Jamlady question

In article <[email hidden]>,

notbob said:

Barb,

Why is it that a newly opened jar of jam or jelly is of a nice
solid, gelatinized consistency and then after a couple days it loosens
up into a free-flowing goop. I keep my j/j's in the fridge. Is this
the problem or is it just the nature of the beast?

nb

Totally free-flowing? Like liquefied? Ida Know.
If it's 'weeping', that's called syneresis and is due to too much acid
which makes the pectin unstable.
Liquefied, Ida Know. Are you licking the poon and putting it back into
the jar? I think saliva can break stuff down. Maybe that's your
problem?
Fridge is where they belong once opened.
--
-Barb
<http://jamlady.eboard.com> Updated 3-30-2006 Enchiladas for Two

"If it's not worth doing to excess, it's not worth doing at all."

Melba's Jammin said:

Totally free-flowing? Like liquefied? Ida Know.

Well no, not exactly liquid. You know, kinda gloppy, like lumpy, but
slidding off the knife kinda loose. Not at all like a freshly opened
jar of jelly or jam, which is stiff and retains it's shape. C'mon,
your jellies are no different. No I don't put my "saliva" back in the
jar! ...with any product. Ick!

Quoted message said:

If it's 'weeping', that's called syneresis and is due to too much acid
which makes the pectin unstable.

If "syneresis" makes pectin unstable and this is normal, no problem.
I just wanted to know the cause. Sounds like the answer I was seeking.

Quoted message said:

Fridge is where they belong once opened.

Figured as much. Thnx. 😉

nb

In article <[email hidden]>,

notbob said:

Melba's Jammin said:

Totally free-flowing? Like liquefied? Ida Know.

Well no, not exactly liquid. You know, kinda gloppy, like lumpy, but
slidding off the knife kinda loose. Not at all like a freshly opened
jar of jelly or jam, which is stiff and retains it's shape. C'mon,
your jellies are no different.

I wouldn't know -- I never eat them. :-P

Quoted message said:

No I don't put my "saliva" back in the
jar! ...with any product. Ick!

Well, jeez, you doesn't have to be so touchy about it. :-P :-P

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

If it's 'weeping', that's called syneresis and is due to too much acid
which makes the pectin unstable.

If "syneresis" makes pectin unstable and this is normal, no problem.
I just wanted to know the cause. Sounds like the answer I was seeking.

Y'know when you open some yogurt or sour cream and there's some water in
it next time you look? Syneresis.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Fridge is where they belong once opened.

Figured as much. Thnx. 😉

Hey, I'm so "so called jam queen." Pfftt! zxcvbob or pastorio could
probably tell you more than me. But I'm cuter'n both of them put
together. And better-natured, too. <=8o)

--
-Barb
<http://jamlady.eboard.com> Updated 3-30-2006 Enchiladas for Two

"If it's not worth doing to excess, it's not worth doing at all."

notbob said:

No I don't put my "saliva" back in the
jar! ...with any product. Ick!

Who knew? :

[discussion on a Chicago food board about Velveeta and Cheez Whiz...]

http://lthforum.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=7683&highlight=kraft

"Actually, the stuff in the aerosol has always been "Easy Cheese," and Cheez
Whiz is and always has been the stuff in a jar. Now in designer flavors! I
once sat behind two Kraft food designers on a Metra (Chicago commuter) train
and eavesdropped on their lengthy discussion of how they worked out a
particular "kink" in a cheese spread product. Specifically, in testing it,
they found that the saliva that kept getting put back into the jars by the
users made the stuff toughen up and become unusable (I'll let you use your
imagination on that one). Rather than drop the product in the name of all
that is holy, they instead came up with some kind of miracle additive to
prevent saliva-induced coagulation of the product. Kinda makes you think,
doesn't it.
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JILS, that's a *wonderful* ( = "awful"😉 story. Saliva's got enzymes (?
amylase?) that are extremely rapid starch breaker-downers. So I guess that
when you lick that spoon real good and repeatedly as you spoon the goop out,
there'll be enough blowback to start unravelling the longer starch chains...

Truly 'better living through chemistry'. :^ )
-----

Just to clarify, these folks were actually referring to users licking their
fingers and dipping them back into the jar, but I suppose the principle is
the same. It is apparent that Kraft has no romantic illusions about its
customers and their proclivities. That kind of pragmatism is bracing and
strangely reassuring."

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On Sun, 02 Apr 2006 05:35:16 GMT, "Gregory Morrow"
<[email hidden]>
quoted:

Quoted message said:

"Specifically, in testing it,
they found that the saliva that kept getting put back into the jars by the
users made the stuff toughen up and become unusable (I'll let you use your
imagination on that one). Rather than drop the product in the name of all
that is holy, they instead came up with some kind of miracle additive to
prevent saliva-induced coagulation of the product."

I had heard that saliva actually breaks it down and makes it
runnier. It does that with several dairy-based, processed foods
products usually in jars.

Maybe they got carried away with the anti-coagulant and now it has
the opposite effect.

-sw

On Sat, 01 Apr 2006 09:31:49 -0600, notbob <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Why is it that a newly opened jar of jam or jelly is of a nice
solid, gelatinized consistency and then after a couple days it loosens
up into a free-flowing goop. I keep my j/j's in the fridge. Is this
the problem or is it just the nature of the beast?

I keep wondering why my peanut butter always has swipes in it
exactly the size of my pointer finger.

-sw

Steve Wertz said:

I keep wondering why my peanut butter always has swipes in it
exactly the size of my pointer finger.

That sounds scary! How long have you been noticing this? Is the
peanut butter creamy or chunky?

I don't think I'll be able to sleep tonight.

Peace,
Carol

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Quoted message said:

On Sat, 01 Apr 2006 09:31:49 -0600, notbob <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Why is it that a newly opened jar of jam or jelly is of a nice
solid, gelatinized consistency and then after a couple days it loosens
up into a free-flowing goop. I keep my j/j's in the fridge. Is this
the problem or is it just the nature of the beast?

I keep wondering why my peanut butter always has swipes in it
exactly the size of my pointer finger.

LOL

Steve Wertz said:

On Sat, 01 Apr 2006 09:31:49 -0600, notbob <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Why is it that a newly opened jar of jam or jelly is of a nice
solid, gelatinized consistency and then after a couple days it loosens
up into a free-flowing goop. I keep my j/j's in the fridge. Is this
the problem or is it just the nature of the beast?

I keep wondering why my peanut butter always has swipes in it
exactly the size of my pointer finger.

-sw

Sometimes that is due to taking Ambien. Apparently taking it can lead to
binge eating during your sleep (plus weight gain). It was in the paper
last week (*before* April 1st). Or did I read about ti in this ng? Can't
remember.

Not to say that I think you're taking Ambie. But if you are, go get a
refund for the PB from the Ambien people 🙂

On Sun, 02 Apr 2006 22:25:46 +0200, jake <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Steve Wertz said:

On Sat, 01 Apr 2006 09:31:49 -0600, notbob <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Why is it that a newly opened jar of jam or jelly is of a nice
solid, gelatinized consistency and then after a couple days it loosens
up into a free-flowing goop. I keep my j/j's in the fridge. Is this
the problem or is it just the nature of the beast?

I keep wondering why my peanut butter always has swipes in it
exactly the size of my pointer finger.

-sw

Sometimes that is due to taking Ambien.

I was going to mention this. I had taken it a few times in the
last month or so. They don't seem to do anything except that I do
notice that I'm not hungry when I wake up.

-sw

In article <[email hidden]>,

Steve Wertz said:

On Sat, 01 Apr 2006 09:31:49 -0600, notbob <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Why is it that a newly opened jar of jam or jelly is of a nice
solid, gelatinized consistency and then after a couple days it loosens
up into a free-flowing goop. I keep my j/j's in the fridge. Is this
the problem or is it just the nature of the beast?

I keep wondering why my peanut butter always has swipes in it
exactly the size of my pointer finger.

-sw

You finger, huh? Right. "-)
--
-Barb
<http://jamlady.eboard.com> Updated 3-30-2006 Enchiladas for Two

"If it's not worth doing to excess, it's not worth doing at all."

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Sometimes that is due to taking Ambien.

I was going to mention this. I had taken it a few times in the
last month or so. They don't seem to do anything except that I do
notice that I'm not hungry when I wake up.

-sw

And does you fridge look any emptier in the morning?