I'm so ashamed

PhilD said:

A couple of days ago I overtook a lady on a bike. That is, she was
cycling, I was walking my bike as I was about to go into a
pedestrianised area. For some reason, that was kind of embarassing,
too.

A similar thing happened to me on Monday as I was pushing my bike into
Winchester's pedestrianised area.
The chap riding was one of the city's new biking policemen.

It seems the rules about no cycling in pedestrianised zones don't apply to
them.

Mind you, he did look very sheepishly at me.

John B

John B said:

The chap riding was one of the city's new biking policemen.

Disturbingly, I transposed the third and fourth words when I read the
above sentence.

R.

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A similar thing happened to me on Monday as I was pushing my bike into
Winchester's pedestrianised area.
The chap riding was one of the city's new biking policemen.

It seems the rules about no cycling in pedestrianised zones don't apply to
them.

Mind you, he did look very sheepishly at me.

Are you sure it wasn't piggishly?

John B said:

It seems the rules about no cycling in pedestrianised zones don't apply to
them.

Though check for what "pedestrianised" means in specific cases.
Dundee's pedestrianised zone is mostly actually "no motor vehicles"
(except for loading etc. exceptions), so cycling is mostly legal (there
are bits of pure pavement in there too).

Pete.
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PhilD said the following on 12/04/2006 08:24:

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A couple of days ago I overtook a lady on a bike. That is, she was
cycling, I was walking my bike as I was about to go into a
pedestrianised area. For some reason, that was kind of embarassing,
too.

I know what you mean. I've occasionally passed elderly joggers - when
I'm walking! You feel like you shouldn't be doing that!

--
Paul Boyd
http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

Peter Clinch said:

John B said:

It seems the rules about no cycling in pedestrianised zones don't apply to
them.

Though check for what "pedestrianised" means in specific cases.
Dundee's pedestrianised zone is mostly actually "no motor vehicles"
(except for loading etc. exceptions), so cycling is mostly legal (there
are bits of pure pavement in there too).

Of course you are right. In winchester various parts of the centre have
differing restrictions - but the section this Mr Plod was riding was definitely
no motor vehicles with no exceptions.

I nearly handed him a cycle training leaflet ;-)

John B

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Peter Clinch said:

John B said:

It seems the rules about no cycling in pedestrianised zones don't

apply to

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them.

Though check for what "pedestrianised" means in specific cases.
Dundee's pedestrianised zone is mostly actually "no motor vehicles"
(except for loading etc. exceptions), so cycling is mostly legal (there
are bits of pure pavement in there too).

Of course you are right. In winchester various parts of the centre have
differing restrictions - but the section this Mr Plod was riding was

definitely

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no motor vehicles with no exceptions.

So if he was riding a pedal cycle (presumably without a motor) he was not
riding a motor vehicle.

If he had have been riding a horse (with or without cart) he would also have
not been on a motor vehicle.

The problem comes when you then start looking at electric
wheelchairs/scooters etc which technically are motor vehicles.

What about prams/pushchairs that are vehicles but generally not motorised.

Seriously though, if a pedestrianised area is not to be used for cycles then
there should be a sign saying so - most ped areas do not have such a sign.

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I nearly handed him a cycle training leaflet ;-)

John B

DaveB
West Yorks

Wear a horse hair shirt, flagellate and scourge yourself. Eat only
stale bread and drink only water for ten days; then and only then will
you expunge this inner grief and guilt.

PhilD said:

Yesterday evening I ran a red light. I didn't mean to.

I was riding my Raleigh Sports (weight: feels like solid lead; brakes:
calipers) in pouring rain (well, I had to get home) when a pedestrian
activated the lights (fair do's, no problem with that). Yanked the
brake levers, feet scuffing the road surface, shot through.

Fortunately, the pedestrian was on the other side of the road, hadn't
stepped out anyway, and was also paying attention to what was going on
(why can't they all do that?).

"Sorry", I called to the pedestrian. "Well, you did try", she replied,
which was nice. Still shouldn't have gone through in the first place,
though.

I reckon I'd personally be more ashamed about and afraid of my brakes
not working like that!!!

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A couple of days ago I overtook a lady on a bike. That is, she was
cycling, I was walking my bike as I was about to go into a
pedestrianised area. For some reason, that was kind of embarassing,
too.

LOL, yeah totally!

Dave said:

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Of course you are right. In winchester various parts of the centre have
differing restrictions - but the section this Mr Plod was riding was

definitely

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no motor vehicles with no exceptions.

So if he was riding a pedal cycle (presumably without a motor) he was not
riding a motor vehicle.

Apologies, my fault.
The are he was riding in is designated and signed as 'no vehicles'.

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Seriously though, if a pedestrianised area is not to be used for cycles then
there should be a sign saying so - most ped areas do not have such a sign.

This section has the blank white circle edged in red , with a plate saying
Pedestrian Zone.

John B

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I know what you mean. I've occasionally passed elderly joggers - when
I'm walking! You feel like you shouldn't be doing that!

Years ago I was trying to go up Wrynose or Hardknott - CR which - in a
roof-of-a-house gear when I was overtaken by fellrunners. I looked back
and there was loads of them, a race. I dismounted and started walking
fairly fast. No more passed me.

I so much wanted to re-overtake the leaders down the other side, but
of course they turned onto the fells.

In article <[email hidden]>,

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Years ago I was trying to go up Wrynose or Hardknott - CR which - in a
roof-of-a-house gear when I was overtaken by fellrunners. I looked back
and there was loads of them, a race. I dismounted and started walking
fairly fast. No more passed me.

On the recent Invicta 200 I was busy grovelling up the "bit of a
stinker" ((c) davek) out of Canterbury. Being overtaken by a young
woman walking briskly along the pavement...

At which point a motorcar overtook, and the passenger dropped a bunch of
keys out of the window. The car drove about another 50 yards up the
road and stopped. Said young woman reached the car, and engaged in
earnest conversation with those therein. Her attention having been
distracted by her iPod, she had not noticed the falling keys, so it was
lucky for all concerned that Captain Slow here /had/ noticed them, and
was close enough to the ground to pick up the keys without having to
stop.

See? A happy ending! Altogether now: Aaaaaaaaaaaaah!

--
Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
God was my co-pilot, but we crashed in the mountains and I had to eat
Him.

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Yesterday evening I ran a red light. I didn't mean to.

I was riding my Raleigh Sports (weight: feels like solid lead; brakes:
calipers) in pouring rain (well, I had to get home) when a pedestrian
activated the lights (fair do's, no problem with that). Yanked the
brake levers, feet scuffing the road surface, shot through.

When it's raining, I use the technique of keeping the rear brake blocks just
touching the rim, with light pressure on the brake lever. That keeps them
clear enough to be able to brake effectively. It does slow you down
slightly, but that's better than flattening peds.

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Peter Clinch said:

John B wrote:

> It seems the rules about no cycling in pedestrianised zones don't

apply to

Quoted message said:

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> them.

Though check for what "pedestrianised" means in specific cases.
Dundee's pedestrianised zone is mostly actually "no motor vehicles"
(except for loading etc. exceptions), so cycling is mostly legal (there
are bits of pure pavement in there too).

Of course you are right. In winchester various parts of the centre have
differing restrictions - but the section this Mr Plod was riding was

definitely

Quoted message said:

no motor vehicles with no exceptions.

So if he was riding a pedal cycle (presumably without a motor) he was not
riding a motor vehicle.

If he had have been riding a horse (with or without cart) he would also
have
not been on a motor vehicle.

The problem comes when you then start looking at electric
wheelchairs/scooters etc which technically are motor vehicles.

What about prams/pushchairs that are vehicles but generally not motorised.

Seriously though, if a pedestrianised area is not to be used for cycles
then
there should be a sign saying so - most ped areas do not have such a sign.

The high street in Slough has one of these signs, but no one seems to take
any notice!

Alan

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Yesterday evening I ran a red light. I didn't mean to.

I was riding my Raleigh Sports (weight: feels like solid lead; brakes:
calipers) in pouring rain (well, I had to get home) when a pedestrian
activated the lights (fair do's, no problem with that). Yanked the
brake levers, feet scuffing the road surface, shot through.

When it's raining, I use the technique of keeping the rear brake blocks
just touching the rim, with light pressure on the brake lever. That keeps
them clear enough to be able to brake effectively. It does slow you down
slightly, but that's better than flattening peds.

That's a good idea. I wish I had thought of that!

Alan

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