Dietary Guildlines

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Brent said:

Hello,

I'm attempting to find heart healthy and diabetic friendly guildlines
in the form of recommended daily nutritional values (e.g. fat,
saturated far, fibre etc.). The guildlines must be from an
authoratative source.

Also, is there a resource where I can find a definition of what is
considered a "Good Source of Fibre", or "Reduced/Low Sodium"?

Does anyone know where I may find such information? Any help would be
greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Brent

Protein Power, by the Eades.

Susan <just an appreciative reader>

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Brent said:

Hello,

I'm attempting to find heart healthy and diabetic friendly guildlines
in the form of recommended daily nutritional values (e.g. fat,
saturated far, fibre etc.). The guildlines must be from an
authoratative source.

Also, is there a resource where I can find a definition of what is
considered a "Good Source of Fibre", or "Reduced/Low Sodium"?

Does anyone know where I may find such information? Any help would be
greatly appreciated.

The Google Search engine.

If you cannot find that with Google,YOU are not trying very hard.

Cheers ...

Finding "sources" using Google is the easy part. Finding authoratative
sources is not so easy! Perhaps I should elaborate on my question and
ask what is considered to be the definitive source for such
information?

Respectfully,
Brent

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Brent said:

Finding "sources" using Google is the easy part. Finding authoratative
sources is not so easy! Perhaps I should elaborate on my question and
ask what is considered to be the definitive source for such
information?

Respectfully,
Brent

Okay, then read the bibliography for Protein Power. It's the only
scientifically accurate one of the popular diet books that I know of.

Susan

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Damn.

-and I thought I was done buying diet books..

🙂

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Brent said:

Finding "sources" using Google is the easy part. Finding authoratative
sources is not so easy! Perhaps I should elaborate on my question and
ask what is considered to be the definitive source for such
information?

Respectfully,
Brent

Okay, then read the bibliography for Protein Power. It's the only
scientifically accurate one of the popular diet books that I know of.

Susan

Brent said:

Finding "sources" using Google is the easy part. Finding authoratative
sources is not so easy! Perhaps I should elaborate on my question and
ask what is considered to be the definitive source for such
information?

Ha, ... Hah, Ha!

You can search Google on that question you know.

For me, I would simply restrict my searches to the educational domain

diabetes OR diabetic "dietary guidelines" site:.edu

or

diabetes OR diabetic "dietary interventions" site:.edu

You could also try the .gov and .org domains, for lower quality info.
--
John Gohde,
Achieving good Nutrition is an Art, NOT a Science!

The nutrition of eating a healthy diet is a biological factor of the
mind-body connection. Now, weighing in at 18 web pages, the
Nutrition of a Healthy Diet is with more documentation and
sharper terminology than ever before.
http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/

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Brent said:

Hello,

I'm attempting to find heart healthy and diabetic friendly guildlines
in the form of recommended daily nutritional values (e.g. fat,
saturated far, fibre etc.). The guildlines must be from an
authoratative source.

Also, is there a resource where I can find a definition of what is
considered a "Good Source of Fibre", or "Reduced/Low Sodium"?

Does anyone know where I may find such information? Any help would be
greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Brent

Peoples response to diet wrt to heart disease may be slightly different
depending upon the underlying metabolic problems reflected in a Berkeley
Blood panel or something similar. Check out Robert Superko's book
"Before the Heart Attacks" where he has slightly different amounts of
fat/carb/protein based on your lipid profile, particle sizes etc. You
do not have to have a Berkeley lipid profile done but the book will give
you an idea of what some of the issues are.

A generally good book on nutrition is probably Walter Willet's "Eat
drink and be healthy". Most of the recommendations are evidence based
and the useful thing is that the base of his pyramid starts with
exercise.

As a heart patient you will be advised to go on a low fat diet by some
sources and a good book examining why this might not be a good idea for
some people is "Low fat lies, High fat frauds" by Kevin Vigilante.

If you do not want to obsess just control the amount of food you eat
(try for a small energy deficit) and exercise. Combine this with trying
to eliminate as much saturated & trans fat and substitute with mono
unsaturated like olive and canola oil.

Roland

Brent said:

I'm attempting to find heart healthy and diabetic friendly guildlines
in the form of recommended daily nutritional values (e.g. fat,
saturated far, fibre etc.). The guildlines must be from an
authoratative source.

Try http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/healthy-diet/NU00200
(It's not very detailed, but it is a start.)

--
Ron

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Ron Peterson said:

Brent said:

I'm attempting to find heart healthy and diabetic friendly guildlines
in the form of recommended daily nutritional values (e.g. fat,
saturated far, fibre etc.). The guildlines must be from an
authoratative source.

Try http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/healthy-diet/NU00200
(It's not very detailed, but it is a start.)

It's total [censored]. For one thing, it confuses carbohydrates as synonymous
with glucose.

Susan

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Ron Peterson said:

Brent said:

I'm attempting to find heart healthy and diabetic friendly guildlines
in the form of recommended daily nutritional values (e.g. fat,
saturated far, fibre etc.). The guildlines must be from an
authoratative source.

Try http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/healthy-diet/NU00200
(It's not very detailed, but it is a start.)

It's total [censored]. For one thing, it confuses carbohydrates as synonymous
with glucose.

Susan

Hmmm. Let's see what else the great Mayo Clinic says...

"Saturated fat is the main dietary culprit in raising your blood cholesterol
and increasing your risk of coronary artery disease."

Not calories...not carbs...not trans-fat. There ya have it: Saturated fat =
heart disease.

"...fat is a very concentrated energy source, providing twice as many
calories per gram as carbohydrates and protein."

I have trouble understanding the significance of that. Let's invert it:
*...fat is very light, providing half as many grams per calorie as
carbohydrates and protein.* Nope, I still don't get it. Are grams good for
you? Do we need really heavy foods? Does the weight of food we consume
really matter that much?

"Recommendation: Limit fat to 20 percent to 35 percent of your daily
calories." Ah...that way you get more grams of food each day. But...is there
a study that shows that eating mostly light foods (low grams per calorie) is
healthy?

Good stuff. ;-)
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Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA [email hidden]

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Ron Peterson said:

Brent wrote:

>I'm attempting to find heart healthy and diabetic friendly guildlines
>in the form of recommended daily nutritional values (e.g. fat,
>saturated far, fibre etc.). The guildlines must be from an
>authoratative source.

Try http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/healthy-diet/NU00200
(It's not very detailed, but it is a start.)

It's total [censored]. For one thing, it confuses carbohydrates as synonymous
with glucose.

Susan

Hmmm. Let's see what else the great Mayo Clinic says...

"Saturated fat is the main dietary culprit in raising your blood cholesterol
and increasing your risk of coronary artery disease."

Not calories...not carbs...not trans-fat. There ya have it: Saturated fat =
heart disease.

"...fat is a very concentrated energy source, providing twice as many
calories per gram as carbohydrates and protein."

I have trouble understanding the significance of that. Let's invert it:
*...fat is very light, providing half as many grams per calorie as
carbohydrates and protein.* Nope, I still don't get it. Are grams good for
you? Do we need really heavy foods? Does the weight of food we consume
really matter that much?

"Recommendation: Limit fat to 20 percent to 35 percent of your daily
calories." Ah...that way you get more grams of food each day. But...is there
a study that shows that eating mostly light foods (low grams per calorie) is
healthy?

Good stuff. ;-)

It's even stoopider than that; what I didn't bother taking issue with
before is the "at least 130 grams of carbs per day" recommendation.
This is based upon absolute misunderstanding of human biochemistry.

They are going with the extreme high figure for brain glucose
requirements daily (100-130 grams, variably). Then they're saying you
need *at least* 130 grams of dietary carbohydate to meet it. This
despite the fact that 58% of dietary protein converts to glucose; there
is no essential carbohydrate in human nutrition.

Further, the brain will preferentially run on ketones when they're
available, bringing down the glucose requirement to 40-60 grams per day
within a few weeks. Brains run *better* on ketones, hence their use in
therapeutics, like epilepsy.

Susan

This is why I declined to make any specific recommendations.

smn is just crawling with Kooks, who are quick to attack anyone who
does not agree with their kooky ideas.

Brent, you should ignore these people.

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Quoted message said:

Hello,

I'm attempting to find heart healthy and diabetic friendly guildlines
in the form of recommended daily nutritional values (e.g. fat,
saturated far, fibre etc.). The guildlines must be from an
authoratative source.

Also, is there a resource where I can find a definition of what is
considered a "Good Source of Fibre", or "Reduced/Low Sodium"?

Does anyone know where I may find such information? Any help would be
greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Brent

go to the ftc or fda web sites. Since these are label claims, they are
regulated by the government.