chain slippage

Quoted message said:

the cassette seems to last around a year before it needs changing (my
bike does around 100miles a week on mostly non road surfaces). how
long does your cassette and chain last on average before you need to
change them?

Sounds like that's about the average length. But don't let the chain and
cassette wear that much before replacing them. Your chainrings will be
toast more quickly.

Quoted message said:

also what are titanium cassettes like? are they worth
the extra money and do they last longer?

Never have been and never will be.

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NoIdea said:

i have this problem where the chain seems to 'slip' around the cassette when
more than moderate pressure is applied to the pedals. everyone ive spoken to
has said that its due to worn components. i've had this before and after
changing the cassette and the chain its fine.

the cassette seems to last around a year before it needs changing (my bike
does around 100miles a week on mostly non road surfaces). how long does
your cassette and chain last on average before you need to change them?
also what are titanium cassettes like? are they worth the extra money and do
they last longer?

thanks

Another thing to look at is rotating chains....I've found it helps
reduce the wear on the casette and chainrings. Sure it adds another
thing to the maintenance routine (I rotate mine about every 400 miles)
but it seems to extend the life of the rest of the driveline a fair bit.

I find it is cheap to get a spare chain (and chain tool / pins if you
don't already have them)compared to new chainrings and casettes.

Just a thought,

Psycho Mike

Michael Halliwell said:

NoIdea said:

i have this problem where the chain seems to 'slip' around the cassette when
more than moderate pressure is applied to the pedals. everyone ive spoken to
has said that its due to worn components. i've had this before and after
changing the cassette and the chain its fine.

the cassette seems to last around a year before it needs changing (my bike
does around 100miles a week on mostly non road surfaces). how long does
your cassette and chain last on average before you need to change them?
also what are titanium cassettes like? are they worth the extra money and do
they last longer?

thanks

Another thing to look at is rotating chains....I've found it helps
reduce the wear on the casette and chainrings. Sure it adds another
thing to the maintenance routine (I rotate mine about every 400 miles)
but it seems to extend the life of the rest of the driveline a fair bit.

I find it is cheap to get a spare chain (and chain tool / pins if you
don't already have them)compared to new chainrings and casettes.

Just a thought,

Psycho Mike

Agreed. OP, the way you pedal can have an effect on drivetrain wear as
well. Spin and use gears that minimize chain cross.
/s

How do you "rotate" the chain. Swap front for rear or turn
it inside out?

Michael Halliwell said:

NoIdea said:

i have this problem where the chain seems to 'slip' around the
cassette when
more than moderate pressure is applied to the pedals. everyone ive
spoken to
has said that its due to worn components. i've had this before and after
changing the cassette and the chain its fine.

the cassette seems to last around a year before it needs changing (my
bike
does around 100miles a week on mostly non road surfaces). how long does
your cassette and chain last on average before you need to change them?
also what are titanium cassettes like? are they worth the extra money
and do
they last longer?

thanks

Another thing to look at is rotating chains....I've found it helps
reduce the wear on the casette and chainrings. Sure it adds another
thing to the maintenance routine (I rotate mine about every 400 miles)
but it seems to extend the life of the rest of the driveline a fair bit.

I find it is cheap to get a spare chain (and chain tool / pins if you
don't already have them)compared to new chainrings and casettes.

Just a thought,

Psycho Mike

Change the dame cassette,chain and maybe even the chainrings. They
only last as long as they will under the condictions,dirt,lube,grade of
conponent,ect.

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Quoted message said:

How do you "rotate" the chain. Swap front for rear or turn it inside out?

That's what I was wondering. Kinda like rotating your mattress for more
even wear? They're just $30 for the love of Pete, and a new cassette is
what, $40 for a decent one?

And that's a LOT of off-road miles. Sounds a little fishy to me.

CDB

Quoted message said:

Michael Halliwell said:

NoIdea said:

i have this problem where the chain seems to 'slip' around the cassette
when
more than moderate pressure is applied to the pedals. everyone ive
spoken to
has said that its due to worn components. i've had this before and after
changing the cassette and the chain its fine.

the cassette seems to last around a year before it needs changing (my
bike
does around 100miles a week on mostly non road surfaces). how long does
your cassette and chain last on average before you need to change them?
also what are titanium cassettes like? are they worth the extra money
and do
they last longer?

thanks

Another thing to look at is rotating chains....I've found it helps reduce
the wear on the casette and chainrings. Sure it adds another thing to
the maintenance routine (I rotate mine about every 400 miles) but it
seems to extend the life of the rest of the driveline a fair bit.

I find it is cheap to get a spare chain (and chain tool / pins if you
don't already have them)compared to new chainrings and casettes.

Just a thought,

Psycho Mike

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Bill S said:

How do you "rotate" the chain. Swap front for rear or turn
it inside out?

Swap 'em. (Having two or three chains in "rotation" can extend cassette
life...in theory, at least.)

Bill "the other" S.

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Quoted message said:

i have this problem where the chain seems to 'slip' around the cassette
when
more than moderate pressure is applied to the pedals. everyone ive spoken
to
has said that its due to worn components. i've had this before and after
changing the cassette and the chain its fine.

the cassette seems to last around a year before it needs changing (my bike
does around 100miles a week on mostly non road surfaces). how long does
your cassette and chain last on average before you need to change them?
also what are titanium cassettes like? are they worth the extra money and
do
they last longer?

thanks

Sorni said:

Bill S said:

How do you "rotate" the chain. Swap front for rear or turn
it inside out?

Swap 'em. (Having two or three chains in "rotation" can extend cassette
life...in theory, at least.)

Bill "the other" S.

Bill's got the idea.

Psycho Mike

On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:10:40 -0700, "Paladin" <[email hidden]>
scribbled:

Quoted message said:

"Bill S" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

How do you "rotate" the chain. Swap front for rear or turn it inside out?

That's what I was wondering. Kinda like rotating your mattress for more
even wear? They're just $30 for the love of Pete, and a new cassette is
what, $40 for a decent one?

And that's a LOT of off-road miles. Sounds a little fishy to me.

CDB

100 miles a week? That's 20 miles a day for 5 days. That's not an
awful lot if you like to ride and live in a place with lots of trails
around. 🙂

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Paladin said:

"Bill S" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

How do you "rotate" the chain. Swap front for rear or turn it inside out?

That's what I was wondering. Kinda like rotating your mattress for more
even wear? They're just $30 for the love of Pete, and a new cassette is
what, $40 for a decent one?

And that's a LOT of off-road miles. Sounds a little fishy to me.

CDB

Quoted message said:

Michael Halliwell said:

NoIdea wrote:

> i have this problem where the chain seems to 'slip' around the cassette
> when
> more than moderate pressure is applied to the pedals. everyone ive
> spoken to
> has said that its due to worn components. i've had this before and after
> changing the cassette and the chain its fine.
>
> the cassette seems to last around a year before it needs changing (my
> bike
> does around 100miles a week on mostly non road surfaces). how long does
> your cassette and chain last on average before you need to change them?
> also what are titanium cassettes like? are they worth the extra money
> and do
> they last longer?
>
> thanks
>
>

Another thing to look at is rotating chains....I've found it helps reduce
the wear on the casette and chainrings. Sure it adds another thing to
the maintenance routine (I rotate mine about every 400 miles) but it
seems to extend the life of the rest of the driveline a fair bit.

I find it is cheap to get a spare chain (and chain tool / pins if you
don't already have them)compared to new chainrings and casettes.

Just a thought,

Psycho Mike

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Not everybody's an old fart in high mountains, big P.

/s

fLIP a chain which I did with an older chain after my chain started
slipping in the morning and by afternoon it snapped it was trash along
with the chainrings. The chainrings were trash 1st. Hooked teeth that
caused the chain to slip and finally snap. It didnt cost a penny since
I had the spare parts on hand.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

And that's a LOT of off-road miles. Sounds a little fishy to me.

CDB

100 miles a week? That's 20 miles a day for 5 days. That's not an
awful lot if you like to ride and live in a place with lots of trails
around. 🙂

Well, I'll concede the fact that if you don't have to work, you're very
strong, and don't need recovery days, and Ned or Lance would be looked down
on as slackers in your economy, then 100mi/week all year long
mountainbiking is probably possible. It's a big world, and there are all
kinds of folks out there. I would like to withhold judgment until I could
see the "trails" though, that a person could ride 100mi/week all year long
on. Are we sure we're not talking about paved commuting? Even that is a
"vigorous" routine year-round.

CDB

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Paladin said:

Well, I'll concede the fact that if you don't have to work, you're very
strong, and don't need recovery days, and Ned or Lance would be looked down
on as slackers in your economy, then 100mi/week all year long
mountainbiking is probably possible. It's a big world, and there are all
kinds of folks out there. I would like to withhold judgment until I could
see the "trails" though, that a person could ride 100mi/week all year long
on. Are we sure we're not talking about paved commuting? Even that is a
"vigorous" routine year-round.

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There are many weeks in the summer that I get to ride 5 days, but it
would be unusual for more than 2 ride to be over 20 miles, unless I'm
doing a lot of road.

And it is probably closer to every other week that I get out 5 times, in
the summer.

I would agree, 100 miles of dirt a week, most every week of the year,
seems like an awful lot, I only wish I had that kind of time and weather.

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crazy said:

fLIP a chain which I did with an older chain after my chain started
slipping in the morning and by afternoon it snapped it was trash along
with the chainrings. The chainrings were trash 1st. Hooked teeth that
caused the chain to slip and finally snap. It didnt cost a penny since
I had the spare parts on hand.

Did you rejoin the chain correctly?

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Craig Brossman said:

Paladin said:

Well, I'll concede the fact that if you don't have to work, you're
very strong, and don't need recovery days, and Ned or Lance would be
looked down on as slackers in your economy, then 100mi/week all year
long mountainbiking is probably possible. It's a big world, and
there are all kinds of folks out there. I would like to withhold
judgment until I could see the "trails" though, that a person could
ride 100mi/week all year long on. Are we sure we're not talking about
paved commuting? Even that is a "vigorous" routine year-round.

CDB

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There are many weeks in the summer that I get to ride 5 days, but it
would be unusual for more than 2 ride to be over 20 miles, unless I'm
doing a lot of road.

And it is probably closer to every other week that I get out 5 times, in
the summer.

I would agree, 100 miles of dirt a week, most every week of the year,
seems like an awful lot, I only wish I had that kind of time and weather.

I do over 130 a week from late April to late September but most of those
are road. 22 fast miles on road each weeknight and the other 30 or so on
dirt on weekends. Just not close enough to the trails to get a good
ride in. Winter averages about 100 a week with most being on the spinner.

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