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Re: Humans are herbiivores

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  1. When you display dishonest behavior in avoiding a valid discussion of the
    facts, how do you think others think of you? Just changing the subject
    title does not address the following:

    A vegetarian scientist
    debunks all the humans not natural omnivores
    claims:

    http://www.purifymind.com/HumansOmnivores.htm

    In part he concludes:

    Humans are classic examples of omnivores in all relevant anatomical
    A traits. There is no basis in anatomy or physiology for the assumption
    that humans are pre-adapted to the vegetarian diet. For that reason,
    the best arguments in support of a meat-free diet remain ecological,
    ethical, and health concerns.

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    Meat Industry's Fat Lies

    The meat and dairy industries have spent many millions of
    dollars to promote the belief that carbohydrates, such as
    potatoes, bread and pasta are the real culprits that
    cause excess weight gain. But literally thousands of
    impartial studies have shown this to have no basis in
    fact. Due to their high fat content, meats are far indeed
    from "calorie conscious."

    The renowned Harvard nutritionist, Dr. Jean Mayer,
    explained the matter this way:

    In becoming a vegetarian, you will eat a greater
    percentage of your calories from cereal grains, dried
    beans and peas, potatoes and pasta -- the very foods most
    dieters avoid with zeal. And you will lose weight.

    Because people eating the standard American diet eat such
    a very high percentage of their calories as fat, most of
    them fight a never-ending "battle of the bulge." But
    obesity is not merely an aesthetic issue. It has been
    found to be a significant co-factor in all the
    degenerative diseases that cripple and kill modern man.

    The obese, and to a lesser but still significant extent
    the overweight, have higher rates of heart disease,
    diabetes, liver disorders, gallbladder disease, cancer,
    arthritis, and virtually every other degenerative
    disease. Infant mortality rates are far higher for babies
    born to obese mothers. Obese teenagers have a life
    expectancy that is 15 years shorter than normal.

    Clinically, the term "obesity" refers to excessive levels
    of body-fat. It is, quite literally, a case of being fat.

    -From a clinical standpoint, the body weight most of us
    think as "normal" is anything but healthy. As one
    authority wrote:

    A teenager who remains 20% under the normal weight enjoys
    a 15-year increase over and above normal life expectancy.
    Lower than normal weight is also associated with marked
    reductions in the incidence of cancer, cardiovascular
    disease, diabetes, and other degenerative diseases. In a
    very real sense, then, U.S. and European weight standards
    are excessive, and the overwhelming majority of Americans
    and Europeans are detrimentally overweight . . . The U.S.
    Public Health Service estimates 60 million Americans are
    overweight. In reality, the number of Americans who are
    above optimal weight may be three times the government
    estimate. [That is 3 out of 4 Americans.]

    When we realize that so-called "normal" weights are
    actually too high for optimum health, and a very high
    percentage of Americans are above even these weights, a
    picture emerges that is neither flattering nor healthy.
    What is considered "normal" in our culture is actually a
    moderate form of obesity.

    So, if you are concerned about your health and our
    environment, eliminate meat from your diet.

    o Mayer, J. and Goldberg, J., "Nutrition" (a syndicated
    column) Washington Post, July 26, 1981

    o Tartter, P., "Cholesterol and Obesity as Prognostic
    Factors..." Cancer, 47:2222, 1981

    o Donegan, W., "The Association of Body Weight with
    Recurrent Cancer...," Cancer, 41:1590, 1978 Editorial,
    "Obesity -- The Cancer Connection," Lancet, 1:1223, 1982

    o Hur, R., "Foor Reform: Our Desperate Need" Neidelburg
    Publishers, 1975, pg 74

    o Robbins, John, "Diet For A New America" Stillpoint
    Publishing, Walpole, N.H., 1987, pgs. 289-290

    Jai Maharaj
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    Om Shanti

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