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  1. Please help - herniated disk problem

    My cousin who is 51 years in California has a herniated disk. He has
    tried Vicodin, Hydrocortisone, Ice, methacarbamol, Naproxsyn etc. for
    the past 6 months. Also Steroids. No relief. Lots of pain. Waist to
    ankle. Pain keeps him awake at night at times.

    His MRI shows his herniated disk is very large and the neurosurgeon
    says it is too late for physical therapy.

    The neurosurgeon said he would do a microscopic surgery as an
    outpatient situation. That the actual surgery would last about .30
    minutes and he would walk out without any pain and without a
    wheelchair. He almost guarantees that there will be minimal pain after
    the surgery except for the stitches.

    He specializes in spice surgery and has been in business for almost 9
    years.

    He will make a one inch slit and swell the muscles so according to the
    doctor it will be minimally invasive. The total time in the hospital
    will be about 4 hours.

    So the questions are:
    - How dangerous is this surgery ?
    - How complicated is it ?
    - is the above method the latest and best available techniques or
    should he be using some other way to do the surgery
    - what are the negatives of such a Herniated disk surgery.
    - I went on the internet and there isn't any information on this
    surgeon, where and how can I find out about him
    - Since the Neuro Surgeon has only 9 years experience, is this
    sufficient or should he look for some one with more experience
    - once the surgery is done, what are the chances of this problem
    recurring ?
    - is that disk going to be weak after the surgery ?

    Please reply as soon as you can.

    Any information would very helpful and highly appreciated.

    Thanks in advance,
    Ava

  2. <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    Please help - herniated disk problem

    My cousin who is 51 years in California has a herniated disk. He has
    tried Vicodin, Hydrocortisone, Ice, methacarbamol, Naproxsyn etc. for
    the past 6 months. Also Steroids. No relief. Lots of pain. Waist to
    ankle. Pain keeps him awake at night at times.

    His MRI shows his herniated disk is very large and the neurosurgeon
    says it is too late for physical therapy.

    Quack. Fire him.

    Quoted message said:

    The neurosurgeon said he would do a microscopic surgery as an
    outpatient situation. That the actual surgery would last about .30
    minutes and he would walk out without any pain and without a
    wheelchair. He almost guarantees that there will be minimal pain after
    the surgery except for the stitches.

    No reputable surgeon would make such a guarantee.

    Quoted message said:

    He specializes in spice surgery and has been in business for almost 9
    years.

    He should stick to the spice surgery business.

    Quoted message said:

    He will make a one inch slit and swell the muscles so according to the
    doctor it will be minimally invasive. The total time in the hospital
    will be about 4 hours.

    Simple surgery. Success, as defined by the quality of life of the patient,
    variable.

    Quoted message said:

    So the questions are:
    - How dangerous is this surgery ?
    - How complicated is it ?
    - is the above method the latest and best available techniques or
    should he be using some other way to do the surgery
    - what are the negatives of such a Herniated disk surgery.
    - I went on the internet and there isn't any information on this
    surgeon, where and how can I find out about him
    - Since the Neuro Surgeon has only 9 years experience, is this
    sufficient or should he look for some one with more experience
    - once the surgery is done, what are the chances of this problem
    recurring ?
    - is that disk going to be weak after the surgery ?

    These are questions that should be answered by an ethical, competent,
    surgeon. I hope your cousin finds one.

    Quoted message said:

    Please reply as soon as you can.

    OK.

    Quoted message said:

    Any information would very helpful and highly appreciated.

    Killing turkeys causes winter.

    David

  3. Do NOT let them cut him, he'll never be the same. Find a good
    chiropractor.

    Quoted message said:

    Please help - herniated disk problem

    My cousin who is 51 years in California has a herniated disk. He has
    tried Vicodin, Hydrocortisone, Ice, methacarbamol, Naproxsyn etc. for
    the past 6 months. Also Steroids. No relief. Lots of pain. Waist to
    ankle. Pain keeps him awake at night at times.

    His MRI shows his herniated disk is very large and the neurosurgeon
    says it is too late for physical therapy.

    The neurosurgeon said he would do a microscopic surgery as an
    outpatient situation. That the actual surgery would last about .30
    minutes and he would walk out without any pain and without a
    wheelchair. He almost guarantees that there will be minimal pain after
    the surgery except for the stitches.

    He specializes in spice surgery and has been in business for almost 9
    years.

    He will make a one inch slit and swell the muscles so according to the
    doctor it will be minimally invasive. The total time in the hospital
    will be about 4 hours.

    So the questions are:
    - How dangerous is this surgery ?
    - How complicated is it ?
    - is the above method the latest and best available techniques or
    should he be using some other way to do the surgery
    - what are the negatives of such a Herniated disk surgery.
    - I went on the internet and there isn't any information on this
    surgeon, where and how can I find out about him
    - Since the Neuro Surgeon has only 9 years experience, is this
    sufficient or should he look for some one with more experience
    - once the surgery is done, what are the chances of this problem
    recurring ?
    - is that disk going to be weak after the surgery ?

    Please reply as soon as you can.

    Any information would very helpful and highly appreciated.

    Thanks in advance,
    Ava

  4. "David Cohen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    Please help - herniated disk problem

    My cousin who is 51 years in California has a herniated disk. He has
    tried Vicodin, Hydrocortisone, Ice, methacarbamol, Naproxsyn etc. for
    the past 6 months. Also Steroids. No relief. Lots of pain. Waist to
    ankle. Pain keeps him awake at night at times.

    His MRI shows his herniated disk is very large and the neurosurgeon
    says it is too late for physical therapy.

    Quack. Fire him.

    Quoted message said:

    The neurosurgeon said he would do a microscopic surgery as an
    outpatient situation. That the actual surgery would last about .30
    minutes and he would walk out without any pain and without a
    wheelchair. He almost guarantees that there will be minimal pain after
    the surgery except for the stitches.

    No reputable surgeon would make such a guarantee.

    Quoted message said:

    He specializes in spice surgery and has been in business for almost 9
    years.

    He should stick to the spice surgery business.

    Quoted message said:

    He will make a one inch slit and swell the muscles so according to the
    doctor it will be minimally invasive. The total time in the hospital
    will be about 4 hours.

    Simple surgery. Success, as defined by the quality of life of the patient,
    variable.

    Quoted message said:

    So the questions are:
    - How dangerous is this surgery ?
    - How complicated is it ?
    - is the above method the latest and best available techniques or
    should he be using some other way to do the surgery
    - what are the negatives of such a Herniated disk surgery.
    - I went on the internet and there isn't any information on this
    surgeon, where and how can I find out about him
    - Since the Neuro Surgeon has only 9 years experience, is this
    sufficient or should he look for some one with more experience
    - once the surgery is done, what are the chances of this problem
    recurring ?
    - is that disk going to be weak after the surgery ?

    These are questions that should be answered by an ethical, competent,
    surgeon. I hope your cousin finds one.

    Quoted message said:

    Please reply as soon as you can.

    OK.

    Quoted message said:

    Any information would very helpful and highly appreciated.

    Killing turkeys causes winter.


    Really? References?:

  5. Quoted message said:

    Please help - herniated disk problem

    My cousin who is 51 years in California has a herniated disk.

    [...]

    Ava, as you can probably tell, you're in the wrong place to get an
    intelligent answer. TWO PLUS TWO EQUALS FIVE! <--- See?

    Seriously, the following article might be helpful:
    http://www.emedicine.com/ent/topic784.htm

    And maybe this: http://www.drscore.com/?referId=1002

    No answers, but some more questions to ask:

    http://www.spineuniverse.com/displayarticle.php/article1773.html

    A second opinion is never a bad thing, right? Check with another
    surgeon/hospital about the therapy thing or questions about the
    surgery the first doc is recommending.

    Also check with a chiro in your area. The chiro I visit is in a small
    building, but it's always busy. His manner is positive, smart, and the
    results have always been good... great, in fact.

    Any doctor you visit should be willing to offer his credentials. So
    far as anecdotal evidence on the surgery aspect goes, my younger
    brother had a disk removed and gained relief from his back and leg
    pain. His recovery time was minimal. Best of luck with your decision.

    --
    Curt
    http://curtjames.com/

  6. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Please help - herniated disk problem

    My cousin who is 51 years in California has a herniated disk. He has
    tried Vicodin, Hydrocortisone, Ice, methacarbamol, Naproxsyn etc. for
    the past 6 months. Also Steroids. No relief. Lots of pain. Waist to
    ankle. Pain keeps him awake at night at times.

    Similar situation here, at least as it looks on paper. I'm now 51 but I
    had a laterally herniated L4-L5 8 years ago. I still have it but it's
    better. I work with and around it pretty well and have lifted in three
    PL meets over the last two years. "awake at night at times" isn't a lot
    of fun but it's better than what I had. I was on Percoset 24/7 and woke
    up whenever it wore off so I sort of sleep in several short stretches
    when I could. After 2 weeks of that, my back had calmed down enough
    where the doctor could actually perform a decent examination, and after
    another week, I got a cortisone shot which made a huge difference for
    me.

    You and your cousin should be doing some reading if you haven't already.
    Start with "Treat Your Own Back" by Robin McKenzie, and continue with
    anything by John E. Sarno.

    Quoted message said:

    His MRI shows his herniated disk is very large and the neurosurgeon
    says it is too late for physical therapy.

    Get a second opinion. Physical therapy sometimes isn't much fun - I had
    gotten off Percoset when I started mine and went back on it after the
    first PT session for several days - but it very often works if you do
    what they tell you. I had to do exercises on the hour, every hour I was
    awake for quite some time.

    Quoted message said:

    The neurosurgeon said he would do a microscopic surgery as an
    outpatient situation. That the actual surgery would last about .30
    minutes and he would walk out without any pain and without a
    wheelchair. He almost guarantees that there will be minimal pain after
    the surgery except for the stitches.

    The problem with the surgery is that it can be a better means to a
    lesser end. Some people who have it, even though they feel better
    sooner than they would without it, never return to full functionality in
    terms of athletics. I'd say if your cousin is the active type, try to
    avoid the surgery. If he's not, the surgery makes more sense although I
    still think it's best avoided if at all possible.

    Quoted message said:

    He specializes in spice surgery and has been in business for almost 9
    years.

    He will make a one inch slit and swell the muscles so according to the
    doctor it will be minimally invasive. The total time in the hospital
    will be about 4 hours.

    So the questions are:
    - How dangerous is this surgery ?
    - How complicated is it ?
    - is the above method the latest and best available techniques or
    should he be using some other way to do the surgery
    - what are the negatives of such a Herniated disk surgery.
    - I went on the internet and there isn't any information on this
    surgeon, where and how can I find out about him
    - Since the Neuro Surgeon has only 9 years experience, is this
    sufficient or should he look for some one with more experience
    - once the surgery is done, what are the chances of this problem
    recurring ?
    - is that disk going to be weak after the surgery ?

    You should get at least two opinions. My back doctor is an orthopedist
    who specializes in low back pain and he made it very clear that, even
    though I was a borderline case in those term (i.e., if my injury had
    been any worse, I would have had no choice but to have the surgery),
    avoiding surgery is the best thing to do, at least at first. If you
    feel you've given it your best effort and still want the surgery, that
    option is usually still available.

    You and your cousin should be doing some reading if you haven't already.
    Start with "Treat Your Own Back" by Robin McKenzie, and continue with
    anything by John E. Sarno - gee, did I say that before? Well, it's
    important.

    -S-
    http://www.kbnj.com

  7. Steve Freides said:

    I'm now 51 but I
    had a laterally herniated L4-L5 8 years ago.

    That's what you get from playing with your balls all the time.

  8. "Steve Freides" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    You and your cousin should be doing some reading if you haven't already.
    Start with "Treat Your Own Back" by Robin McKenzie, and continue with
    anything by John E. Sarno - gee, did I say that before? Well, it's
    important.


    Howard Stern's doctor? Was it all in your head?

  9. "ATP*" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "Steve Freides" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    You and your cousin should be doing some reading if you haven't
    already. Start with "Treat Your Own Back" by Robin McKenzie, and
    continue with anything by John E. Sarno - gee, did I say that before?
    Well, it's important.


    Howard Stern's doctor?

    I don't know.

    Quoted message said:

    Was it all in your head?

    No. Sarno did nothing for me but I think it's worthwhile reading
    nonetheless. I know many people who've been helped by his approach. I
    have noticed that I do sometimes feel life's stresses in my back but for
    me, at least, it's a relatively minor variation.

    -S-
    http://www.kbnj.com

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