Saddle too wide?

Art said:

I can understand how a saddle can be too narrow - the
sit bones are not fully on the saddle. But how can a
saddle be too wide? What would it matter than there is
some extra saddle between the sit bones and the edge
of the saddle? I must be missing some understanding
on this subject.

Well, if the saddle's SHAPE were truly radical, then maybe it wouldn't
matter how wide it was in the rear (so to speak). However, with a typical
"teardrop" design, your thighs gotta go up and down and a wide platform is
going to cause friction or muscle pain or bruising (possibly all three).
Fore/aft positioning also comes into play, of course.

Bill "endless search for the 'perfect' saddle" S.

Art said:

I can understand how a saddle can be too narrow - the
sit bones are not fully on the saddle. But how can a
saddle be too wide? What would it matter than there is
some extra saddle between the sit bones and the edge
of the saddle? I must be missing some understanding
on this subject.

Art

How about your inner thighs rubbing against the saddle.

Lou
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Lou Holtman <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]:

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How about your inner thighs rubbing against the saddle.

Definately. The saddle will wear holes on the inside of your shorts and also
rub your skin raw. A too wide saddle may also not support your sit bones
very well, causing unnecessary pressure on that soft tissue between your
legs.

Per Art:

Quoted message said:

What would it matter than there is
some extra saddle between the sit bones and the edge
of the saddle? I must be missing some understanding
on this subject.

Thigh clearance on the downstroke. As you correctly observe, the extra width
where the sit bones connect doesn't matter. But that generates more width
between there and the nose of the saddle.

I think the people who have the most trouble in that area are the ones with both
wide sit bone spacing and very thick thighs.

I've got ungodly wide sit bones (5.25"😉, but legs like a stork - so I can
comfortably pedal something like a Brooks B-72 with little or now contention
between saddle and thighs.
--
PeteCresswell

Sorni said:

Bill "endless search for the 'perfect' saddle" S.

So, what's the verdict on the E3?

Life is Good!
Jeff

Jeff Starr said:

Sorni said:

Bill "endless search for the 'perfect' saddle" S.

So, what's the verdict on the E3?

It's the damnedest thing. Loved the ti version I bought for my Klein. Then
I bought a "light bike" (Madone SL frameset), so bought the heavier (gel)
version for the Klein so I could use the ti E3 on the Trek.

Never really liked the gel E3 (fit seems different from the ti), but
couldn't get the darned ti one dialed in on the Trek, either! (I stupidly
bought a "micro-adjust" seat post, and I'm in-between grooves, apparently.)

So now I just installed the Terry saddle I picked up for net 10 bucks on the
Trek, and will likely put the ti E3 back on the Klein and return the gel
version (it's like new still; only rode it 2 or 3 times).

Aaack.

Bill "sorry you asked?" S.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Sorni said:

Jeff Starr said:

Sorni said:

Bill "endless search for the 'perfect' saddle" S.

So, what's the verdict on the E3?

It's the damnedest thing. Loved the ti version I bought for my Klein. Then
I bought a "light bike" (Madone SL frameset), so bought the heavier (gel)
version for the Klein so I could use the ti E3 on the Trek.

Never really liked the gel E3 (fit seems different from the ti), but
couldn't get the darned ti one dialed in on the Trek, either! (I stupidly
bought a "micro-adjust" seat post, and I'm in-between grooves, apparently.)

Would you say more about the seat post? Up until now
`micro-adjust' meant to me that there is no perceptible
granularity. Are the grooves in the fore-aft position or
the tilt?

Quoted message said:

So now I just installed the Terry saddle I picked up for net 10 bucks on the
Trek, and will likely put the ti E3 back on the Klein and return the gel
version (it's like new still; only rode it 2 or 3 times).

Aaack.

--
Michael Press

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Quoted message said:

Jeff Starr said:

Sorni said:

Bill "endless search for the 'perfect' saddle" S.

So, what's the verdict on the E3?

It's the damnedest thing. Loved the ti version I bought for my Klein.

Then

Quoted message said:

I bought a "light bike" (Madone SL frameset), so bought the heavier (gel)
version for the Klein so I could use the ti E3 on the Trek.

Never really liked the gel E3 (fit seems different from the ti), but
couldn't get the darned ti one dialed in on the Trek, either! (I stupidly
bought a "micro-adjust" seat post, and I'm in-between grooves,

apparently.)

Quoted message said:

So now I just installed the Terry saddle I picked up for net 10 bucks on

the

Quoted message said:

Trek, and will likely put the ti E3 back on the Klein and return the gel
version (it's like new still; only rode it 2 or 3 times).

I've loved every WTB saddle I've ever owned. Currently on a Rocket V.

Greg

Michael Press said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
"Sorni" <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Never really liked the gel E3 (fit seems different from the ti), but
couldn't get the darned ti one dialed in on the Trek, either! (I
stupidly bought a "micro-adjust" seat post, and I'm in-between
grooves, apparently.)

Would you say more about the seat post? Up until now
`micro-adjust' meant to me that there is no perceptible
granularity. Are the grooves in the fore-aft position or
the tilt?

Tilt. Maybe I'm using the wrong term. I thought "infinite adjustment" (for
example, with two bolts like Thomson) is what you describe as "no
perceptible granularity", whereas "micro-adjust" meant small interlocking
grooves.

Whatever the term, I'm perfectly inbetween: one click is tilted too much
downward, the next too far upward. (I tried turning the "adjusting block"
around -- front arrow pointing back -- and think it might have made a slight
difference. May go back to that if I give that particular saddle another
try with this post.)

Bill "dial-in issues" S.

G.T. said:

"Sorni" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Jeff Starr said:

On Mon, 03 Apr 2006 16:34:00 GMT, "Sorni"
<[email hidden]> wrote:

>
> Bill "endless search for the 'perfect' saddle" S.
>

So, what's the verdict on the E3?

It's the damnedest thing. Loved the ti version I bought for my
Klein. Then I bought a "light bike" (Madone SL frameset), so bought
the heavier (gel) version for the Klein so I could use the ti E3 on
the Trek.

Never really liked the gel E3 (fit seems different from the ti), but
couldn't get the darned ti one dialed in on the Trek, either! (I
stupidly bought a "micro-adjust" seat post, and I'm in-between
grooves, apparently.)

So now I just installed the Terry saddle I picked up for net 10
bucks on the Trek, and will likely put the ti E3 back on the Klein
and return the gel version (it's like new still; only rode it 2 or 3
times).

I've loved every WTB saddle I've ever owned. Currently on a Rocket V.

Whew, I was beginning to think I was the only one. Speed V on the commuter,
Rocket V on the XC MTB, Devo on the road bike.

--
Phil, Squid-in-Training

Sorni said:

Tilt. Maybe I'm using the wrong term. I thought "infinite adjustment" (for
example, with two bolts like Thomson) is what you describe as "no
perceptible granularity", whereas "micro-adjust" meant small interlocking
grooves.

Whatever the term, I'm perfectly inbetween: one click is tilted too much
downward, the next too far upward. (I tried turning the "adjusting block"
around -- front arrow pointing back -- and think it might have made a slight
difference. May go back to that if I give that particular saddle another
try with this post.)

Bill "dial-in issues" S.

Take off the top piece and file or grind down the grooves. It will
become an infinite adjustment clamp, and it won't slip.

I think I read this on one of these forums, a few years ago. I did it
on one of my clamps, when I had the same problem as you.

Or, better yet, buy a nice Easton EC70 or EC90 carbon fiber post. I
really like my EC70 and now they make the EC90 with or without
setback.

Life is Good!
Jeff

Jeff Starr said:

Sorni said:

Tilt. Maybe I'm using the wrong term. I thought "infinite
adjustment" (for example, with two bolts like Thomson) is what you
describe as "no perceptible granularity", whereas "micro-adjust"
meant small interlocking grooves.

Whatever the term, I'm perfectly inbetween: one click is tilted too
much downward, the next too far upward. (I tried turning the
"adjusting block" around -- front arrow pointing back -- and think
it might have made a slight difference. May go back to that if I
give that particular saddle another try with this post.)

Bill "dial-in issues" S.

Take off the top piece and file or grind down the grooves. It will
become an infinite adjustment clamp, and it won't slip.

This post has only one bolt. Hard to believe it wouldn't move.

Bill "anyone wanna buy a Deda Blackstick?" S.

Jeff Starr said:

Sorni said:

Tilt. Maybe I'm using the wrong term. I thought "infinite
adjustment" (for example, with two bolts like Thomson) is what you
describe as "no perceptible granularity", whereas "micro-adjust"
meant small interlocking grooves.

Whatever the term, I'm perfectly inbetween: one click is tilted too
much downward, the next too far upward. (I tried turning the
"adjusting block" around -- front arrow pointing back -- and think
it might have made a slight difference. May go back to that if I
give that particular saddle another try with this post.)

Bill "dial-in issues" S.

Take off the top piece and file or grind down the grooves. It will
become an infinite adjustment clamp, and it won't slip.

I think I read this on one of these forums, a few years ago. I did it
on one of my clamps, when I had the same problem as you.

Or, better yet, buy a nice Easton EC70 or EC90 carbon fiber post. I
really like my EC70 and now they make the EC90 with or without
setback.

I don't know if I missed anything, but if that seatpost is a single-bolt
clamp, then it'll slip, round out, and be very annoying.

--
Phil, Squid-in-Training