0400, M. Schwartz <[email hidden]>


    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Considering how long Moses lived, and life expectancy in his time, I


    would

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    > say Moses must have ate a good diet.
    >

    Milk and Honey

    Paul, he must have ate more than milk and honey. What about fruit, rice,
    wheat, matzoh, vegetables, and legumes?

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    "M. Schwartz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Dr Chaos said:

    On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 19:51:35 -0400, M. Schwartz <[email hidden]>


    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Considering how long Moses lived, and life expectancy in his time, I


    would

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > say Moses must have ate a good diet.
    >

    Milk and Honey

    I read a book once called Jews, God and History. Very interesting. It
    makes a credible argument for there being two Moses's. As far as what one
    or the other or both ate.... fish, wine and very few cows. After all, no
    one sacrificed cows - it was always sheep and the occasional offspring so we
    can assume that cows were not valued to any great degree. Unlevened bread
    was a hot seller but I suspect it was not made from overly processed
    grains. I am unsure from a geographical point of view, which grains might
    have been in ample supply as agriculture wasn't an industry supporting the
    economy at that time (it is hard to manage crops when one is roaming for
    years on end). Oh, an pork was not a part of their diet or was shellfish.
    The avoidance of those meats was actually due to a higher propensity of
    becoming ill which is actually true, expecially without GE ranges and ovens
    with preset temperatures. Obviously, if there was wine, there were grapes
    but I am struggling to determine what other fruits and veggies were
    available. Surely there were some.

    The Lepers in those days probably had syphillus and not Hansen's disease.
    Adlutery was defined as a man having intercourse with another man's wife.
    The contamination of blood lines was the ultimate sin in a nomadic society
    where no one was really from 'anywhere'. Rather, they were decendents of a
    blood line. That's why we are bored silly at Easter Week masses where they
    go through the who begat who routine for seemingly hours on end.

    I do know that Moses and his comrades did not hang out at bars drinking low
    carb beer and eating nacho's with cheese and fried chicken wings. They
    almost never at anywhere where they were asked, "Would you like fries with
    that?" or "Did you want to supersize your coke for 39 cents more?"

    j

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  8. M. Schwartz said:

    Considering how long Moses lived, and life expectancy in his time, I would
    say Moses must have ate a good diet.

    Any research done to tell us what Moses ate?

    Mel, just wondering...

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  9. Julianne said:


    "Paul E. Lehmann" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "M. Schwartz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 01:13:08 +0000 (UTC), Dr Chaos wrote:

    > On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 19:51:35 -0400, M. Schwartz <[email hidden]>


    Quoted message said:

    >> Considering how long Moses lived, and life expectancy in his time, I


    would

    Quoted message said:

    >> say Moses must have ate a good diet.
    >>

    Milk and Honey

    I read a book once called Jews, God and History. Very interesting. It
    makes a credible argument for there being two Moses's. As far as what one
    or the other or both ate.... fish, wine and very few cows. After all, no
    one sacrificed cows - it was always sheep and the occasional offspring so we
    can assume that cows were not valued to any great degree. Unlevened bread
    was a hot seller but I suspect it was not made from overly processed
    grains. I am unsure from a geographical point of view, which grains might
    have been in ample supply as agriculture wasn't an industry supporting the
    economy at that time (it is hard to manage crops when one is roaming for
    years on end). Oh, an pork was not a part of their diet or was shellfish.
    The avoidance of those meats was actually due to a higher propensity of
    becoming ill which is actually true, expecially without GE ranges and ovens
    with preset temperatures. Obviously, if there was wine, there were grapes
    but I am struggling to determine what other fruits and veggies were
    available. Surely there were some.

    The Lepers in those days probably had syphillus and not Hansen's disease.
    Adlutery was defined as a man having intercourse with another man's wife.
    The contamination of blood lines was the ultimate sin in a nomadic society
    where no one was really from 'anywhere'. Rather, they were decendents of a
    blood line. That's why we are bored silly at Easter Week masses where they
    go through the who begat who routine for seemingly hours on end.

    I do know that Moses and his comrades did not hang out at bars drinking low
    carb beer and eating nacho's with cheese and fried chicken wings. They
    almost never at anywhere where they were asked, "Would you like fries with
    that?" or "Did you want to supersize your coke for 39 cents more?"

    j

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    I think you hit upon something quite relevant to his longevity: Exercise!
    Aside from a diet obviously devoid of trans fat, he was always walking,
    walking, and more walking. All that walking must have contributed to an
    excellent HDL level and keeping the body slim.

    Two Moses's? Never heard that.

    Numbers 21:16 And from thence they went to Beer: that is the well whereof
    the Lord spoke unto Moses, Gather the people together, and I will give them
    water.

  10. In article <r7Uhb.31363$k74.30985@lakeread05>,

    Julianne said:

    fish, wine and very few cows. After all, no
    one sacrificed cows - it was always sheep and the occasional offspring so we
    can assume that cows were not valued to any great degree. Unlevened bread
    was a hot seller but I suspect it was not made from overly processed
    grains. I am unsure from a geographical point of view, which grains might
    have been in ample supply as agriculture wasn't an industry supporting the
    economy at that time (it is hard to manage crops when one is roaming for
    years on end). Oh, an pork was not a part of their diet or was shellfish.
    The avoidance of those meats was actually due to a higher propensity of
    becoming ill which is actually true, expecially without GE ranges and ovens
    with preset temperatures.

    Consider also that the meats of their day were far different beasts than
    todays inbred, feedlot, artificially growth stimulated, mass produced
    poultry, fish, mutton, beef and pork.

    As an aside, I find the religious "rules" of Fish Friday and such
    fascinating. It's believed to have much more to do with food safety than
    religious ideals.

  11. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    Considering how long Moses lived, and life expectancy in his time, I would
    say Moses must have ate a good diet.

    Any research done to tell us what Moses ate?


    Several scholars have pointed out that in those days a long life wase
    considered proof of holiness. Biographers didn't hesitate to exaggerate
    their subject's age to make that point :-).

    --
    Where ARE those Iraqi WMDs?

  12. Two drinks a day and 3 fish oil capsules - plus plenty of oatmeal. He
    probably got 2 plus hours of exercise daily.

    "M. Schwartz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Considering how long Moses lived, and life expectancy in his time, I would
    say Moses must have ate a good diet.

    Any research done to tell us what Moses ate?

    Mel, just wondering...

  13. "M. Schwartz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Paul E. Lehmann said:


    "M. Schwartz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 01:13:08 +0000 (UTC), Dr Chaos wrote:

    > On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 19:51:35 -0400, M. Schwartz <[email hidden]>


    Quoted message said:

    >> Considering how long Moses lived, and life expectancy in his time, I


    would

    Quoted message said:

    >> say Moses must have ate a good diet.
    >>

    Milk and Honey

    Paul, he must have ate more than milk and honey. What about fruit, rice,
    wheat, matzoh, vegetables, and legumes?

    I think it would be safe to say that Moses found the "Juice of the Grape" to
    be a staple.
    It was safer than drinking contaminated water.

  14. Larry Blanchard said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    Considering how long Moses lived, and life expectancy in his time, I would
    say Moses must have ate a good diet.

    Any research done to tell us what Moses ate?


    Several scholars have pointed out that in those days a long life wase
    considered proof of holiness. Biographers didn't hesitate to exaggerate
    their subject's age to make that point :-).

    Wait a minute. I know Moses lived to a very old age because I saw the
    movie.

    ;-)

  15. Brad Sheppard said:

    Two drinks a day and 3 fish oil capsules - plus plenty of oatmeal. He
    probably got 2 plus hours of exercise daily.

    Hold on here Brad. They didn't have fish oil capsules in those days.
    Oatmeal? Nah, they didn't have any of those packaged cereals way back then.

    Jeez, you sure go around pushing alcohol. You own a winery or something?
    :-)

    Mel

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    "M. Schwartz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Considering how long Moses lived, and life expectancy in his time, I would
    say Moses must have ate a good diet.

    Any research done to tell us what Moses ate?

    Mel, just wondering...

  16. Paul E. Lehmann said:


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    Paul E. Lehmann said:


    "M. Schwartz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    > On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 01:13:08 +0000 (UTC), Dr Chaos wrote:
    >
    >> On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 19:51:35 -0400, M. Schwartz <[email hidden]>
    wrote:
    >>> Considering how long Moses lived, and life expectancy in his time, I
    would
    >>> say Moses must have ate a good diet.
    >>>

    Milk and Honey

    Paul, he must have ate more than milk and honey. What about fruit, rice,
    wheat, matzoh, vegetables, and legumes?

    I think it would be safe to say that Moses found the "Juice of the Grape" to
    be a staple.
    It was safer than drinking contaminated water.

    Ahh, but look here at Numbers 21:16

    Numbers 21:16 And from thence they went to Beer: that is the well whereof
    the Lord spoke unto Moses, Gather the people together, and I will give them
    water.

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    Julianne said:


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    "M. Schwartz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    > On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 01:13:08 +0000 (UTC), Dr Chaos wrote:
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    > > On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 19:51:35 -0400, M. Schwartz


    <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
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    wrote:
    > >> Considering how long Moses lived, and life expectancy in his time,


    I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
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    would
    > >> say Moses must have ate a good diet.
    > >>

    Milk and Honey

    I read a book once called Jews, God and History. Very interesting. It
    makes a credible argument for there being two Moses's. As far as what


    one

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    or the other or both ate.... fish, wine and very few cows. After all,


    no

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    one sacrificed cows - it was always sheep and the occasional offspring


    so we

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    can assume that cows were not valued to any great degree. Unlevened


    bread

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    was a hot seller but I suspect it was not made from overly processed
    grains. I am unsure from a geographical point of view, which grains


    might

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    have been in ample supply as agriculture wasn't an industry supporting


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    economy at that time (it is hard to manage crops when one is roaming for
    years on end). Oh, an pork was not a part of their diet or was


    shellfish.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    The avoidance of those meats was actually due to a higher propensity of
    becoming ill which is actually true, expecially without GE ranges and


    ovens

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    with preset temperatures. Obviously, if there was wine, there were


    grapes

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    but I am struggling to determine what other fruits and veggies were
    available. Surely there were some.

    The Lepers in those days probably had syphillus and not Hansen's


    disease.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Adlutery was defined as a man having intercourse with another man's


    wife.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    The contamination of blood lines was the ultimate sin in a nomadic


    society

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    where no one was really from 'anywhere'. Rather, they were decendents


    of a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    blood line. That's why we are bored silly at Easter Week masses where


    they

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    go through the who begat who routine for seemingly hours on end.

    I do know that Moses and his comrades did not hang out at bars drinking


    low

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    carb beer and eating nacho's with cheese and fried chicken wings. They
    almost never at anywhere where they were asked, "Would you like fries


    with

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    that?" or "Did you want to supersize your coke for 39 cents more?"

    j

    Quoted message said:

    I think you hit upon something quite relevant to his longevity: Exercise!
    Aside from a diet obviously devoid of trans fat, he was always walking,
    walking, and more walking. All that walking must have contributed to an
    excellent HDL level and keeping the body slim.

    Two Moses's? Never heard that.

    Numbers 21:16 And from thence they went to Beer: that is the well whereof
    the Lord spoke unto Moses, Gather the people together, and I will give


    them

    Quoted message said:

    water.

    Moses had beer? Kewl!

    Exercise was certainly critical but the holiness factor is important.
    Basically, the way you lived longer in those days was to avoid disease.
    Whether they were genetically blessed or just blessed is up for a spiritual
    debate that I am not up for but... all those prescriptions you have in your
    medicine cabinet were not available. A little heart disease, infection,
    diabetes took people out of the picture.

    I also wonder about the heat. Surely it was hotter than we can imagine and
    they dressed in a most unusual way. I can't imagine Moses et al walking
    around in gym shorts and tank tops trying to stay cool in the heat.

    j

  18. On 10 Oct 2003 22:57:51 -0700, [email hidden] (Dr. Andrew B.

    Chung said:
    Quoted message said:

    low carb manna

    Less than 2 lbs of low-fat manna per day :-)

    Doing 40 years of brisk walking in the desert he would have needed to
    eat more then that.

    --
    Ron Ritzman
    http://www.panix.com/~ritzlart
    Smart people can figure out my email address

  19. "M. Schwartz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Larry Blanchard said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    Considering how long Moses lived, and life expectancy in his time, I


    would

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    say Moses must have ate a good diet.

    Any research done to tell us what Moses ate?


    Several scholars have pointed out that in those days a long life wase
    considered proof of holiness. Biographers didn't hesitate to exaggerate
    their subject's age to make that point :-).

    Wait a minute. I know Moses lived to a very old age because I saw the
    movie.

    ;-)

    He must have eaten bread baked with human excrement as fuel - this was
    commanded by Jehovah - Ezekiel objected and Jehovah then allowed cow's
    manure instead.
    Ezekiel 4:10-17

  20. Paul E. Lehmann said:


    "M. Schwartz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Larry Blanchard said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...
    > Considering how long Moses lived, and life expectancy in his time, I


    would

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > say Moses must have ate a good diet.
    >
    > Any research done to tell us what Moses ate?
    >
    Several scholars have pointed out that in those days a long life wase
    considered proof of holiness. Biographers didn't hesitate to exaggerate
    their subject's age to make that point :-).

    Wait a minute. I know Moses lived to a very old age because I saw the
    movie.

    ;-)

    He must have eaten bread baked with human excrement as fuel - this was
    commanded by Jehovah - Ezekiel objected and Jehovah then allowed cow's
    manure instead.
    Ezekiel 4:10-17

    Speaking of Ezekiel, great bread! That Ezekiel 4:9 is the only bread I eat.

    No comment on that other stuff except -- UGH!

    Mel

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