Subway diet report

"Donal Fagan" <Donal@DonalO'Fagan.com> wrote in message
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I started my new Subway diet. 12" chicken salad
w/ provolone lettuce, tomato and pickles on whole wheat. Also three M&M cookies and a large
lime-flavored iced tea.

We'll see how it goes.

Donal Fagan AIA Donal@DonalO'Fagan.com (Anglicise the name to reply by e-mail)

That sounds like 5000 calories in one sitting!! 8-o

In the United States, the number of cases of cancer is expected to double by the year 2050
(Sullivan,KM, Duke University in Hem/Onc Today, Aug. 2003). Currently, 90,000 cancer deaths per year
are attributed to the combination of overweight and obesity, independent of other causes (Callee, EE
et al New Engl J Med 348:1623,2003). Won't go into heart disease, stroke, diabetes, etc.

I used to get upset when I saw people smoking and overeating. Then I got smart.

Now I just think: "Ahh, ....new business."

Just like Garrison Keillor, I've decided to become a nouveau Republican.

Larry Weisenthal

Certitude is poison; curiosity is life

Donal Fagan Donal@DonalO'Fagan.com said:

I started my new Subway diet. 12" chicken salad
w/ provolone lettuce, tomato and pickles on whole wheat. Also three M&M cookies and a large
lime-flavored iced tea.

We'll see how it goes.

Donal Fagan AIA Donal@DonalO'Fagan.com (Anglicise the name to reply by e-mail)

I figure that's around 2000 calories. You should do fine if you just work in 4000-5000 yd
swim everyday. You'll even have room for a breakfast and dinner.

~Matt

Donal Fagan <Donal@DonalO'Fagan.com> wrote in message
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I started my new Subway diet. 12" chicken salad
w/ provolone lettuce, tomato and pickles on whole wheat. Also three M&M cookies and a large
lime-flavored iced tea.

We'll see how it goes.

The Subways in Japan have 12" on the menu, but nobody ever orders them--it would be considered
glutonous. They had a 4" version for a while, and the lunch boxes come with two 3" sandwiches. It's
truly a shock to return to the U.S. and see the serving sizes in restaurants.

Japanese love to feel self-righteously superior in the area of diet, and the latest fad among
television shows is to profile some hideously obese American. They showed a guy who can't leave his
house because he's bigger than the doorway. He lives in a hospital bed in the living room, and has
remote controls for everything. There was another show that profiled a mother and two daughers, all
of whom were over 500 pounds. They need special industrial scales to weigh themselves.

There are also shows profiling crime and poverty and riots and what not. It gets really annoying ...
but I think they have a point about the U.S. diet.

Recently the North Korean developments have resulting in a lot of shows analyzing North Korean
television, which can be intercepted and recorded in Japan. The Japanese are shocked at the bizarre
propaganda about the rest of the world that is shown on North Korean television, but there is a
certain similarity to some ot the stuff shown about the U.S. on Japanese TV.

Donal Fagan said:

I started my new Subway diet. 12" chicken salad
w/ provolone lettuce, tomato and pickles on whole wheat. Also three M&M cookies and a large
lime-flavored iced tea.

To Atkins-ize this, I think all you have to do is throw away the bun. And the cookies, of course. Do
they even sell M&M cookies at Subway?

martin

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P.O. Box 482 mob. : +47 932 48 303 1327 Lysaker, Norway

Well you have to admit that, if nothing else, it's a tasty way to die....

--Mike

Larry Weisenthal said:

In the United States, the number of cases of cancer is expected to double by the year 2050
(Sullivan,KM, Duke University in Hem/Onc Today, Aug. 2003). Currently, 90,000 cancer deaths
per year are attributed to the combination of overweight and obesity, independent of other
causes (Callee, EE et al New Engl J Med 348:1623,2003). Won't go into heart disease, stroke,
diabetes, etc.

I used to get upset when I saw people smoking and overeating. Then I got smart.

Now I just think: "Ahh, ....new business."

Just like Garrison Keillor, I've decided to become a nouveau Republican.

Larry Weisenthal

Certitude is poison; curiosity is life

MJuric said:

I figure that's around 2000 calories. You should do fine if you just work in 4000-5000 yd swim
everyday. You'll even have room for a breakfast and dinner.

Pretty close: 900 = 2x450 six-inch chicken salad 480 = 3x160 cookie 360 = 4x90 lime tea 1740 total

Sorry Jared, I fell off the Subway wagon today.

Breakfast was grapes. Not sour, just seedless.

Our tomatoes were ripe, so I had tomato sandwiches on pumpernickel, a small bag of carrots, chunky
applesauce and zucchini cake. And more lime tea.

Dinner was tilapia fish, butter noodles and corn on the cob. And a dark chocolate Klondike.

Donal Fagan AIA Donal@DonalO'Fagan.com (Anglicise the name to reply by e-mail)

Julia Child is still alive at 101 years of age and you know what she ate every day. No porridge for
her ever. Her Motto is "everything in moderation." Plus it has to taste good. I don't think she ate
hogies from Subway however. She had more sensitive taste buds than you seem to have. Do you really
think that stuff from Subway tastes good? Yuck.

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Well you have to admit that, if nothing else, it's a tasty way to die....

--Mike

Larry Weisenthal said:

In the United States, the number of cases of cancer is expected to double by the year 2050
(Sullivan,KM, Duke University in Hem/Onc Today, Aug. 2003). Currently, 90,000 cancer deaths
per year are attributed to the combination of overweight and obesity, independent of other
causes (Callee, EE et al New Engl J Med 348:1623,2003). Won't go into heart disease, stroke,
diabetes, etc.

I used to get upset when I saw people smoking and overeating. Then I got smart.

Now I just think: "Ahh, ....new business."

Just like Garrison Keillor, I've decided to become a nouveau Republican.

Larry Weisenthal

Certitude is poison; curiosity is life

I like their tuna sandwiches, but I get a 4" round, not a foot-long. No chips or cookies, no cheese,
no mayo...

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Julia Child is still alive at 101 years of age and you know what she ate every day. No porridge
for her ever. Her Motto is "everything in moderation." Plus it has to taste good. I don't think
she ate hogies from Subway however. She had more sensitive taste buds than you seem to have. Do
you really think that stuff from Subway tastes good? Yuck.

Mike Edey <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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Well you have to admit that, if nothing else, it's a tasty way to

die....

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--Mike

Larry Weisenthal said:

In the United States, the number of cases of cancer is expected to

double by

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the year 2050 (Sullivan,KM, Duke University in Hem/Onc Today, Aug.

2003).

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Currently, 90,000 cancer deaths per year are attributed to the

combination of

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overweight and obesity, independent of other causes (Callee, EE et al

New Engl

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J Med 348:1623,2003). Won't go into heart disease, stroke, diabetes,

etc.

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I used to get upset when I saw people smoking and overeating. Then I

got

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smart.

Now I just think: "Ahh, ....new business."

Just like Garrison Keillor, I've decided to become a nouveau

Republican.

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Larry Weisenthal

Certitude is poison; curiosity is life

(Dory) said:

Do you really think that stuff from Subway tastes good?

I wouldn't put one up against the Iron Chefs, but yes, Subway's subs (hoagies, grinders, torpedoes,
whatever) are pretty good compared to a lot of fast food. Their main problem seems to be getting
decent lettuce and tomato. A lot of store-bought tomato is tasteless.

Around here, Sheetz convenience stores make a pretty good sub, too. I used to bring my stepdaughter
for a Sheetz tuna sandwich after every swim team practice.

Donal Fagan AIA Donal@DonalO'Fagan.com (Anglicise the name to reply by e-mail)

If people spent the same amount of energy on anything else that they spend on evaluating what other
people eat, imagine the problems that could be solved.

Some small people have high metabolisms and eat a lot. Some large people eat very little. When you
see someone eating, you don't know what they had for their last meal, or what they have been eating
for the rest of their lives..

Also, a smaller BMI is considered obese for Asian people, so it is a good thing that the Japanese
are not eating 12" subs.

Chris said:

Donal Fagan <Donal@DonalO'Fagan.com> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I started my new Subway diet. 12" chicken salad
w/ provolone lettuce, tomato and pickles on whole wheat. Also three M&M cookies and a large
lime-flavored iced tea.

We'll see how it goes.

The Subways in Japan have 12" on the menu, but nobody ever orders them--it would be considered
glutonous. They had a 4" version for a while, and the lunch boxes come with two 3" sandwiches.
It's truly a shock to return to the U.S. and see the serving sizes in restaurants.

Japanese love to feel self-righteously superior in the area of diet, and the latest fad among
television shows is to profile some hideously obese American. They showed a guy who can't leave
his house because he's bigger than the doorway. He lives in a hospital bed in the living room, and
has remote controls for everything. There was another show that profiled a mother and two
daughers, all of whom were over 500 pounds. They need special industrial scales to weigh
themselves.

There are also shows profiling crime and poverty and riots and what not. It gets really annoying
... but I think they have a point about the U.S. diet.

Recently the North Korean developments have resulting in a lot of shows analyzing North Korean
television, which can be intercepted and recorded in Japan. The Japanese are shocked at the
bizarre propaganda about the rest of the world that is shown on North Korean television, but there
is a certain similarity to some ot the stuff shown about the U.S. on Japanese TV.

Martin W. Smith said:

Do they even sell M&M cookies at Subway?

All the ones I've been to sell a variety of large homemade-style cookies.

Donal Fagan AIA Donal@DonalO'Fagan.com (Anglicise the name to reply by e-mail)

I was really surprised when I watched the Walt Disney/Japanese movie "Spirited Away" to see that the
American parents of the little girl were greedy, very fat people. That seems to be the role most
Americans have accepted for themselves today. Gluttony is not a word Americans understand. I don't
even think it is in the standard vocabulary.

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The Subways in Japan have 12" on the menu, but nobody ever orders them--it would be considered
glutonous. They had a 4" version for a while, and the lunch boxes come with two 3" sandwiches.
It's truly a shock to return to the U.S. and see the serving sizes in restaurants.

Japanese love to feel self-righteously superior in the area of diet, and the latest fad among
television shows is to profile some hideously obese American. They showed a guy who can't leave
his house because he's bigger than the doorway. He lives in a hospital bed in the living room, and
has remote controls for everything. There was another show that profiled a mother and two
daughers, all of whom were over 500 pounds. They need special industrial scales to weigh
themselves.

There are also shows profiling crime and poverty and riots and what not. It gets really annoying
... but I think they have a point about the U.S. diet.

Recently the North Korean developments have resulting in a lot of shows analyzing North Korean
television, which can be intercepted and recorded in Japan. The Japanese are shocked at the
bizarre propaganda about the rest of the world that is shown on North Korean television, but there
is a certain similarity to some ot the stuff shown about the U.S. on Japanese TV.

Chris said:

Japanese love to feel self-righteously superior in the area of diet, and the latest fad among
television shows is to profile some hideously obese American. They showed a guy who can't leave his
house because he's bigger than the doorway.

And yet they glorify their sumo wrestlers above all else. There may be a good amount of muscle and
power underneath all that blubber, but it certainly is a bit at odds with this.

As for the ribbing, eh, we can handle it. We poke as much fun of everyone else.
--
Jason O'Rourke www.jor.com

Donal Fagan said:

Martin W. Smith said:

Do they even sell M&M cookies at Subway?

All the ones I've been to sell a variety of large homemade-style cookies.

How do they integrate that into their turkey-sandwitch-diet marketing campaign?

martin

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Martin Smith email: [email hidden] Vollsveien 9 tel. : +47 6783 1188
P.O. Box 482 mob. : +47 932 48 303 1327 Lysaker, Norway

Martin W. Smith said:

How do they integrate that into their turkey-sandwitch-diet marketing campaign?

Other than a few sandwiches, they offer many items that aren't low-anything, like potato chips,
meatball subs, etc.

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Subway's 7 sandwiches with 6 grams of fat or less have a calorie range of 230-370 and have as little
as 3 grams of fat. Choosing one of these subs can save 140-340 calories and at least 24 grams of fat
in just one meal.

*Individuals lost weight by exercising and eating a balanced, reduced-calorie diet that included
SUBWAY® sandwiches with 6 grams of fat or less. Their results are not typical. Your loss if any will
vary. SUBWAY® Restaurants' does not endorse the diet Jared created and cautions anyone embarking on
a weight-loss plan to consult their physician. Vegetable servings based on guidelines set forth by
The National Cancer Institute.

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Donal Fagan AIA Donal@DonalO'Fagan.com (Anglicise the name to reply by e-mail)

(Chris) said:

Japanese love to feel self-righteously superior in the area of diet, and the latest fad among
television shows is to profile some hideously obese American.

Like, Akebono?

Donal Fagan AIA Donal@DonalO'Fagan.com (Anglicise the name to reply by e-mail)

(Larry Weisenthal) said:

And sometimes feelings of self-righteous superiority are richly deserved.

Doesn't sound too healthy. "Pride goeth," etc.

Donal Fagan AIA Donal@DonalO'Fagan.com (Anglicise the name to reply by e-mail)

Donal Fagan Donal@DonalO'Fagan.com said:

(Larry Weisenthal) said:

And sometimes feelings of self-righteous superiority are richly deserved.

Doesn't sound too healthy. "Pride goeth," etc.

More like "people who live in glass houses..."

Japanese culture has more than its share of deficiencies to be making too much fun of fat Yankees.

--
Jason O'Rourke www.jor.com