Remember when that Japanese kid on Discovery had his stem come off? Remember when he allowed himself to slowly steer out of the group before he crashed so that everyone else got away clean?
That's precisely what George did yesterday. He couldn't steer so he sat up and held his arms out to balance the bike and steered it out of the group and so crashed alone. It demonstrated a level of expertise far away from most piddling players like those here.
Too bad so many professionals nitwits here, who don't spend more time riding than posting, couldn't see that.
Remember when that Japanese kid on Discovery had his stem come off? Remember when he allowed himself to slowly steer out of the group before he crashed so that everyone else got away clean?
That's precisely what George did yesterday. He couldn't steer so he sat up and held his arms out to balance the bike and steered it out of the group and so crashed alone. It demonstrated a level of expertise far away from most piddling players like those here.
Too bad so many professionals nitwits here, who don't spend more time riding than posting, couldn't see that.
You actually believe that Hincapie "steered" his bike to the side of the road so as to not crash any other riders???
MUCH more likely that he sat up in surprise, and the bike turned to the left as that's the way his wheel deflected after hitting the first cobble AFTER the steerer tube broke. On a smooth road he MAY have been able to influence the trajectory of his bike, but on the cobbles he was at the mercy of the stones. It was sheer dumb luck that he fell to the left and didn't crash anyone else.
Remember when that Japanese kid on Discovery had his stem come off? Remember when he allowed himself to slowly steer out of the group before he crashed so that everyone else got away clean?
That's precisely what George did yesterday. He couldn't steer so he sat up and held his arms out to balance the bike and steered it out of the group and so crashed alone. It demonstrated a level of expertise far away from most piddling players like those here.
Too bad so many professionals nitwits here, who don't spend more time riding than posting, couldn't see that.
You actually believe that Hincapie "steered" his bike to the side of the road so as to not crash any other riders???
MUCH more likely that he sat up in surprise, and the bike turned to the left as that's the way his wheel deflected after hitting the first cobble AFTER the steerer tube broke. On a smooth road he MAY have been able to influence the trajectory of his bike, but on the cobbles he was at the mercy of the stones. It was sheer dumb luck that he fell to the left and didn't crash anyone else.
You can see his head (behind the front riders) drop just as the steerer snapped - quite a feat not to lose it right there and surprising that he was able to sit up. It did look like he was trying to aim for the ditch after that (whether for a somewhat softer landing or to get out of the way or both) but it was probably just luck that he sort of got there without taking anyone else down.
An observation: - you mention homosexuals in pretty much every post. A different sort might try to point out that such behavior is almost always indicative of latent and frustrated desires...not that there's anything wrong with that.
A question: - when did you start awarding style points for crashing? A different sort might point out that such concern for all things stylistic is indicative of latent and frustrated desires.
Remember when that Japanese kid on Discovery had his stem come off? Remember when he allowed himself to slowly steer out of the group before he crashed so that everyone else got away clean?
That's precisely what George did yesterday. He couldn't steer so he sat up and held his arms out to balance the bike and steered it out of the group and so crashed alone. It demonstrated a level of expertise far away from most piddling players like those here.
Too bad so many professionals nitwits here, who don't spend more time riding than posting, couldn't see that.
You actually believe that Hincapie "steered" his bike to the side of the road so as to not crash any other riders???
MUCH more likely that he sat up in surprise, and the bike turned to the left as that's the way his wheel deflected after hitting the first cobble AFTER the steerer tube broke. On a smooth road he MAY have been able to influence the trajectory of his bike, but on the cobbles he was at the mercy of the stones. It was sheer dumb luck that he fell to the left and didn't crash anyone else.
You can see his head (behind the front riders) drop just as the steerer snapped - quite a feat not to lose it right there and surprising that he was able to sit up. It did look like he was trying to aim for the ditch after that (whether for a somewhat softer landing or to get out of the way or both) but it was probably just luck that he sort of got there without taking anyone else down.
I wouldn't confuse veering toward the ditch with steering toward the ditch. The cobbles sent Hincapie that way, not any miraculous bike handling skill he may or not possess.
Funny thing about the situation as Kunich describes it, you'd think that by virtue of putting in lot's of miles that Hincapie, or pros in general, would have some inate ability to deal with a broken steerer tube that the typical rider wouldn't have. Nonsense. Unless Hincapie as been specifically practicing falling off a bike with a broken steerer tube, he's no more experienced at it than you or I would be. 15,000 miles of riding every year does NOT prepare you for your first broken steerer tube. Hell, he barely had time to [censored] his pants before he was in the ditch, much less have time to influence the outcome of the crash.
On 10 Apr 2006 12:17:35 -0700, "RicodJour" <[email hidden]>
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A question: - when did you start awarding style points for crashing? A different sort might point out that such concern for all things stylistic is indicative of latent and frustrated desires.
When you crash a lot, you start to appreciate the little things. That and his latent desire to hold up cards.
Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on two wheels...
Don't demonstrate just what sort of Fred you really are. Pro riders fall off dozens of times a year. After falling for the last 13 years or more Hincapie has a hell of a lot more "inate ability" to remain calm and collected in a crash than some thinks-he-can. No names mentioned of course.
Don't demonstrate just what sort of Fred you really are. Pro riders fall off dozens of times a year. After falling for the last 13 years or more Hincapie has a hell of a lot more "inate ability" to remain calm and collected in a crash than some thinks-he-can. No names mentioned of course.
If he's such a good rider, how come he falls off so often? BTW, where do you get your stats that pro riders (I'm assuming you mean ALL pro riders) fall off dozens of times per year?
You're still an idiot if you think he inately steered his bike to the left side of the road to avoid crashing others. He had just about enough time to think "oh, [censored]" then he hit the deck. Period. The cobbles sent him to the left, although they could've just as easily sent him to the right.
But, hey, if you think someone who falls off a lot is a better bike handler than someone who falls off maybe once every couple of years (while riding in excess of 10,000 miles a year) then so be it.
Fred
p.s. I'm not a fred. My name's not even Fred, dumbass.
On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 15:40:02 -0400, Curtis L. Russell <[email hidden]>
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On 10 Apr 2006 12:17:35 -0700, "RicodJour" <[email hidden]>
Quoted message said:
A question: - when did you start awarding style points for crashing? A different sort might point out that such concern for all things stylistic is indicative of latent and frustrated desires.
When you crash a lot, you start to appreciate the little things. That and his latent desire to hold up cards.
Funny thing about the situation as Kunich describes it, you'd think that by virtue of putting in lot's of miles that Hincapie, or pros in general, would have some inate ability to deal with a broken steerer tube that the typical rider wouldn't have. Nonsense. Unless Hincapie as been specifically practicing falling off a bike with a broken steerer tube, he's no more experienced at it than you or I would be. 15,000 miles of riding every year does NOT prepare you for your first broken steerer tube. Hell, he barely had time to [censored] his pants before he was in the ditch, much less have time to influence the outcome of the crash.
Fred
Agreed. If Hincapie had been practicing this, he'd have already learned, the hard way, that he shouldn't have let go of the bars. I think they ended up in his front wheel causing the endo at the end of his crash. If he'd held on to the bars, he would have fallen on his hip instead of his shoulder. I wonder what was running though his mind at the time, "What the ... ?! Guess I don't need these any more".
Funny thing about the situation as Kunich describes it, you'd think that by virtue of putting in lot's of miles that Hincapie, or pros in general, would have some inate ability to deal with a broken steerer tube that the typical rider wouldn't have. Nonsense. Unless Hincapie as been specifically practicing falling off a bike with a broken steerer tube, he's no more experienced at it than you or I would be. 15,000 miles of riding every year does NOT prepare you for your first broken steerer tube. Hell, he barely had time to [censored] his pants before he was in the ditch, much less have time to influence the outcome of the crash.
Fred
Agreed. If Hincapie had been practicing this, he'd have already learned, the hard way, that he shouldn't have let go of the bars. I think they ended up in his front wheel causing the endo at the end of his crash. If he'd held on to the bars, he would have fallen on his hip instead of his shoulder. I wonder what was running though his mind at the time, "What the ... ?! Guess I don't need these any more".
Bret
If I remember, he had his hands on the tops when it broke, so it could be that the bars went rocketing away from him before he had a chance to grab on to 'em.
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