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Fixing my fly

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  1. My fly is now better than it was.

    I did try everything, except the fins, and... It did clean it up.

    Also today, I had one of the guards watch my fly. I am kicking about 5 time
    for every pull. He told me not to even kick, but over emphasise my arm and
    shoulder motion. I did. It felt wierd. It may clean it up even more.

    I have abbandoned the elementary backstroke in my swims. I now do more fly.

    I have not used my fins for 2 reasons. 1 - they are close to a metre long,
    2, they are just to large for me, I would need to wear wetsuit socks for
    them to fit.

    Micheal

  2. Micheal Artindale said:

    My fly is now better than it was.

    I did try everything, except the fins, and... It did clean it up.

    Also today, I had one of the guards watch my fly. I am kicking about 5 time
    for every pull. He told me not to even kick, but over emphasise my arm and
    shoulder motion. I did. It felt wierd. It may clean it up even more.

    I have abbandoned the elementary backstroke in my swims. I now do more fly.

    Well done.

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    I have not used my fins for 2 reasons. 1 - they are close to a metre long,
    2, they are just to large for me, I would need to wear wetsuit socks for
    them to fit.

    Those sound like diving fins, which should not be used.

    There might be a swim team training at your pool.

    They might have training fins you could borrow.

    Training fins will help you do fly correctly.

  3. Micheal Artindale said:

    Also today, I had one of the guards watch my fly. I am kicking about 5 time
    for every pull.

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    Micheal

    It sounds like a drill. Actually you can find a good description of
    this drill in the link below

    http://www.goswim.tv/drilloftheweek_comments.php?id=2305_0_20_0_C

    At the begining of the session we usually swim 50-75m reps of fly with
    3 kicks. It is supposed to be easier than normal fly. Note that none of
    the 3 kicks need to be what we would call a "second kick" (the kick
    which goes with the end of the push).


  4. Quoted message said:

    My fly is now better than it was.

    Micheal

    Question: why don't you enter a race that doesn't include the 'fly if you
    are terrible at it? Make your first race one with a stroke or strokes that
    you actually know how to do....

    Pat in TX

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  5. Your 5-kicks per stroke in Butterfly remind of a friend who used to
    switch from dolphin kick to some quick flutter kicking as he tried to
    get his arms up and over the water so they would recover. It was
    amusing to watch underwater - I dubbed it "flutter butter". In honor
    of the Mexican holiday coming up fairly soon, maybe we can call your
    five kick versin, "Cinqo de Fly" 🙂

    Eric

  6. Interesting drill. It confirms what I said on another post - many
    masters swimmers do a kick prior to starting their pull. It decouples
    the timing of the stroke so that the finishing pull, arm recovery, and
    kick don't have to happen in such quick sequence. This form of
    butterly IS slower than then the proper one. But you can swim fly for
    a lot longer using the technique.

    Eric

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