Dreamfields Pasta?

Let me beat the resident troll to the punch. Pasta is not low carb. It
is still loaded with calories even if it is supposedly LC. Try coarse
shredded zucchini or a small amount of spaghetti squash. Chicken and
alfredo sauce is great over it. I grate the zucchini raw and dip it in
boiling water to blanch it a bit first. I drain it, top it, and serve

Laureen

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Rick King said:

I have been reading about this stuff....Is is all hype or the real deal?

Rick

Some folks do fine with it, though it's still a whopping big load of
calories for a small serving.

Some of us who test our blood glucose after eating it find that it's
just as bad or worse than regular pasta.

Susan

Laureen said:

Let me beat the resident troll to the punch. Pasta is not low carb. It
is still loaded with calories even if it is supposedly LC.

And what does being loaded with calories have to do with anything?
Cream, cheese and steak are all loaded with calories, so shoud they be
avoided on LC too?

Try coarse

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shredded zucchini or a small amount of spaghetti squash. Chicken and
alfredo sauce is great over it. I grate the zucchini raw and dip it in
boiling water to blanch it a bit first. I drain it, top it, and serve

Laureen

If you don;'t know anything about Dreamfields, which is the question at
hand, then why start telling people what they should eat instead?

Dreamfields is a product that is supposed to bind the carbs in the
pasta so that they are not easily digested. Diabetics on here that
test their blood sugar levels have reported mixed results. Some say it
works as advertised. Others say that they see a spike several hours
after eating it, which is outside the window that I believe Dreamfields
says they tested. I'd say the jury is still out.

Like many things, you have to decide if it's right for you. That
depends on what phase you are in and as always, YMMV.

My point was this: The TEENY TINY serving size. One would have to eat 4
servings at least (I MAY BE WAY OFF HERE ok)?) and then multiply the
carb count by 4 and you have way too many carbs. It's a "why bother"
thing IMHO.

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Laureen said:

Let me beat the resident troll to the punch. Pasta is not low carb. It
is still loaded with calories even if it is supposedly LC.

And what does being loaded with calories have to do with anything?
Cream, cheese and steak are all loaded with calories, so shoud they be
avoided on LC too?

Try coarse

Quoted message said:

shredded zucchini or a small amount of spaghetti squash. Chicken and
alfredo sauce is great over it. I grate the zucchini raw and dip it in
boiling water to blanch it a bit first. I drain it, top it, and serve

Laureen

If you don;'t know anything about Dreamfields, which is the question at
hand, then why start telling people what they should eat instead?

Dreamfields is a product that is supposed to bind the carbs in the
pasta so that they are not easily digested. Diabetics on here that
test their blood sugar levels have reported mixed results. Some say it
works as advertised. Others say that they see a spike several hours
after eating it, which is outside the window that I believe Dreamfields
says they tested. I'd say the jury is still out.

Like many things, you have to decide if it's right for you. That
depends on what phase you are in and as always, YMMV.

Susan said:

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Rick King said:

I have been reading about this stuff....Is is all hype or the real deal?

Rick

Some folks do fine with it, though it's still a whopping big load of
calories for a small serving.

So he should stay away from cream, butter, cheese, steak etc too, cause
they are high in calories? I'm amazed that anyone familiar with LC
would start with the calories in Dreamfields as the first objection.
3/4 cup of the dry product has 190 calories. That should make at least
a cup of pasta when cooked. Let's say you double it and have 2 cups,
which is a decent serving. That's still only 380 calories, which is
pretty modest compared to what you can get from many other LC staples.

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Some of us who test our blood glucose after eating it find that it's
just as bad or worse than regular pasta.

Susan

The serving size is 2oz uncooked, which is plenty for me.

Tara

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My point was this: The TEENY TINY serving size. One would have to eat 4
servings at least (I MAY BE WAY OFF HERE ok)?) and then multiply the
carb count by 4 and you have way too many carbs. It's a "why bother"
thing IMHO.

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I have been reading about this stuff....Is is all hype or the real deal?

That seems to be a very individual answer. As a diabetic, I can eat it with
no effect to my blood sugar, and it doesn't cause me carb cravings. It works
for me. However, I'm very careful to eat only the recommended serve - which
is plenty for me, with a salad - and cook it for the recommended time.

I do know lots of diabetics for whom it doesn't work, big time - soaring
blood sugars, sometimes hours after eating it, sometimes lasting for hours.
Leftovers seem to be universally problematic.

I enjoy it about once a month - it's a no-brainer meal I can cook for the
whole family.

Nicky.

--
A1c 10.5/5.4/<6 T2 DX 05/2004
1g Metformin, 100ug Thyroxine
95/74/72Kg

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So he should stay away from cream, butter, cheese, steak etc too, cause
they are high in calories?

I'm amazed that anyone could read my post and argue about stuff that's
not in it.

The serving size is 2 oz, about 1/2 of cooked pasta. Hardly a meal,
very unsatiating, unlike fat or protein. And for many folks, it causes
a very late and very long blood glucose rise.

Where did I *tell* anyone what to eat?

Susan

Rick King said:

I have been reading about this stuff....Is is all hype or the real deal?

Rick

What have you read?

Was it anything technical, explaining the patented method of "protecting
carbohydrates" from digestion?

Or was it anectdotal on how it affected different people?

It appears to work for me, but I don't regularly test blood sugar
levels, so I wouldn't really know if the patented chemical process is
working for me or not.

Just like sugar alcohols, different people react in different ways and
some seem more successful than others.

Remember, the fact that it was patented doesn't mean it works as claimed
for everyone. But, it probably works well for some, or even most.

--
1) Eat Till SATISFIED, Not STUFFED... Atkins repeated 9 times in the book
2) Exercise: It's Non-Negotiable..... Chapter 22 title, Atkins book
3) Don't Diet Without Supplemental Nutrients... Chapter 23 title, Atkins
book
4) A sensible eating plan, and follow it. (Atkins, Self Made or Other)

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Let me beat the resident troll to the punch. Pasta is not low carb. It
is still loaded with calories even if it is supposedly LC. Try coarse
shredded zucchini or a small amount of spaghetti squash. Chicken and
alfredo sauce is great over it. I grate the zucchini raw and dip it in
boiling water to blanch it a bit first. I drain it, top it, and serve

Laureen

Laureen,
Thanks for the reply....I tried to reply yeaterday but my post was a no
show. I am looking at this for a Italian friend of mind who says he can do
the LC WOE if he can have his "pasta" twice per month. He really needs to
lose a lot of weight like me and if this would work for him then I think I
can get him to try LC. Its hard to break a tradition that goes way back in
his family.

Thanks

Rick

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What have you read?

Was it anything technical, explaining the patented method of "protecting
carbohydrates" from digestion?

Most of what I read was from the Dreamfields website and I was rather
looking for user reviews.

Rick

Rick King said:

Quoted message said:

What have you read?

Was it anything technical, explaining the patented method of "protecting
carbohydrates" from digestion?

Most of what I read was from the Dreamfields website and I was rather
looking for user reviews.

Rick

You also said, in another post:

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I tried to reply yeaterday but my post was a no
show. I am looking at this for a Italian friend of mind who says he can do
the LC WOE if he can have his "pasta" twice per month. He really needs to
lose a lot of weight like me and if this would work for him then I think I
can get him to try LC. Its hard to break a tradition that goes way back in
his family.

Your friend can more than likely gobble up pasta twice a month as a
"planned cheat" on a Low Carb diet and not be worried at all.

Especially if those days are "carb loading" for serious exercise within
the next day.

You get far better answers to better questions, don't you?

--
1) Eat Till SATISFIED, Not STUFFED... Atkins repeated 9 times in the book
2) Exercise: It's Non-Negotiable..... Chapter 22 title, Atkins book
3) Don't Diet Without Supplemental Nutrients... Chapter 23 title, Atkins
book
4) A sensible eating plan, and follow it. (Atkins, Self Made or Other)

Susan said:

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So he should stay away from cream, butter, cheese, steak etc too, cause
they are high in calories?

I'm amazed that anyone could read my post and argue about stuff that's
not in it.

The serving size is 2 oz, about 1/2 of cooked pasta. Hardly a meal,
very unsatiating, unlike fat or protein. And for many folks, it causes
a very late and very long blood glucose rise.

Where did I *tell* anyone what to eat?

Susan

What you said was

"Some folks do fine with it, though it's still a whopping big load of
calories for a small serving. "

My point was it's pretty strange to be answering a question about
Dreamfields pasta with a negative remark about calories when LC folks
here regularly consume butter, cream, cheese, oil, alfredo sauce, bacon
and a whole lot of other LC food staples that have a hell of a lot more
calories than the pasta. And for most people on LC, calories only come
into play if they are having problems losing, which this poster gave no
indication of being the case.

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Quoted message said:

What you said was

"Some folks do fine with it, though it's still a whopping big load of
calories for a small serving. "

My point was it's pretty strange to be answering a question about
Dreamfields pasta with a negative remark about calories when LC folks
here regularly consume butter, cream, cheese, oil, alfredo sauce, bacon
and a whole lot of other LC food staples that have a hell of a lot more
calories than the pasta.

I never told anyone what to eat. I expressed my opinion about
Dreamfield's pasta. That's still allowed here, right?

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And for most people on LC, calories only come
into play if they are having problems losing, which this poster gave no
indication of being the case.

This is as irrelevent as your first statement. A high calorie meal of
protein and fat is substantial, in nutrient and satiety terms. 2 oz. of
pasta, dry, is not.

But I don't care if you decide to eat it.

Further, calories matter to any low carber who gets anywhere close to
goal weight; they only don't matter in most cases if you stay fat.

Susan

Susan said:

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Quoted message said:

What you said was

"Some folks do fine with it, though it's still a whopping big load of
calories for a small serving. "

My point was it's pretty strange to be answering a question about
Dreamfields pasta with a negative remark about calories when LC folks
here regularly consume butter, cream, cheese, oil, alfredo sauce, bacon
and a whole lot of other LC food staples that have a hell of a lot more
calories than the pasta.

I never told anyone what to eat. I expressed my opinion about
Dreamfield's pasta. That's still allowed here, right?

Why do you keep restating this, when I never said you told anyone what
to eat. I only said to lead off with the negative remark that
Dreamfield pasta is a "whopping big load of calories" makes no sense.
Get over it.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

And for most people on LC, calories only come
into play if they are having problems losing, which this poster gave no
indication of being the case.

This is as irrelevent as your first statement. A high calorie meal of
protein and fat is substantial, in nutrient and satiety terms. 2 oz. of
pasta, dry, is not.

Maybe that's your problem. You're not supposed to eat it dry. You're
supposed to cook it and put some sauce and cheese on it.

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But I don't care if you decide to eat it.>
Further, calories matter to any low carber who gets anywhere close to
goal weight; they only don't matter in most cases if you stay fat.

Susan

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Quoted message said:

Why do you keep restating this, when I never said you told anyone what
to eat. I only said to lead off with the negative remark that
Dreamfield pasta is a "whopping big load of calories" makes no sense.
Get over it.

Who appointed you moderator?

Get over yourself.

Susan

Hi Rick, You must have have clicked on the "reply author" option rather
than just reply. I got your reply in my personal email. Thanks for
writing though. Hope I was of some help
Laureen

Rick King said:

Quoted message said:

Let me beat the resident troll to the punch. Pasta is not low carb. It
is still loaded with calories even if it is supposedly LC. Try coarse
shredded zucchini or a small amount of spaghetti squash. Chicken and
alfredo sauce is great over it. I grate the zucchini raw and dip it in
boiling water to blanch it a bit first. I drain it, top it, and serve

Laureen

Laureen,
Thanks for the reply....I tried to reply yeaterday but my post was a no
show. I am looking at this for a Italian friend of mind who says he can do
the LC WOE if he can have his "pasta" twice per month. He really needs to
lose a lot of weight like me and if this would work for him then I think I
can get him to try LC. Its hard to break a tradition that goes way back in
his family.

Thanks

Rick

Rick King said:

Thanks for the reply....I tried to reply yeaterday but my post was a no
show. I am looking at this for a Italian friend of mind who says he can do
the LC WOE if he can have his "pasta" twice per month. He really needs to
lose a lot of weight like me and if this would work for him then I think I
can get him to try LC. Its hard to break a tradition that goes way back in
his family.

I'm Italian too. My whole freaking family is fat and diabetic from the
pasta. But... pasta is almost flavorless. Turns out all the flavor is
in the sauces and such.

A bowl of meatballs with sauce and cheese melted over it is quite yummy
even without the pasta, which is really just a flavorless filler. Just
leave the breadcrumbs out of the meatballs, turns out if you just add
spices, it's way more flavorful than with bread anyway.

Or have a bowl of chicken with an asiago or alfredo sauce. Decadent
and yummy.

People will suggest putting these sauces over veggies. That's OK too.
It doesn't matter really, the sauce is where the flavor is, so just the
sauce and meat is yummy.

Or... try instant lasagna. Put some ricotta in a bowl, sprinkle it
with chives, top with a mild marinara, some mozzarella and parmesan and
nuke until it's a nice melty mess. You won't miss the noodles, all the
flavor is in the cheeses anyways.

Pizza... two ways.

First one, press italian sausage onto a pizza pan, bake until it
doesn't shrink anymore, then drain, add toppings and bake.

Second one, put a low-carb tortilla on a skillet, add toppings, and
bake. Both are good, though way different.

Fry up a mess of veggies with seasonings: portabellas, red, orange and
yellow bell peppers, onions, garlic fried in olive oil with oregano,
basil and parsley, This stuff is good as is, or you can add it to
salads, or to top meat, or to sandwiches made with low-carb tortillas.
It's very versatile stuff.

Google this group for the italian sausage soup recipe. I know it
sounds weird to make soup from italian sausage, but it's one of the
yummiest things I've ever eaten, low-carb or no. It's just incredibly
awesome.

Rick King said:

I have been reading about this stuff....Is is all hype or the real deal?

Rick

Hi everyone,

Her in France I found a new product that is quite ineteresting: it is
soy noodles. There's nothing in it but soy, no wheat, no bran, no ricel:
soy.
The first time I found it was in a health food supermarket, marketted
as "Tofu" noodles. It was quite expensive (about 4 EUR, nearly 5 USD)
for 200g (7 oz).
But I tried it. And it is really nice a treat, indeed.
28g net carb for 100 g.
Clearly not for induction time, but it never kicked me out of ketosis.
Once cooked with cheese and sauce, it clearly stays a low carb meal for me.

A few days after, I went in a asian supermarket in order to see if I
could find those. And I did: "soy spaghetti" at 1.5 EUR (instead of 4EUR
may I remind you).
I found it near the rice noodles and such.
The girl at the cashier desk in the supermarket told me it was quite new
a product and even asked me if it was any good :-)

I thought it was the right thread to talk about this product.
Don't know if it is worldwidely available, though, but asian food is
quite well distributed in many countrie, am I right?

Good night

Huey