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  1. A couple of months ago I posted that I had built me a fixie. "How did
    you get on with it?" I hear you all ask.

    I am now an addict. I love the "live" feel of the fixed wheel. I can't
    accurately explain it. You just have to try it.

    A great benefit is the bike's simplicity. There is almost nothing to
    break and cleaning is the work of minutes without all those cogs and
    jockey wheels.

    Downsides? Well there are the hills. With a single speed you have to
    compromise on the gearing. Where I live on the southside of Glasgow,
    anything more than a short ride involves a climb to about 200m from near
    sea level. OK, no big deal I hear you cry but when you can't shift down
    its a grind.

    The consequent effect on my thighs has been interesting. As well as my
    stomach peeking out of the bath-water, my swelling thighs now peek out
    too. Photographs can be provided on request.

    So now you know.
    --
    Bob Downie
    Downie GeoScience Ltd.
    please remove #n0spam# to reply directly

  2. In the referenced article, Bob Downie <BobMail@downie-geo#n0spam#.co.uk> writes:

    ....

    Quoted message said:

    The consequent effect on my thighs has been interesting. As well as
    my stomach peeking out of the bath-water, my swelling thighs now
    peek out too. Photographs can be provided on request.

    Too much detail. *Definitely* too much detail :-)
    --
    Dennis Davis, BUCS, University of Bath, Bath, BA2 7AY, UK
    [email hidden]

  3. Bob Downie said:

    OK, no big deal I hear you cry but when you can't shift down
    its a grind.

    But you do have less weight to lug up those hills. And isn't there a
    school of thought that says fixed is good for climbing? Not sure why,
    but I know my club colleague who used to do hill climb TTs did so on a
    fixie.

    d.

  4. davek said:

    But you do have less weight to lug up those hills. And isn't there a
    school of thought that says fixed is good for climbing? Not sure why,
    but I know my club colleague who used to do hill climb TTs did so on a
    fixie.

    If the range of gears you would have used on the hill-climb is small,
    you're certainly no worse off on a fixed gear of a similar ratio. Fixed
    riders tell me that for any particular climb the highest fixed gear a
    rider can manage is bigger than the highest freewheel gear. This may be
    because of the flywheel effect as well as the reduced weight. The
    descents seem to be a bigger problem for them than the climbs as they
    are limited by their maximum cadence.

    --
    Dave...

  5. In message <[email hidden]>,
    dkahn400 <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    davek wrote:


    <Snipped stuff>

    Quoted message said:


    If the range of gears you would have used on the hill-climb is small,
    you're certainly no worse off on a fixed gear of a similar ratio. Fixed
    riders tell me that for any particular climb the highest fixed gear a
    rider can manage is bigger than the highest freewheel gear. This may be
    because of the flywheel effect as well as the reduced weight. The
    descents seem to be a bigger problem for them than the climbs as they
    are limited by their maximum cadence.


    Now you mention it and I think about it, I am certainly pulling a higher
    gear uphill than I would ever manage on my freewheel. The weight is
    certainly a factor, plus I've also got on skinny high-pressure tyres.

    I am not sure about the flywheel effect described for fixed wheel
    riding. Where is the extra momentum stored? It can't be the wheels as
    these are common to both fixed and free-wheels. Is it in your legs? As
    these never stop moving I guess that you could conserve energy that way,
    as opposed to the stop-start pedalling on a free-wheel bike.

    True about the descents but as maximum speed is not my aim I can live
    with topping out at about 30mph.
    --
    Bob Downie
    Downie GeoScience Ltd.
    please remove #n0spam# to reply directly

  6. davek said:


    But you do have less weight to lug up those hills. And isn't there a
    school of thought that says fixed is good for climbing? Not sure why,
    but I know my club colleague who used to do hill climb TTs did so on a
    fixie.

    You tend to go faster on hills to the point where you can't keep it moving,
    Then you slow down to a bar straining grind.

    If you can keep it moving, you get to the top faster and more knackered than
    you would on gears.

    --
    Andy Morris

    AndyAtJinkasDotFreeserve.Co.UK

    Love this:
    Put an end to Outlook Express's messy quotes
    http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/

  7. Bob Downie said:

    I am not sure about the flywheel effect described for fixed wheel
    riding. Where is the extra momentum stored? It can't be the wheels as
    these are common to both fixed and free-wheels. Is it in your legs? As
    these never stop moving I guess that you could conserve energy that way,
    as opposed to the stop-start pedalling on a free-wheel bike.

    There's not much stored energy in the wheels. I think it's the kinetic
    energy of you and your bike that keeps your feet moving through top
    dead centre. You still have that energy with a freewheel of course, but
    it's not putting anything back into the pedalling. This sounds a bit
    like a design for a perpetual motion machine so I'm not sure how real
    this is. It may be that it simply helps to smooth out the pedalling
    action.

    --
    Dave...

  8. dkahn400 said:
    Bob Downie said:

    I am not sure about the flywheel effect described for fixed wheel
    riding. Where is the extra momentum stored? It can't be the wheels as
    these are common to both fixed and free-wheels. Is it in your legs? As
    these never stop moving I guess that you could conserve energy that way,
    as opposed to the stop-start pedalling on a free-wheel bike.

    There's not much stored energy in the wheels. I think it's the kinetic
    energy of you and your bike that keeps your feet moving through top
    dead centre. You still have that energy with a freewheel of course, but
    it's not putting anything back into the pedalling. This sounds a bit
    like a design for a perpetual motion machine so I'm not sure how real
    this is. It may be that it simply helps to smooth out the pedalling
    action.


    That's basically it - it helps push the pedals round the dead centres.
    Ironically, given their touted benefits for improving pedalling action,
    fixies allow you to stomp on the pedals with impunity at low rpms. If
    they do promote smoother pedalling, it's because you have to spin like
    crazy downhill.

    Everyone should try a fixie on the road at least once - a few pointers
    from experience:

    (1) Don't stop pedalling. Ever. If you forget this rule, you will be
    hoisted out of the saddle and doing a series of kangaroo jumps down the
    road until you remember. Danger points for forgetting to pedal are
    tight corners, sitting back down after riding out of the saddle, any
    unplanned stop and (yes, I did it) crossing the finish line of the club
    "10".

    (2) If you can't trackstand, always come to a halt with your clipped-in
    leg in a starting position. If it's at bottom dead centre you will look
    and feel a total [censored] when the lights change. If you [censored] it up, you
    can hold the front brake on, lift the rear wheel and turn the crank, but
    this may destroy the uber-cool courier image you were aiming for ;-)

    (3) The fixed wheel is good enough to be a brake in legal terms, but
    unless you are a superhuman trackie, it ain't gonna save you going down
    Rosedale Chimney when your front brake cable snaps. Either grab the
    front tyre if you're wearing mitts - or simply aim for the softest,
    fluffiest thing in the landscape.

    (4) If you smell something like burning Bakelite when descending a long
    hill and trying not to spin out, that'll be your front brake pads.
    Consider fitting two brakes if you ride in hilly country, and/or don't
    overinflate the front tyre. Fixies can be very hard on brakes because
    you can't just let rip downhill; you need to constantly brake to
    maintain a manageable cadence. It only takes 30 seconds or so of
    relentless braking to get the pads smoking hot.

    (5) Keep your chain tight and sort out your chainline if it isn't
    straight. People have literally bent their rear triangles through 90
    degrees due to a thrown chain, and needless to say, this tends to stop
    the bike in a rather rapid and clumsy fashion.

  9. In article <[email hidden]>, davek

    () said:
    Bob Downie said:

    OK, no big deal I hear you cry but when you can't shift down
    its a grind.

    But you do have less weight to lug up those hills. And isn't there a
    school of thought that says fixed is good for climbing? Not sure why,
    but I know my club colleague who used to do hill climb TTs did so on a
    fixie.

    I go up the north side of Stamford Hill about six or seven km/h faster
    on the fixer than I do on /anything/ with gears... Probably because
    grovelling around pedalling at 6 rpm is undignified.

    --
    Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
    Help me, Mrs. Medleycott, I don't know what to do. I've only got three
    bullets and there's four of Mötley Crüe.

  10. Bob Downie said:

    A couple of months ago I posted that I had built me a fixie. "How did
    you get on with it?" I hear you all ask.

    Indeed. Was that the Falcon...

    Quoted message said:

    I am now an addict. I love the "live" feel of the fixed wheel. I can't
    accurately explain it. You just have to try it.

    A great benefit is the bike's simplicity. There is almost nothing to
    break and cleaning is the work of minutes without all those cogs and
    jockey wheels.

    I've finally got news access again after moving to Wales, and discovered
    how much more salt and cack there is on the roads around here than
    London. The front brake callipers on my 1980's Peugeot Triathlon seized
    completely (OK, after 20 years of zero maintenance), so I've fished out
    the Falcon fixie shopping bike.

    Quoted message said:

    Downsides? Well there are the hills.

    And they're the upsides coming back.

    Quoted message said:

    The consequent effect on my thighs has been interesting. As well as my
    stomach peeking out of the bath-water, my swelling thighs now peek out
    too. Photographs can be provided on request.

    My request: stick to photographing the bike, or I'll be forced to
    retaliate with photos of the effects of the Cambrian Mountains on mine 🙂

    JimP

  11. In message <[email hidden]>, Jim Price
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:
    Bob Downie said:

    A couple of months ago I posted that I had built me a fixie. "How did
    you get on with it?" I hear you all ask.

    Indeed. Was that the Falcon...

    Indeed the very same.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    The consequent effect on my thighs has been interesting. As well as
    my stomach peeking out of the bath-water, my swelling thighs now peek
    out too. Photographs can be provided on request.

    My request: stick to photographing the bike, or I'll be forced to
    retaliate with photos of the effects of the Cambrian Mountains on mine
    🙂


    Indeed. With a counter offer like that I now see the folly of my
    original suggestion. I have burned the negatives*.

    Cheers

    * younger readers see
    en.wikipedia.orgNegative (photography)
    --
    Bob Downie
    Downie GeoScience Ltd.
    please remove #n0spam# to reply directly

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