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  1. I am a Type 2 diabetic on diet and exercise. My BG's are in the non
    diabetic territory. A couple weeks ago my GP recently put me on
    Altace 5 mg for kidney protection and Lipitor for high cholesterol.

    The problem is I am seeing a high pulse rate. I measure my BP at
    least twice daily. Since about the first of the year my systolic and
    diastolic are on a somewhat of a decline. The pulse was also on a
    rough decline. When a person looks at a graph the systolic decline is
    quite obvious. The diastolic and pulse are almost flat. That is
    until about the middle of August. The pulse went from about 80 range
    to now bouncing in the 90's. My GP put me on Altace on the end of
    August.

    I saw the GP couple weeks ago when I first observed the pulse bouncing
    in the low 80's. He said that was no big deal. I'm a tad concerned.

    Here is my BP stats for the past 30 days
    Systolic
    122 high
    105.8 Avg
    90 low
    Diastolic
    76 high
    65.9 avg
    53 low
    Pulse
    96 high
    82.4 avg
    73 low

    My question is
    Why isn't Altace keeping the pulse rate down?

    What is causing this increase in pulse rate?

    Should I ignore my GP and see a cardiologist?

  2. Quoted message said:

    I am a Type 2 diabetic on diet and exercise. My BG's are in the non
    diabetic territory. A couple weeks ago my GP recently put me on
    Altace 5 mg for kidney protection and Lipitor for high cholesterol.

    The problem is I am seeing a high pulse rate. I measure my BP at
    least twice daily. Since about the first of the year my systolic and
    diastolic are on a somewhat of a decline. The pulse was also on a
    rough decline. When a person looks at a graph the systolic decline is
    quite obvious. The diastolic and pulse are almost flat. That is
    until about the middle of August. The pulse went from about 80 range
    to now bouncing in the 90's. My GP put me on Altace on the end of
    August.

    I saw the GP couple weeks ago when I first observed the pulse bouncing
    in the low 80's. He said that was no big deal. I'm a tad concerned.

    Here is my BP stats for the past 30 days
    Systolic
    122 high
    105.8 Avg
    90 low
    Diastolic
    76 high
    65.9 avg
    53 low
    Pulse
    96 high
    82.4 avg
    73 low

    My question is
    Why isn't Altace keeping the pulse rate down?

    It is not supposed to.

    Quoted message said:


    What is causing this increase in pulse rate?

    Lowered blood pressure can do it.

    Quoted message said:


    Should I ignore my GP and see a cardiologist?

    You should inform your GP about the above.

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
    http://www.heartmdphd.com/

  3. MD/PhD said:
    Quoted message said:

    I am a Type 2 diabetic on diet and exercise. My BG's are in the non
    diabetic territory. A couple weeks ago my GP recently put me on
    Altace 5 mg for kidney protection and Lipitor for high cholesterol.

    The problem is I am seeing a high pulse rate. I measure my BP at
    least twice daily. Since about the first of the year my systolic and
    diastolic are on a somewhat of a decline. The pulse was also on a
    rough decline. When a person looks at a graph the systolic decline is
    quite obvious. The diastolic and pulse are almost flat. That is
    until about the middle of August. The pulse went from about 80 range
    to now bouncing in the 90's. My GP put me on Altace on the end of
    August.

    I saw the GP couple weeks ago when I first observed the pulse bouncing
    in the low 80's. He said that was no big deal. I'm a tad concerned.

    Here is my BP stats for the past 30 days
    Systolic
    122 high
    105.8 Avg
    90 low
    Diastolic
    76 high
    65.9 avg
    53 low
    Pulse
    96 high
    82.4 avg
    73 low

    My question is
    Why isn't Altace keeping the pulse rate down?

    It is not supposed to.

    Quoted message said:


    What is causing this increase in pulse rate?

    Lowered blood pressure can do it.

    Could you elaborate on this?

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:


    Should I ignore my GP and see a cardiologist?

    You should inform your GP about the above.

    I saw my GP a couple weeks ago, and showed him a graph of the rising
    pulse rate. He said don't worry about it, said pulse of 80's and 90's
    are normal. A 60 day graph shows systolic in a somewhat decline,
    diastolic in a erratic flat to decline pattern, and pulse in a rapid
    increase. Quite scary since one would expect all three to decline.

    As you can guess, on DM diagnosis, I also had hypertension. Cozaar
    really knocked it down. I no longer take cozaar, but have some left.
    Could I add cozaar to the altace?

    Thank you. The pulse worry's me.

  4. Quoted message said:
    MD/PhD said:
    Quoted message said:

    I am a Type 2 diabetic on diet and exercise. My BG's are in the non
    diabetic territory. A couple weeks ago my GP recently put me on
    Altace 5 mg for kidney protection and Lipitor for high cholesterol.

    The problem is I am seeing a high pulse rate. I measure my BP at
    least twice daily. Since about the first of the year my systolic and
    diastolic are on a somewhat of a decline. The pulse was also on a
    rough decline. When a person looks at a graph the systolic decline is
    quite obvious. The diastolic and pulse are almost flat. That is
    until about the middle of August. The pulse went from about 80 range
    to now bouncing in the 90's. My GP put me on Altace on the end of
    August.

    I saw the GP couple weeks ago when I first observed the pulse bouncing
    in the low 80's. He said that was no big deal. I'm a tad concerned.

    Here is my BP stats for the past 30 days
    Systolic
    122 high
    105.8 Avg
    90 low
    Diastolic
    76 high
    65.9 avg
    53 low
    Pulse
    96 high
    82.4 avg
    73 low

    My question is
    Why isn't Altace keeping the pulse rate down?

    It is not supposed to.

    Quoted message said:


    What is causing this increase in pulse rate?

    Lowered blood pressure can do it.

    Could you elaborate on this?

    Baroreceptors in the carotid sinus sense the decreased pressure and sends
    signals that lower vagal tone. Less vagal tone increases heart rate.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:


    Should I ignore my GP and see a cardiologist?

    You should inform your GP about the above.

    I saw my GP a couple weeks ago, and showed him a graph of the rising
    pulse rate. He said don't worry about it, said pulse of 80's and 90's
    are normal. A 60 day graph shows systolic in a somewhat decline,
    diastolic in a erratic flat to decline pattern, and pulse in a rapid
    increase. Quite scary since one would expect all three to decline.

    Not if you understand physiology and the pharmacology behind the medications
    you are taking.

    Quoted message said:


    As you can guess, on DM diagnosis, I also had hypertension.

    Having diabetes does not automatically mean you have or will have
    hypertension.

    Quoted message said:

    Cozaar
    really knocked it down. I no longer take cozaar, but have some left.
    Could I add cozaar to the altace?

    Don't see a reason to since your blood pressure is well controlled according
    to the information you give.

    Quoted message said:


    Thank you. The pulse worry's me.

    If you are losing weight, it may be time for your doctor to back off on some
    of the blood pressure medications. Folks generally need less as they get
    lighter.

    Are you visiting from ASD?

    --
    Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
    Board-Certified Cardiologist
    http://www.heartmdphd.com/

  5. MD/PhD said:


    Quoted message said:


    As you can guess, on DM diagnosis, I also had hypertension.

    Having diabetes does not automatically mean you have or will have
    hypertension.

    Upon dx about eighteen months ago, my BP was 170/118/124. The
    original GP I saw at that time put me on Cozaar. I took Cozaar for
    about a month when the BP approached 117/68/78.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    Cozaar
    really knocked it down. I no longer take cozaar, but have some left.
    Could I add cozaar to the altace?

    Don't see a reason to since your blood pressure is well controlled according
    to the information you give.

    Quoted message said:


    Thank you. The pulse worry's me.

    If you are losing weight, it may be time for your doctor to back off on some
    of the blood pressure medications. Folks generally need less as they get
    lighter.

    The GP put me on Altace about six weeks ago for kidney protection.
    The urine Microalbum U Random test showed as 17.9 ug/mL. Slightly
    above the range of 0.1 - 17. The pulse started rising a short time
    before starting Altace. A1c = 5.5, a year ago it was 5.4. Crazy
    blood sugars are not the problem.

    BP this morning was 101/65/92. I don't like that pulse, too high.

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