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Determining LT

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  1. As I indicated, the Conconi is useless. However, in theory, it gives you your anaerobic threshold
    HR. What direct use that is to training is debatable. I no longer ascribe to threshold training over
    other intensities. There is no best training intensity.

    CH

    "trg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    I have a pretty good idea of where the line is for me in terms of max HR at which I can do an
    hour on the trainer. If I work at 5bpm more, I can't sustain. Will the conconi give me more info
    than this?

    Thanks

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    In article <[email hidden]>, chris <[email hidden]>

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    That's because the test is garbage. Conconi manipulated his data in such a way to get a near
    perfect correlation. Having read some 20 papers, including a review of all the validation
    studies, no one can adequately repeat his study. Interestingly enough, Conconi has never had a
    problem repeating it.

    A very good way is to ride a one 1 hr TT, flat out (a windtrainer works best to allow for
    consistancy). You'll be riding at or near maximal lactate stedy state (MLSS) - the highest
    power where blood lactate remains stable; MLSS is typically what most people think of as
    lactate threshold. In comparison, LT can really be any number of points (eg, power at 1 mM,
    2.5 mM, 4 mM). Coyle defined LT as a 1 mM increase above baseline lactate.

    I don't diasagree about the usefulness of a Conconi but the poster said he can't measure power
    so all he has is something like a Conconi, or if he can bear to do a one hour TT on a wind
    trainer he might get something useful.

    -WG

  2. In article <[email hidden]>, chris

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    In my experience, indoor testing with ample fluids and a high power fan does a great job
    mitigating CV drift. However, so good AC helps even more. I typically saw about a 3-5 beat
    increase over 1 hr.

    Motivation is an issue, though, and HR in and of itself is not completely reliable, but I still
    believe HR, speed and cadence (not to mention perceived exertion) taken together offers a good way
    to monitor training, just not as good as power.

    Can't we use all of them?

    -WG

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