Nutritional value dairy products?

Stan D. said:

Can anyone provide web references for discussion of nutritional value of dairy products such as
milk, cheese, butter? Thanks

Stan

You can find the nutritional content of these foods in this data base:

nal.usda.govnut search.plOpen ↗

But I somehow feel what you are really asking is "are they good for you." The answer to that is that
low or nonfat dairy products are a part of a healthy diet, if you are not lactose intolerant, and
butter, while delicious, has so much saturated fat that most experts advise eating it only in very
small quantities. Cheeses range from high fat to low or no fat and most advise eating those with
higher fat content only as condiments.

Stan,

This Harvard site points out some of the problems with milk.

hsph.harvard.educalcium.htmlOpen ↗

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Can anyone provide web references for discussion of nutritional value of dairy products such as
milk, cheese, butter? Thanks

Stan

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Stan D. said:

Can anyone provide web references for discussion of nutritional value of dairy products such as
milk, cheese, butter? Thanks

Stan

You can find the nutritional content of these foods in this data base:

nal.usda.govnut search.plOpen ↗

But I somehow feel what you are really asking is "are they good for you." The answer to that is
that low or nonfat dairy products are a part of a healthy diet, if you are not lactose intolerant,
and butter, while delicious, has so much saturated fat that most experts advise eating it only in
very small quantities. Cheeses range from high fat to low or no fat and most advise eating those
with higher fat content only as condiments.

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Basically none... too high of a saturated fat content and even if you do go with low-fat dairy you
still have to cotend with the fact that most people don't react well to lactose...

Stan D. said:

Thanks for replies. The reason why I ask is that I have read that dairy foods are no good for men
with bph or Pca (diseases of the prostate).

Stan

That is another issue. There are certain foods I am sure that people with certain diseases should
avoid. But you didn't ask that question. Yogurt and cottage cheese are good foods for most. You will
have to ask your doctor about what foods to avoid for the conditions you describe.

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Thanks for replies. The reason why I ask is that I have read that dairy foods are no good for men
with bph or Pca (diseases of the prostate).

You got that right. Actually, dairy products of today are (imo) contaminated cow slop.

(some Google snippettes, I intended just for my personal info, don't recall the specific sites, but
could probably find them if interested)

MILK HORMONES ARE PROTECTED BY HOMOGENIZATION

Genetic engineering makes a bad product worse. Milk naturally contains powerful growth hormones.
Milk from cows treated with the genetically engineered bovine growth hormone contains increased
amounts of naturally occurring hormones. After cows are treated with BST, levels of another hormone
in milk, IGF-I, increase. IGF-I (insulin-like growth factor) is identical between humans and cows,
and has been called the key factor in the growth of human cancer by more than one cancer researcher.

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CANCER: according to a review published by the World Cancer Research Fund and the American Institute
for Cancer Research, at least 11 human population studies have linked dairy product consumption and
prostate cancer. Recently, a nested case-control study within the Physicians' Health Study using
prospectively collected serum samples from 152 prostate cancer cases and an equal number of controls
found that serum IGF-I concentrations were strongly associated with prostate cancer risk. Also, due
in part to the amount and type of fat contained in dairy products, their consumption is linked to an
increased risk of prostate cancer,
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Researchers are looking, not only at whether milk increases cancer risk, but how. The answer,
apparently, is in the way milk affects a man's hormones. Dairy products boost the amount of
insulin-like growth factor (IGF-I) in the blood. In turn, IGF-I promotes cancer cell growth. A small
amount is normally in the bloodstream, but several recent studies have linked increased IGF-I levels
to prostate cancer and possibly to breast cancer as well.

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Five years ago, FDA encountered the biggest controversy in their history by approving the
genetically engineered bovine growth hormone known as BGH (aka BST). When that hormone is injected
into cows, levels of IGF-I in milk increase by about 80%. [Canada's government has refused to
approve BGH.]

1998 IGF-I was called the key factor in the growth and proliferation of prostate cancer (Science -
January, 1998) and breast cancer (The Lancet - May, 1998).

1999 IGF-I was identified as the key factor in the growth of lung cancer (Journal of the National
Cancer Institute - January, 1999).

The Journal of the American Dietetic Association (Page 1231) said this about IGF-I levels in people
who drink milk: "Serum IGF-I levels (blood levels) increased significantly in the milk group . . .
an increase of about 10% above baseline-- but was unchanged in the control group."
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A study of U.S. women published on May 9 in LANCET, the British medical journal, showed a seven fold
increase in breast cancer among pre-menopause women who had the highest levels of IGF-1
(insulin-Like Growth Factor), the hormone that increases milk production in cows, rBGH). A study
published in January in the journal SCIENCE, linked higher levels of IGF-1 in men with a four-fold
increase in prostate cancer.
E/The ENVIRONMENTAL MAGAZINE

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"IGF-I produces a 10-fold increase in RNA levels of cancer cells. IGF-I appears to be a critical
component in cellular proliferation."

E.A. Li, Exp-Cell-Res., March, 1994, 211(1)
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"The insulin-like growth factor (IGF) system is widely involved in human carcinogenesis. A
significant association between high circulating IGF-I concentrations and an increased risk of lung,
colon, prostate and pre-menopausal breast cancer has recently been reported."

International J Cancer, 2000 Aug, 87:4
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"IGFs may be important in carcinogenesis, possibly by increasing the risk of cellular transformation
by enhancing cell turnover. These emerging epidemiologic data indicate that high levels of IGF-I are
associated with an increased risk of at least several types of carcinoma that are common in
economically developed countries."

Horm Res, 1999, 51 Suppl 3
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IGF-1 works. It may not CAUSE cancer... but it sure can MAKE IT GROW.

There are 58 OTHER hormones in milk...along with scores of allergens and toxins, along with up to 52
different antibiotics. That toxic soup may well be the CAUSE of many cancers... and the built-in
IGF-1 accelerates the growth.

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According to Amy Lanou, Ph.D., the nutrition director of the Physicians Committee for Responsible
Medicine (PCRM), "Besides prostate cancer, milk has been linked to asthma, anemia, allergies,
juvenile-onset diabetes, obesity, heart disease, and ovarian and breast cancer."

"It's not natural for humans to drink cow's milk. Humans milk is for humans. Cow's milk is for
calves. You have no more need of cow's milk than you do rats milk, horses milk or elephant's milk.
Cow's milk is a high fat fluid exquisitely designed to turn a 65 lb baby calf into a 400 lb cow.
That's what cow's milk is for!" --Dr Michael Klaper MD

"I no longer recommend dairy products after the age of 2 years. Other calcium sources offer many
advantages that dairy products do not have." --Dr. Benjamin Spock

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On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 20:16:13 +0100, "Stan D." <[email hidden]> wrote:

>Can anyone provide web references for discussion of nutritional value

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>dairy products such as milk, cheese, butter? Thanks
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>Stan

You can find the nutritional content of these foods in this data base:

nal.usda.govnut search.plOpen ↗

But I somehow feel what you are really asking is "are they good for you." The answer to that
is that low or nonfat dairy products are a part of a healthy diet, if you are not lactose
intolerant, and butter, while delicious, has so much saturated fat that most experts advise
eating it only in very small quantities. Cheeses range from high fat to low or no fat and most
advise eating those with higher fat content only as condiments.
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Basically none... too high of a saturated fat content and even if you do

go

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with low-fat dairy you still have to cotend with the fact that most

people

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don't react well to lactose...

Here are two web references, the second is convertible into English. Of course reliability and lack
of bias can always be disputed.

prostateremedy.comprostate2.htmOpen ↗

staffanlindeberg.comstaffanlindeberg.comOpen ↗

Stan

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Stan D. said:

Thanks for replies. The reason why I ask is that I have read that dairy foods are no good for men
with bph or Pca (diseases of the prostate).

What are these?

Sandy