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  1. It seems that if you are an American, living in the US, McDonalds and
    KFC don't really give a damn about you, but if you live in a country
    with a government that is tough on nutrition, then they lift their game.

    http://tinyurl.com/ra42h

    They have supposedly been "working" on reducing trans fats in the US for
    years, but it seems that when they *really* need to do it or not be
    allowed to operate, they suddenly find a way. Having a US product with
    nearly ten times the levels of trans fats as the same product in
    Denmark, and three time as much as the level in many other countries is
    rather incredible.

    Maybe the Bush Government should focus less on imaginary weapons of mass
    destruction and more on laws curtailing the "mass enlargement" and ever
    diminishing health of its population.

    Regards

    David

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  2. That would change tomorrow if American would just say NO. I don't eat
    anything from their menu which would contain transfats.

    J. David Anderson wrote:
    :: It seems that if you are an American, living in the US, McDonalds and
    :: KFC don't really give a damn about you, but if you live in a country
    :: with a government that is tough on nutrition, then they lift their
    :: game.
    ::

  3. That's why I don't eat at KFC, and at McD's I only get something like
    two of their regular burgers and a diet, or one reg double
    cheeseburger, and NO fries (I now almost never eat fries, just a big
    bag of fat)

  4. J. David Anderson' jdavidanderson_@hotmail said:

    Maybe the Bush Government should focus less on imaginary weapons of
    mass destruction and more on laws curtailing the "mass enlargement"
    and ever diminishing health of its population.

    Thank goodness we have a Constitution, which doesn't anywhere contain
    the words, "The Executive branch shall decide what the people eat."

    --
    Aaron -- [email hidden] -- 285/240/200
    http://www.myspace.com/aaronbaugher

  5. Aaron Baugher said:
    J. David Anderson' jdavidanderson_@hotmail said:

    Maybe the Bush Government should focus less on imaginary weapons of
    mass destruction and more on laws curtailing the "mass enlargement"
    and ever diminishing health of its population.

    Thank goodness we have a Constitution, which doesn't anywhere contain
    the words, "The Executive branch shall decide what the people eat."

    Who suggested that the government should make such decisions? I
    certainly didn't.

    But what about legislation that ensures that those who profit by
    providing "what the people eat" must not, for the sake of profit alone,
    sell food that will reduce both the length and quality of the people's
    lives? Are you also thankful that legislation of this nature doesn't exist?

    Regards

    David

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    All other mail is automatically deleted.

  6. "J. David Anderson" <jdavidanderson_@hotmail> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Aaron Baugher said:
    J. David Anderson' jdavidanderson_@hotmail said:

    Maybe the Bush Government should focus less on imaginary weapons of
    mass destruction and more on laws curtailing the "mass enlargement"
    and ever diminishing health of its population.

    Thank goodness we have a Constitution, which doesn't anywhere contain
    the words, "The Executive branch shall decide what the people eat."

    Who suggested that the government should make such decisions? I certainly
    didn't.

    But what about legislation that ensures that those who profit by providing
    "what the people eat" must not, for the sake of profit alone, sell food
    that will reduce both the length and quality of the people's lives? Are
    you also thankful that legislation of this nature doesn't exist?

    And if the Government decides that only low fat will not reduce both the
    length and quality if people's lives?

  7. J. David Anderson' jdavidanderson_@hotmail said:
    Aaron Baugher said:
    J. David Anderson' jdavidanderson_@hotmail said:

    Maybe the Bush Government should focus less on imaginary weapons of
    mass destruction and more on laws curtailing the "mass enlargement"
    and ever diminishing health of its population.


    Thank goodness we have a Constitution, which doesn't anywhere
    contain the words, "The Executive branch shall decide what the
    people eat."

    Who suggested that the government should make such decisions? I
    certainly didn't.

    How do you expect the government to curtail "the 'mass enlargement'
    and ever diminishing health' of the people without passing laws to
    control what we eat?

    Quoted message said:

    But what about legislation that ensures that those who profit by
    providing "what the people eat" must not, for the sake of profit
    alone, sell food that will reduce both the length and quality of the
    people's lives?

    That's just an end-around to accomplish the same thing without being
    honest about it. If you don't think people should eat XYZ, try to
    pass a law banning the sale of XYZ. And *all* businesses are in
    business "for the sake of profit alone," so I'm not sure what that
    qualification even means. Why else would they produce and sell food,
    for fun?

    Quoted message said:

    Are you also thankful that legislation of this nature doesn't exist?

    Absolutely. There's already far too much nanny legislation in other
    areas of our lives, from seat belts to smoking.

    Besides, since this is a low-carb group, consider what the likely
    result of laws to "encourage" the sale of healthy food would be, given
    the current conventional wisdom about nutrition. Do you really want
    an extra tax on red meat, and maybe a tax deduction for buying Special
    K? That's what it'd mean today, you know.

    --
    Aaron -- [email hidden] -- 285/240/200
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    "If you hear hoofbeats, you just go ahead and think horsies, not
    zebras."

  8. In article <[email hidden]>,

    JC Der Koenig said:

    "J. David Anderson" <jdavidanderson_@hotmail> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Aaron Baugher said:

    "J. David Anderson" <jdavidanderson_@hotmail> writes:

    >Maybe the Bush Government should focus less on imaginary weapons of
    >mass destruction and more on laws curtailing the "mass enlargement"
    >and ever diminishing health of its population.

    Thank goodness we have a Constitution, which doesn't anywhere contain
    the words, "The Executive branch shall decide what the people eat."

    Who suggested that the government should make such decisions? I certainly
    didn't.

    But what about legislation that ensures that those who profit by providing
    "what the people eat" must not, for the sake of profit alone, sell food
    that will reduce both the length and quality of the people's lives? Are
    you also thankful that legislation of this nature doesn't exist?

    And if the Government decides that only low fat will not reduce both the
    length and quality if people's lives?

    I keep trying to make that sentence make sense.

  9. Luna wrote:
    :: In article <[email hidden]>,
    :: "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    ::
    ::: "J. David Anderson" <jdavidanderson_@hotmail> wrote in message
    ::: news:[email hidden]...
    :::: Aaron Baugher wrote:
    ::::: "J. David Anderson" <jdavidanderson_@hotmail> writes:
    :::::
    :::::
    :::::: Maybe the Bush Government should focus less on imaginary weapons
    :::::: of mass destruction and more on laws curtailing the "mass
    :::::: enlargement" and ever diminishing health of its population.
    :::::
    :::::
    ::::: Thank goodness we have a Constitution, which doesn't anywhere
    ::::: contain the words, "The Executive branch shall decide what the
    ::::: people eat."
    ::::
    :::: Who suggested that the government should make such decisions? I
    :::: certainly didn't.
    ::::
    :::: But what about legislation that ensures that those who profit by
    :::: providing "what the people eat" must not, for the sake of profit
    :::: alone, sell food that will reduce both the length and quality of
    :::: the people's lives? Are you also thankful that legislation of this
    :::: nature doesn't exist?
    ::::
    :::
    ::: And if the Government decides that only low fat will not reduce
    ::: both the length and quality if people's lives?
    ::
    :: I keep trying to make that sentence make sense.

    Simply replace the second 'if' with 'of'.

  10. "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Luna wrote:
    :: In article <[email hidden]>,
    :: "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    ::
    ::: "J. David Anderson" <jdavidanderson_@hotmail> wrote in message
    ::: news:[email hidden]...
    :::: Aaron Baugher wrote:
    ::::: "J. David Anderson" <jdavidanderson_@hotmail> writes:
    :::::
    :::::
    :::::: Maybe the Bush Government should focus less on imaginary weapons
    :::::: of mass destruction and more on laws curtailing the "mass
    :::::: enlargement" and ever diminishing health of its population.
    :::::
    :::::
    ::::: Thank goodness we have a Constitution, which doesn't anywhere
    ::::: contain the words, "The Executive branch shall decide what the
    ::::: people eat."
    ::::
    :::: Who suggested that the government should make such decisions? I
    :::: certainly didn't.
    ::::
    :::: But what about legislation that ensures that those who profit by
    :::: providing "what the people eat" must not, for the sake of profit
    :::: alone, sell food that will reduce both the length and quality of
    :::: the people's lives? Are you also thankful that legislation of this
    :::: nature doesn't exist?
    ::::
    :::
    ::: And if the Government decides that only low fat will not reduce
    ::: both the length and quality if people's lives?
    ::
    :: I keep trying to make that sentence make sense.

    Simply replace the second 'if' with 'of'.

    Yeah.

  11. On Sun, 16 Apr 2006 00:04:46 GMT, Luna
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    |In article <[email hidden]>,
    | "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    |
    |> "J. David Anderson" <jdavidanderson_@hotmail> wrote in message
    |> news:[email hidden]...
    |> > Aaron Baugher wrote:
    |> >> "J. David Anderson" <jdavidanderson_@hotmail> writes:
    |> >>
    |> >>
    |> >>>Maybe the Bush Government should focus less on imaginary weapons of
    |> >>>mass destruction and more on laws curtailing the "mass enlargement"
    |> >>>and ever diminishing health of its population.
    |> >>
    |> >>
    |> >> Thank goodness we have a Constitution, which doesn't anywhere contain
    |> >> the words, "The Executive branch shall decide what the people eat."
    |> >
    |> > Who suggested that the government should make such decisions? I certainly
    |> > didn't.
    |> >
    |> > But what about legislation that ensures that those who profit by providing
    |> > "what the people eat" must not, for the sake of profit alone, sell food
    |> > that will reduce both the length and quality of the people's lives? Are
    |> > you also thankful that legislation of this nature doesn't exist?
    |> >
    |>
    |> And if the Government decides that only low fat will not reduce both the
    |> length and quality if people's lives?
    |
    |I keep trying to make that sentence make sense.

    I believe that it's an elliptical clause combined with an
    unfortunately placed adjective and a typo. Read:

    "And (what) if the Government decides that low fat (only) will not
    reduce both the length and quality (of) people's lives?"

  12. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Marengo said:

    On Sun, 16 Apr 2006 00:04:46 GMT, Luna
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    |In article <[email hidden]>,
    | "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    |
    |> "J. David Anderson" <jdavidanderson_@hotmail> wrote in message
    |> news:[email hidden]...
    |> > Aaron Baugher wrote:
    |> >> "J. David Anderson" <jdavidanderson_@hotmail> writes:
    |> >>
    |> >>
    |> >>>Maybe the Bush Government should focus less on imaginary weapons of
    |> >>>mass destruction and more on laws curtailing the "mass enlargement"
    |> >>>and ever diminishing health of its population.
    |> >>
    |> >>
    |> >> Thank goodness we have a Constitution, which doesn't anywhere contain
    |> >> the words, "The Executive branch shall decide what the people eat."
    |> >
    |> > Who suggested that the government should make such decisions? I
    |> > certainly
    |> > didn't.
    |> >
    |> > But what about legislation that ensures that those who profit by
    |> > providing
    |> > "what the people eat" must not, for the sake of profit alone, sell food
    |> > that will reduce both the length and quality of the people's lives? Are
    |> > you also thankful that legislation of this nature doesn't exist?
    |> >
    |>
    |> And if the Government decides that only low fat will not reduce both the
    |> length and quality if people's lives?
    |
    |I keep trying to make that sentence make sense.

    I believe that it's an elliptical clause combined with an
    unfortunately placed adjective and a typo. Read:

    "And (what) if the Government decides that low fat (only) will not
    reduce both the length and quality (of) people's lives?"

    Ok, got it now, thanks. Even replacing the "if" with "of" still leaves
    kind of an awkward sentence, but I see that he was trying to repeat the
    phrasing of the previous poster.

    Anyway, grammar aside, it's a good point. Depending on which health
    experts you talk to, almost any food can be considered beneficial to the
    length and quality of human lives. It's not the individual foods, but
    the overall diet that matters.

    The only two exceptions I can think of are foods with high fructose corn
    syrup and partially hydrogenated oils.

  13. "JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "J. David Anderson" <jdavidanderson_@hotmail> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Aaron Baugher said:

    "J. David Anderson" <jdavidanderson_@hotmail> writes:

    >Maybe the Bush Government should focus less on imaginary weapons of
    >mass destruction and more on laws curtailing the "mass enlargement"
    >and ever diminishing health of its population.

    Thank goodness we have a Constitution, which doesn't anywhere contain
    the words, "The Executive branch shall decide what the people eat."

    Who suggested that the government should make such decisions? I


    certainly

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    didn't.

    But what about legislation that ensures that those who profit by


    providing

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "what the people eat" must not, for the sake of profit alone, sell food
    that will reduce both the length and quality of the people's lives? Are
    you also thankful that legislation of this nature doesn't exist?

    And if the Government decides that only low fat will not reduce both the
    length and quality if people's lives?

    Right. Not that long ago the government was considering a "fat tax" on
    foods. I suppose that many junk foods would have been included and that
    would be ok, but would they have also included the tax on meat, cheese, and
    eggs? The new and improved food pyramids clearly have most of the calories
    coming from carbs. By that reasoning, a bowl of Honeynut Cheerios made from
    whole grains would be deemed healthier than steak, and taxed accordingly by
    the government's standard of healthy foods.

    Quoted message said:

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