OT: Cell phones and driving

Peter A said:

For the pinheads who still insist that using a cell phone or doing
other things while driving is not a risk, here are some more facts
for you to ignore.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/04/20/driving.study/index.html

I totally agree with you, Peter. I only have my cell phone with me in case
my car breaks down and I need to get help. I don't yak on it while I'm
driving. I don't yak on it while I'm in a store. I don't yak on it when
I'm in a movie theater. I don't yak on it, period. I was driving last
night and this idiot pulled out of a cross street in front of me while
holding a cell phone to their ear. I'm a vigilent driver; I knew this
person wasn't paying attention so I slowed down. Had I also been yakking
away on my cell phone and not paying attention we might have had a nice
little crash on our hands.

Jill

Peter said:

For the pinheads who still insist that using a cell phone or doing other
things while driving is not a risk, here are some more facts for you to
ignore.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/04/20/driving.study/index.html

I don't think that anybody claimed that using a cell phone while driving
isn't a distraction, nor did anybody claim that driving while distracted
isn't a risk. The issue was what should be done about it. I contend that if
driving with a cell phone is made illegal because of the distraction
involved, then ALL similar distractions ought to be made illegal, including
the transport of children.

Bob

Peter A said:

For the pinheads who still insist that using a cell phone or doing other
things while driving is not a risk, here are some more facts for you to
ignore.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/04/20/driving.study/index.html

You bored, Peter? Dunno how many times we have gone over this.... Now,
if they had said that "cooking while driving" was a distraction - then
you would have got my attention <yawn>

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Cheers
Chatty Cathy

In article <[email hidden]>,
virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz says...

Quoted message said:

I don't think that anybody claimed that using a cell phone while driving
isn't a distraction, nor did anybody claim that driving while distracted
isn't a risk. The issue was what should be done about it. I contend that if
driving with a cell phone is made illegal because of the distraction
involved, then ALL similar distractions ought to be made illegal, including
the transport of children.

By your logic we cannot take steps to prevent any kind of cancer unless
we prevent all of them.

How silly is that!

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Peter Aitken
Visit my recipe and kitchen myths pages at www.pgacon.com/cooking.htm

Bob Terwilliger said:

Peter said:

For the pinheads who still insist that using a cell phone or doing other
things while driving is not a risk, here are some more facts for you to
ignore.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/04/20/driving.study/index.html

I don't think that anybody claimed that using a cell phone while driving
isn't a distraction, nor did anybody claim that driving while distracted
isn't a risk. The issue was what should be done about it. I contend that if
driving with a cell phone is made illegal because of the distraction
involved, then ALL similar distractions ought to be made illegal, including
the transport of children.

Bob

That's already been dealt with. ;-)

It's called child car seats.
Your kids are strapped down now until they are nearly 8 years old.

OmManiPadmiOmelet said:

Bob Terwilliger wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I don't think that anybody claimed that using a cell phone while
driving isn't a distraction, nor did anybody claim that driving while
distracted isn't a risk. The issue was what should be done about it.
I contend that if driving with a cell phone is made illegal because of
the distraction involved, then ALL similar distractions ought to be
made illegal, including the transport of children.

Bob

That's already been dealt with. ;-)

It's called child car seats.
Your kids are strapped down now until they are nearly 8 years old.

Yabut, they don't come with "mouth gags" 😉

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Cheers
Chatty Cathy

Peter A said:

For the pinheads who still insist that using a cell phone or doing other
things while driving is not a risk, here are some more facts for you to
ignore.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/04/20/driving.study/index.html

How old are you Peter ? A similar study notes that a person in their
30's using a cell phone is as dangerous as a person in their mid 50's
NOT using a cell phone. Be careful what you ask for....

Dean G.

"Chatty Cathy (a.k.a. cathyxyz)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Peter A said:

For the pinheads who still insist that using a cell phone or doing other
things while driving is not a risk, here are some more facts for you to
ignore.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/04/20/driving.study/index.html

You bored, Peter? Dunno how many times we have gone over this.... Now,
if they had said that "cooking while driving" was a distraction - then
you would have got my attention <yawn>

Now that you mention it ...

When I'm in the RV making breakfast, the cruise control sometimes drops out
and I have to go up front and reset it.
Can I just baste the eggs with a little beer, covered, so I don't end up
with hard-cooked eggs?
(Going back and forth up to the wheel distracts from cooking the eggs
properly, not to mention my toast getting cold from sitting in the "up"
toaster too long.)

Quoted message said:

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Cheers
Chatty Cathy

hob said:

"Chatty Cathy (a.k.a. cathyxyz)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Peter A said:

For the pinheads who still insist that using a cell phone or doing other
things while driving is not a risk, here are some more facts for you to
ignore.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/04/20/driving.study/index.html

You bored, Peter? Dunno how many times we have gone over this.... Now,
if they had said that "cooking while driving" was a distraction - then
you would have got my attention <yawn>

Now that you mention it ...

When I'm in the RV making breakfast, the cruise control sometimes drops out
and I have to go up front and reset it.
Can I just baste the eggs with a little beer, covered, so I don't end up
with hard-cooked eggs?
(Going back and forth up to the wheel distracts from cooking the eggs
properly, not to mention my toast getting cold from sitting in the "up"
toaster too long.)

LOL.

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Cheers
Chatty Cathy

Peter A said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
virtualgoth@die_spammer.biz says...

Quoted message said:

I don't think that anybody claimed that using a cell phone while driving
isn't a distraction, nor did anybody claim that driving while distracted
isn't a risk. The issue was what should be done about it. I contend that if
driving with a cell phone is made illegal because of the distraction
involved, then ALL similar distractions ought to be made illegal, including
the transport of children.

By your logic we cannot take steps to prevent any kind of cancer unless
we prevent all of them.

His logic is nothing of the such. The difference is that we can do
something about many forms of distraction, but the only ones that
people do talk about are cell phones and smoking. The studies also note
that changing a radio station also increases the chance of an accident,
but nobody talks about banning that. Chaging your climate control also
increases your chance of an accident, but nobody talks about banning
that.

Cancer on the other hand, is not a voluntary action. You treating it as
such is intellectually dishonest.

Oh, and by the way, we DO try to prevent all the forms of cancer that
we can. We don't pick and choose like you would have people do with
driving distractions.

How silly is that ?

Dean G.

Bob Terwilliger said:

Peter said:

For the pinheads who still insist that using a cell phone or doing
other things while driving is not a risk, here are some more facts
for you to ignore.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/04/20/driving.study/index.html

I don't think that anybody claimed that using a cell phone while
driving isn't a distraction, nor did anybody claim that driving while
distracted isn't a risk. The issue was what should be done about it.
I contend that if driving with a cell phone is made illegal because
of the distraction involved, then ALL similar distractions ought to
be made illegal, including the transport of children.

Bob

NONSENSE! Driving while talking on the phone has nothing to do with
transporting children. You can certainly ingore the strapped in crying
child but you can't ignore your boss or your girlfriend or your
husband/whife yelling at you on the cell phone. Oh, wait, you can. If you
don't answer your cell phone. Just let it be. Leave it alone. Don't talk
on the phone.

As for the kids in the back seat..., just say shut up! Or Mommy is going to
kill you when we get home! LOL

I was never allowed to yell when I went to the store with mommy. I was
never allowed to scream and kick and have tantrums if I didn't get a pack of
gum or a candy bar when I went to the store with mommy. Why is it kids are
allowed to get away with this behavior today? And please, don't tell me
they all suffer from ADD and peanut allergies and hence, should be coddled
😉

Jill

Dean G. said:

How old are you Peter ? A similar study notes that a person in their
30's using a cell phone is as dangerous as a person in their mid 50's
NOT using a cell phone. Be careful what you ask for....

Dean G.

Really? Could you give a source for this please?

Chatty Cathy (a.k.a. cathyxyz) said:

Peter A said:

For the pinheads who still insist that using a cell phone or doing
other things while driving is not a risk, here are some more facts
for you to ignore.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/04/20/driving.study/index.html

You bored, Peter? Dunno how many times we have gone over this.... Now,
if they had said that "cooking while driving" was a distraction - then
you would have got my attention <yawn>

How about keeping kids away from hot pots of boiling oil or water or
simmering rice? Would that get your attention? None of which are done in a
car, so your point is moot.

Jill

jmcquown said:

As for the kids in the back seat..., just say shut up! Or Mommy is going to
kill you when we get home! LOL

Um, how many kids do you have Jill? Or lemme put it this way: how often
do you drive with kids in your car?

Quoted message said:

I was never allowed to yell when I went to the store with mommy. I was
never allowed to scream and kick and have tantrums if I didn't get a pack of
gum or a candy bar when I went to the store with mommy. Why is it kids are
allowed to get away with this behavior today?

Because now it is practically "illegal" to "smack/hit" your kids...

And please, don't tell me

Quoted message said:

they all suffer from ADD and peanut allergies and hence, should be coddled
😉

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Cheers
Chatty Cathy

jmcquown said:

How about keeping kids away from hot pots of boiling oil or water or
simmering rice? Would that get your attention? None of which are done in a
car, so your point is moot.

Jill

You missed my point completely. We all *know* it is dangerous to drive
while drinking/talking on a cell phone/fiddling with the
radio/reading/whatever.. so why keep bringing it up?

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Cheers
Chatty Cathy

Chatty Cathy (a.k.a. cathyxyz) said:

jmcquown said:

I was never allowed to yell when I went to the store with mommy. I was
never allowed to scream and kick and have tantrums if I didn't get a
pack of
gum or a candy bar when I went to the store with mommy. Why is it
kids are
allowed to get away with this behavior today?

Because now it is practically "illegal" to "smack/hit" your kids...

Which is total [censored].
Don't hit your kids hard enough to leave marks.
Once they know you mean it, the threat is sufficient.

I knew my dad would take a belt to my ass at home if I did not pay
attention. He never had to do it much. Once I knew he meant it, the mere
threat would get his point across.

It's called "training".

Anthony said:

Dean G. said:

How old are you Peter ? A similar study notes that a person in their
30's using a cell phone is as dangerous as a person in their mid 50's
NOT using a cell phone. Be careful what you ask for....

Dean G.

Really? Could you give a source for this please?

University of Utah study

http://www.utah.edu/unews/releases/05/feb/cellphones.html

Gabby

OmManiPadmiOmelet said:

Chatty Cathy (a.k.a. cathyxyz) said:

jmcquown said:

I was never allowed to yell when I went to the store with mommy. I was
never allowed to scream and kick and have tantrums if I didn't get a
pack of
gum or a candy bar when I went to the store with mommy. Why is it
kids are
allowed to get away with this behavior today?

Because now it is practically "illegal" to "smack/hit" your kids...

Which is total [censored].
Don't hit your kids hard enough to leave marks.

Jay-zus. Did you get this from "Child-abuse 101" ?
<Cathy shakes head, thinking "I can't believe you said that"> Please
tell me it "came out wrong"?

Quoted message said:

Once they know you mean it, the threat is sufficient.

I knew my dad would take a belt to my ass at home if I did not pay
attention. He never had to do it much. Once I knew he meant it, the mere
threat would get his point across.

It's called "training".

If you say so.

Quoted message said:

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Cheers
Chatty Cathy

jmcquown said:

Bob Terwilliger said:

I don't think that anybody claimed that using a cell phone while
driving isn't a distraction, nor did anybody claim that driving while
distracted isn't a risk. The issue was what should be done about it.
I contend that if driving with a cell phone is made illegal because
of the distraction involved, then ALL similar distractions ought to
be made illegal, including the transport of children.

Bob

NONSENSE! Driving while talking on the phone has nothing to do with
transporting children. You can certainly ingore the strapped in crying
child but you can't ignore your boss or your girlfriend or your
husband/whife yelling at you on the cell phone.

Could you please tell this to MY girlfriend ?

Besides, Bob's point is that parents are distracted by their children
while driving. This distraction is often greater than the distraction
of a cell phone. I can't recall how many times I have seen parents turn
around to yell at their children in the back seat. A recentl local case
involved a mother who turned around to yell at her children and ran
over two people on a motorcycle.

Dean G.