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  1. Howdy folks, newbie here.

    The wife and I were given a very expensive french roaster as a wedding
    present. (I believe that's the term - it's a large, heavy roasting pan
    with a removable internal rack). It really should be perfect for turkey
    but somehow we haven't mastered it. Seems to be undercooked every time,
    *especially at the bottom*, even after leaving it in longer than should
    be necessary.

    My theory is we tend to be peekers and basters, and due to the bird's
    elevation from the pan, losing heat is an even bigger no-no than with a
    normal pan. Or is there something else we need to know about this
    technique?

    Thanks.

  2. Quoted message said:

    Howdy folks, newbie here.

    The wife and I were given a very expensive french roaster as a wedding
    present. (I believe that's the term - it's a large, heavy roasting pan
    with a removable internal rack). It really should be perfect for turkey
    but somehow we haven't mastered it. Seems to be undercooked every time,
    *especially at the bottom*, even after leaving it in longer than should
    be necessary.

    My theory is we tend to be peekers and basters, and due to the bird's
    elevation from the pan, losing heat is an even bigger no-no than with a
    normal pan. Or is there something else we need to know about this
    technique?

    Thanks.

    You can roast a turkey in lots of different things, whether it has a
    rack or not doesn't matter so much although it's good to have if you
    want a crisper skin on the bottom. What do you mean by "longer than it
    should be necessary"? Are you referring to estimated roasting time
    based on weight? Are you roasting covered or uncovered? Stuffed or
    not? What oven temperature? They all make a difference. Use a meat
    thermometer to determine when it's done.

    Sandy
    Sandy

  3. Quoted message said:

    Howdy folks, newbie here.

    The wife and I were given a very expensive french roaster as a wedding
    present. (I believe that's the term - it's a large, heavy roasting pan
    with a removable internal rack). It really should be perfect for turkey
    but somehow we haven't mastered it. Seems to be undercooked every time,
    *especially at the bottom*, even after leaving it in longer than should
    be necessary.

    My theory is we tend to be peekers and basters, and due to the bird's
    elevation from the pan, losing heat is an even bigger no-no than with a
    normal pan. Or is there something else we need to know about this
    technique?

    Thanks.

    Is it a covered roaster? If not, try tenting it with heavy-duty
    aluminum foil. I roast turkeys in an electric covered roasting pan and
    they turn out wonderful -- but not crispy. A roaster in the oven should
    work the same, and you can take the foil off for the last 20 minutes to
    give it some color and crisp the skin a little.

    Bob

  4. Quoted message said:

    Howdy folks, newbie here.

    The wife and I were given a very expensive french roaster as a wedding
    present. (I believe that's the term - it's a large, heavy roasting pan
    with a removable internal rack). It really should be perfect for turkey
    but somehow we haven't mastered it. Seems to be undercooked every time,
    *especially at the bottom*, even after leaving it in longer than should
    be necessary.

    My theory is we tend to be peekers and basters, and due to the bird's
    elevation from the pan, losing heat is an even bigger no-no than with a
    normal pan. Or is there something else we need to know about this
    technique?


    A large, heavy roasting pan with a removable internal rack is indeed
    the perfect thing for turkey. Especially if it is not non-stick. You
    want those goodies that drip down to caramelize so that when you make
    your gravy in the pan it will have maximum flavor.

    There isn't anything wrong with peeking and basting, although I've
    never found basting to be effective. If the bird is a manageable size
    I'd rather turn it. That is, I start it breast side down and then turn
    it breast side up towards the end in order to brown and crisp the
    breast skin.

    It sounds to me like you just underestimate the required time. Perhaps
    you're starting with a very cold bird while your time estimates are
    based on a room temp bird. Use an oven thermometer to be sure the temp
    is where it should be, and use a meat thermometer to know when it's
    done. Time the meal so that you leave 15 minutes or so at the end for
    the bird to be removed from the oven and allowed to rest under a foil
    tent. That's when you do the gravy and finish the [roasted garlic]
    mashed potatoes... :-) -aem

  5. [email hidden] wrote in news:1145034400.475624.220080
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    Quoted message said:

    Howdy folks, newbie here.

    The wife and I were given a very expensive french roaster as a wedding
    present. (I believe that's the term - it's a large, heavy roasting pan
    with a removable internal rack). It really should be perfect for turkey
    but somehow we haven't mastered it. Seems to be undercooked every time,
    *especially at the bottom*, even after leaving it in longer than should
    be necessary.

    My theory is we tend to be peekers and basters, and due to the bird's
    elevation from the pan, losing heat is an even bigger no-no than with a
    normal pan. Or is there something else we need to know about this
    technique?

    Have you checked the temperature of your oven?

    --

    Charles
    The significant problems we face cannot be solved
    at the same level of thinking we were at when we
    created them. Albert Einstein

  6. Charles Quinn wrote on 15 Apr 2006 in rec.food.cooking

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    [email hidden] wrote in news:1145034400.475624.220080
    @i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

    Quoted message said:

    Howdy folks, newbie here.

    The wife and I were given a very expensive french roaster as a


    wedding

    Quoted message said:
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    present. (I believe that's the term - it's a large, heavy roasting


    pan

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    with a removable internal rack). It really should be perfect for


    turkey

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    Quoted message said:

    but somehow we haven't mastered it. Seems to be undercooked every


    time,

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    *especially at the bottom*, even after leaving it in longer than


    should

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    be necessary.

    My theory is we tend to be peekers and basters, and due to the bird's
    elevation from the pan, losing heat is an even bigger no-no than with


    a

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    normal pan. Or is there something else we need to know about this
    technique?

    Have you checked the temperature of your oven?

    Invest in a poltry thermometer, rotate the bird, start breast up ...move
    to breast down and finally breast up again.

    Optional thoughts.

    Leave the lid off till close to done.

    If you have a convection oven remember the turkey will be partialy
    sheilded due to the height of the pan therefore raise the temp.to around
    375 to 400F, hence the underdone lower part.

    Move outside and rotisserrie the turkey on the grill.

    --
    -Alan

  7. Sorry, I should've been a little more detailed. I've done many
    successful turkeys in the past (yes, using temp/weight charts), but
    this heavier - and yes - higher - pan with a rack has me confounded.
    Starting it breast-down sounds like an excellent idea, as does this:

    If you have a convection oven remember the turkey will be partialy
    sheilded due to the height of the pan therefore raise the temp.to
    around
    375 to 400F, hence the underdone lower part.

    Thanks, Alan and all. (Also, it seems nearly unanimous that once you
    BBQ a turkey, there's no going back. I'll have to try it)

  8. Quoted message said:

    [snip]
    Thanks, Alan and all. (Also, it seems nearly unanimous that once you
    BBQ a turkey, there's no going back. I'll have to try it)

    No way! There are a few fanatic smoke lovers who talk it up as much as
    they can but it's nothing like a "nearly unanimous" view. More like a
    passionate cabal. Besides, you haven't heard from the turkey deep
    fryers yet -- or at least those who have recovered from burning down
    their garages....

    Fact is, roast turkey rules. The proof is that neither bbq nor
    deepfrying leads to stuffing and gravy, which is what the meal is all
    about anyway. -aem

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