Goat and mutton

On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 00:37:22 -0500, "Nobody" <[email hidden]>

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What I am curious about is whether goat lends itself to being cooked rare,

Absolutely....not. You might be able to get away with cooking kid
(cabrito) med-rare, after you take a baseball bat to it.

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I've also been thinking about trying mutton. I quick Google does not show
any mutton vendors; I'm wondering if there's a reliable place that sells it
mail order.

Mutton is just mature lamb. Cook that instead.

-sw

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Quoted message said:

I'm interested in trying a goat roast. I've had goat before, but has
always been in curries, where it is cooked for a long time in a very
strong sauce. What I am curious about is whether goat lends itself to
being cooked rare, without a lot of seasoning, like a leg of lamb. Any
comments about this, and hints as to how just plain goat meat tastes,
would be appreciated.

I have had roast goat, many years ago. Not rare, though - however, it was
not a young goat. None of us were gourmets, either! I was about 18, and a
group of us from uni were spending a few days on a property owned by one of
the guy's parents. The boys butchered a goat and we roasted a leg of it for
dinner. I remember enjoying it, and thinking it was like more strongly
flavoured lamb - probably much like mutton. I seem to recall we started the
meal with vichyssois, served cold.

I probably would do a long slow roast, though, rather than doing it rare.

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Nobody said:

I'm interested in trying a goat roast. I've had goat before, but has always
been in curries, where it is cooked for a long time in a very strong sauce.
What I am curious about is whether goat lends itself to being cooked rare,
without a lot of seasoning, like a leg of lamb. Any comments about this, and
hints as to how just plain goat meat tastes, would be appreciated.

Like mild venison IMHO.
Depends on how old the animal was, and what it was fed.

I raised some many years ago and fed them sweet feed. They were similar
in flavor to beef, but generally leaner.

Yes, goat is good rare.

Quoted message said:

I've also been thinking about trying mutton. I quick Google does not show
any mutton vendors; I'm wondering if there's a reliable place that sells it
mail order.

Thanks.

Mutton is very, very fatty.
It takes specific cooking techniques to make it edible, but that's a
personal opinion.

I prefer lamb.

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Nobody said:

I'm interested in trying a goat roast. I've had goat before, but has always
been in curries, where it is cooked for a long time in a very strong sauce.
What I am curious about is whether goat lends itself to being cooked rare,
without a lot of seasoning, like a leg of lamb. Any comments about this, and
hints as to how just plain goat meat tastes, would be appreciated.

If you take a young (a few months old) nanny and roast it (spit or oven)
to medium (not rare!) with garlic slivers inserted in the meat, coated
with olive oil and sprinkled with rosemary leaves and salt and pepper to
taste it is delicious. To me it tastes like a cross between lamb and
veal (sort of).

D.M.

That's my favorite way of roasting leg of lamb (except for the "medium"
part), so this is encouraging. I think I may stop my bleating, and order
some goat.

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Nobody said:

I'm interested in trying a goat roast. I've had goat before, but has
always
been in curries, where it is cooked for a long time in a very strong
sauce.
What I am curious about is whether goat lends itself to being cooked
rare,
without a lot of seasoning, like a leg of lamb. Any comments about this,
and
hints as to how just plain goat meat tastes, would be appreciated.

If you take a young (a few months old) nanny and roast it (spit or oven)
to medium (not rare!) with garlic slivers inserted in the meat, coated
with olive oil and sprinkled with rosemary leaves and salt and pepper to
taste it is delicious. To me it tastes like a cross between lamb and
veal (sort of).

D.M.

Donald Martinich said:

If you take a young (a few months old) nanny and roast it (spit or oven)
to medium (not rare!) with garlic slivers inserted in the meat...

Is a young nanny really any different than a male kid?
(Child-molesters need not respond).

-sw

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Quoted message said:

I'm interested in trying a goat roast. I've had goat before, but has always
been in curries, where it is cooked for a long time in a very strong sauce.
What I am curious about is whether goat lends itself to being cooked rare,
without a lot of seasoning, like a leg of lamb. Any comments about this, and
hints as to how just plain goat meat tastes, would be appreciated.

With goat, Kid is the way to go. Cooks up like a leg of lamb, tender, mild and
mellow.
I roast it with bayleaf and a few allspice berries, then serve with sour cream
sauce.
Any goat older than about 1 or 1_1/2 years is going to have a sharp taint to
the meat that is best disguised in curries etc as you describe.

We usually put a few of our own kids (4 legged) in the freezer each year; one
of my favourite meats. The closest I can come to describe the flavour is
domestic rabbit.

-Peter

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Is a young nanny really any different than a male kid?
(Child-molesters need not respond).

-sw

No difference whatsoever, flavour wise.

-P.

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Absolutely....not. You might be able to get away with cooking kid
(cabrito) med-rare, after you take a baseball bat to it.

I beg to differ. 1 1/2 hours in the oven in a covered roasting dish, from
frozen, and the meat will fall off the bone, and later melt in your mouth.

No baseball bats needed unless you like to clobber things to death and eat
bruised meat. Me, I use the .22 and a sharp knife. <wink>

-P.

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Peter Huebner said:

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Is a young nanny really any different than a male kid?
(Child-molesters need not respond).

-sw

No difference whatsoever, flavour wise.

-P.

I suggested a nanny just to be a little cautious. As a kid matures there
is a flavor change when they are weaned and again when the boys hit
pubescence. I just don't have a good average age for that at the moment.
The expression, "smells like a goat" has a very real basis.

D.M.

Peter Huebner said:

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Absolutely....not. You might be able to get away with cooking kid
(cabrito) med-rare, after you take a baseball bat to it.

I beg to differ. 1 1/2 hours in the oven in a covered roasting dish, from
frozen, and the meat will fall off the bone, and later melt in your mouth.

Yes, but it won't be medium rare. Read my post again.

I make a green chili, tomatillo stew using a side of kid. Just
something I invented one day that was a real hit, and now I make
it a couple times a year when I see it on sale.

Easter's coming up, so you know what that means. And it ain't
rabbit stew.

-sw

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The expression, "smells like a goat" has a very real basis.

You're telling me - I've got about 600 goats :-) The worst of the bucks' smell
comes from the fact that they pee on their beard in order to attract the
ladies. (ymmv) I can sometimes smell them from 100m away.

But, as far as I am can tell, that does not translate into the kids' meat.

-P.

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Peter Huebner said:

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The expression, "smells like a goat" has a very real basis.

You're telling me - I've got about 600 goats :-) The worst of the bucks'
smell
comes from the fact that they pee on their beard in order to attract the
ladies. (ymmv) I can sometimes smell them from 100m away.

But, as far as I am can tell, that does not translate into the kids' meat.

No, you're right, the source of the stronger meat flavor is mostly
glandular. My wife used to have a pet buck who seemed to think that
human females were promising "dating" material and would approach them,
bare his teeth, start urinating on his beard, all the while exhibiting a
spectacular erection. It was always interesting to watch the
expressions on their faces as they went from the "cute little goat"
phase to total gross-out. (We did try to warn them ahead of time.)

D.M.

I've tried that on dates; it usually doesn't work.

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Quoted message said:

The expression, "smells like a goat" has a very real basis.

You're telling me - I've got about 600 goats :-) The worst of the bucks'
smell
comes from the fact that they pee on their beard in order to attract the
ladies. (ymmv) I can sometimes smell them from 100m away.

But, as far as I am can tell, that does not translate into the kids' meat.

-P.

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I've tried that on dates; it usually doesn't work.

So, what happened when it did? 🙂

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Quoted message said:

The expression, "smells like a goat" has a very real basis.

You're telling me - I've got about 600 goats :-) The worst of the bucks'
smell
comes from the fact that they pee on their beard in order to attract the
ladies. (ymmv) I can sometimes smell them from 100m away.

But, as far as I am can tell, that does not translate into the kids' meat.

-P.

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Cheers, Phred.

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Quoted message said:

I'm interested in trying a goat roast. I've had goat before, but has always
been in curries, where it is cooked for a long time in a very strong sauce.
What I am curious about is whether goat lends itself to being cooked rare,
without a lot of seasoning, like a leg of lamb. Any comments about this, and
hints as to how just plain goat meat tastes, would be appreciated.

I've also been thinking about trying mutton. I quick Google does not show
any mutton vendors; I'm wondering if there's a reliable place that sells it
mail order.

I ate cabrito (young goat) a few times and thought it was kinda gross. Since
lamb (young sheep) is delicious and mutton often described as gross, I can
only imagine that adult goat is even grosser than cabrito. And I tried the
cabrito when I lived on the border, even the ubiquitous Mexican carnicerías
didn't carry it as a regular item. I still would like to try mutton, but
that is also nearly impossible to find. I'm assuming the reason nobody
carries it is because nobody likes it.

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Nobody wrote...

Quoted message said:

I'm interested in trying a goat roast. I've had goat before, but has always
been in curries, where it is cooked for a long time in a very strong sauce.
What I am curious about is whether goat lends itself to being cooked rare,
without a lot of seasoning, like a leg of lamb. Any comments about this, and
hints as to how just plain goat meat tastes, would be appreciated.

I've also been thinking about trying mutton. I quick Google does not show
any mutton vendors; I'm wondering if there's a reliable place that sells it
mail order.

I ate cabrito (young goat) a few times and thought it was kinda gross. Since
lamb (young sheep) is delicious and mutton often described as gross, I can
only imagine that adult goat is even grosser than cabrito. And I tried the
cabrito when I lived on the border, even the ubiquitous Mexican carnicerías
didn't carry it as a regular item. I still would like to try mutton, but
that is also nearly impossible to find. I'm assuming the reason nobody
carries it is because nobody likes it.

Goat meat is probably the most widely consumed meat of all. The poor
bloody goat doesn't seem to have been granted "religious exemption"
anywhere in the world. :-)

Cheers, Phred.

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Mutton is just stronger tasting and tougher. I wouldn't bother hunting
it down, just over-cook the cheapest lamb you can find from the worst
butcher you can find.

Blergh.

t

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Quoted message said:

I'm interested in trying a goat roast. I've had goat before, but has
always been in curries, where it is cooked for a long time in a very
strong sauce. What I am curious about is whether goat lends itself to
being cooked rare, without a lot of seasoning, like a leg of lamb. Any
comments about this, and hints as to how just plain goat meat tastes,
would be appreciated.

I've also been thinking about trying mutton. I quick Google does not show
any mutton vendors; I'm wondering if there's a reliable place that sells
it mail order.

I ate cabrito (young goat) a few times and thought it was kinda gross.
Since
lamb (young sheep) is delicious and mutton often described as gross, I can
only imagine that adult goat is even grosser than cabrito. And I tried
the
cabrito when I lived on the border, even the ubiquitous Mexican
carnicerías
didn't carry it as a regular item. I still would like to try mutton, but
that is also nearly impossible to find. I'm assuming the reason nobody
carries it is because nobody likes it.

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It has been many years since I last had goat - but I liked it. Ours was
grilled on a spit IIRC. Yummy!

I've never (knowingly) had mutton but have had (supposedly) lamb and love
it! In fact, I'm hoping to do a leg of lamb with lots of garlic and
rosemary around Easter. Mmmmm.
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