Trouble with 11t Lockring and BBT-5

D'ohBoy said:

Installing my new campy 10 cassette and my BBT-5 only goes into the
lockring about 2 mm and then stops against the freehub nut. Doesn't go
in far enough to stay there and don't want to marf up the splines to
achieve 50 nm.

The BBT-5 doesn't appear to have much more than 2mm extension. Are you
saying that there is less than full engagement?
I've never worked on a Campy freehub, but anytime I loosen or tighten
w/ a splined tool, I try to compress the tool on to the receiver
(lockring, in this case), w/ a quick release or a bolt threaded into
the bb spindle. The only time I was successful w/o a compression
device, I used a 1/2" derive sliding "T" handle adapted down to 3/8" &
laid on the tool & bb w/ all my weight.

Not sure if this will help, but hope it does, John
..

john said:

D'ohBoy said:

Installing my new campy 10 cassette and my BBT-5 only goes into the
lockring about 2 mm and then stops against the freehub nut. Doesn't go
in far enough to stay there and don't want to marf up the splines to
achieve 50 nm.

The BBT-5 doesn't appear to have much more than 2mm extension. Are you
saying that there is less than full engagement?
I've never worked on a Campy freehub, but anytime I loosen or tighten
w/ a splined tool, I try to compress the tool on to the receiver
(lockring, in this case), w/ a quick release or a bolt threaded into
the bb spindle. The only time I was successful w/o a compression
device, I used a 1/2" derive sliding "T" handle adapted down to 3/8" &
laid on the tool & bb w/ all my weight.

Not sure if this will help, but hope it does, John
.

Hey,

Thanks, John, for giving it a whirl. When even my most trusted local
(as local as that gets for me) BS, didn't come through for me with a
palatable suggestion, I was about to go get a long thin machine screw
and a series of consecutively larger washers to hold the Park cassette
lockring tool properly while in the lockring.

But then, I had a thought.

Campagnolo may charge an arm and a leg (which I am frequently willing
to pay) for their stuff, but for the most part, it works extremely well
at all levels (ok, that first 10v chain sucked). So I broke down and
ordered a Campagnolo BB/Cassette tool. $22 at Excel Sports! YIKES!
The BBT-5 was what, $7 from the same outlet?!

I am kinda glad I did - extortion usually isn't on my list of
acceptable business behaviors, but hey, if I can avoid having to pay
for the destructive extraction of the lockring because my Park tool
wouldn't stay put and makes a meal of the lockring splines.....

Surprise, surprise, surprise. The Campy tool works *PERFECTLY*. The
slot between the freehub locknut is just slightly narrower than the
BBT-5 but the Campy tool fits perfectly........

Ahhhhh...... now I just gotta raid the 401k for the rest of the Campy
toolkit....

D'ohBoy who is just itching for Sunday, when temps will be in the 50's
in his area!!!!!

D'ohBoy said:

I was about to go get a long thin machine screw

and a series of consecutively larger washers to hold the Park cassette
lockring tool properly while in the lockring.

AFAIK the rear quick release should work here w/ little trouble. As I
mentioned above I always positively clamp down this type tools if
possible. I'd rather be safe than sorry.

Quoted message said:

Surprise, surprise, surprise. The Campy tool works *PERFECTLY*. The

slot between the freehub locknut is just slightly narrower than the
BBT-5 but the Campy tool fits perfectly........

In general Park makes good tools, & in general I think they are a good
company, but there's no excuse for this. I suspect this is a Q.C.
error. If I were you I'd let them know. They might thank you. Having
said that, they also make a few useless dogs of tools. Such as their
sliding "C" clamp 3rd hand tool. Useless, totally useless.

Quoted message said:

Ahhhhh...... now I just gotta raid the 401k for the rest of the Campy

toolkit....

Somewhere I read they've discontinued it as a tool set. You can still
buy the individual pieces, not the set. But even if I could afford it,
I wouldn't buy it. They haven't kept up w/ newer design changes & Mt.
Bike tech. One would have to supplement it w/ VAR or Park or other
tools in order to be able to work on most bikes made after '90. Not
worth the trouble, even though it's absolutely gorgeous.

Quoted message said:

D'ohBoy who is just itching for Sunday, when temps will be in the 50's

in his area!!!!!

I'm glad it was "only a money" solution. What city do you live in?

Sorry, but I lost track of this thread till today, John

D'ohBoy said:

I was about to go get a long thin machine screw

and a series of consecutively larger washers to hold the Park cassette
lockring tool properly while in the lockring.

AFAIK the rear quick release should work here w/ little trouble. As I
mentioned above I always positively clamp down this type tools if
possible. I'd rather be safe than sorry.

Quoted message said:

Surprise, surprise, surprise. The Campy tool works *PERFECTLY*. The

slot between the freehub locknut is just slightly narrower than the
BBT-5 but the Campy tool fits perfectly........

In general Park makes good tools, & in general I think they are a good
company, but there's no excuse for this. I suspect this is a Q.C.
error. If I were you I'd let them know. They might thank you. Having
said that, they also make a few useless dogs of tools. Such as their
sliding "C" clamp 3rd hand tool. Useless, totally useless.

Quoted message said:

Ahhhhh...... now I just gotta raid the 401k for the rest of the Campy

toolkit....

Somewhere I read they've discontinued it as a tool set. You can still
buy the individual pieces, not the set. But even if I could afford it,
I wouldn't buy it. They haven't kept up w/ newer design changes & Mt.
Bike tech. One would have to supplement it w/ VAR or Park or other
tools in order to be able to work on most bikes made after '90. Not
worth the trouble, even though it's absolutely gorgeous.

Quoted message said:

D'ohBoy who is just itching for Sunday, when temps will be in the 50's

in his area!!!!!

I'm glad it was "only a money" solution. What city do you live in?

Sorry, but I lost track of this thread till today, John