Running in -30

News said:

I run the coulees of southern Alberta and in the dead of winter the temp can
drop below -30. I have not been able to find any eye protection that does
not fog up. I want to block the UVs and still be able to see, has anyone
found eye wear that will both protect my eyes and not fog up in COLD
weather?

Won't find it. Eyewear fogs due to temperature
differences (i.e., inside next to the face vs.
facing out from the face and exposed to cold air,
meaning condensation.) Only way to prevent it is
some sort of chemical treatment.

I'd suggest goggles at those temps (presciption
or otherwise) plus treated with Sea Drops or
another antifoggant

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News said:

I run the coulees of southern Alberta and in the dead of winter the temp can
drop below -30. I have not been able to find any eye protection that does
not fog up. I want to block the UVs and still be able to see, has anyone
found eye wear that will both protect my eyes and not fog up in COLD
weather?

Have you tried ski goggles? or regular wrap-around sunglasses? Many come
with different color lenses for different conditions.

or anti-fog sprays or solutions? (like swimmers use, but not sure how
they'd work in -30C / -20F)

Are they fogging strictly from the cold, or are they fogging from your
breath going upward? ie. would rerouting your exhale help?

I've only used goggles in the wind (or when I used to xc ski in Colorado
mtns - but that wasn't cold), and there's enough ventilation that they
didn't fog. I don't remember using goggles at -20F so not sure how mine
work at those temperatures. Good luck.

Dot

--
"Remorse - a good trail always makes you feel sorry that it is over no
matter how tired you are" - Matt Carpenter

News a écrit :

Quoted message said:

I run the coulees of southern Alberta and in the dead of winter the temp can
drop below -30. I have not been able to find any eye protection that does
not fog up. I want to block the UVs and still be able to see, has anyone
found eye wear that will both protect my eyes and not fog up in COLD
weather?

I've you ever tried doing like our antediluvian ancestors did : opaque
material with just two narrow horizontal slits for each eyes?
It won't totally block UVs though, but still protect your eyes from both
light and cold.

marko posting from his cave

"The windchill at a race I ran this morning was -30C (-23F). It was
a 'real' windchill, too."

cheers,
--
David Hirsh, director
www.urbanburn.com - half marathon, full throttle!
www.absolutelyaccurate.com - Hamilton's summer series!
____

I am reposting what David stated last year. I would think he's the
expert on this topic and best positioned to share informed experience.
Of course when he said this I had a series of follow up questions he
never answered...bus since he said it, I am sure it's true.

Quoted message said:

"The windchill at a race I ran this morning was -30C (-23F). It was
a 'real' windchill, too."

cheers,
--
David Hirsh, director
www.urbanburn.com - half marathon, full throttle!
www.absolutelyaccurate.com - Hamilton's summer series!
____

I am reposting what David stated last year. I would think he's the
expert on this topic and best positioned to share informed experience.
Of course when he said this I had a series of follow up questions he
never answered...bus since he said it, I am sure it's true.

That reminds me, in the same thread you said:

----------------------------------------------------
[email hidden] wrote:

As this blizzard and cold front hit the East Coast of N. America...I've
been researching some of the coldest races ever held in N. America, etc.
----------------------------------------------------

I would think you'd have finished your research by now.
I'd also think that you're now the best positioned to share
a year's worth of tenacious research. So, can we gain access
to this or is it too confidential?

Btw, I notice you've been bringing David into your threads lately.
Any reason why you are so obsessed with him?

jobs

p.s.: Here's the whole thread: http://tinyurl.com/q6o8x

Quoted message said:

News said:

I run the coulees of southern Alberta and in the dead of winter the temp
can
drop below -30. I have not been able to find any eye protection that does
not fog up. I want to block the UVs and still be able to see, has anyone
found eye wear that will both protect my eyes and not fog up in COLD
weather?

Won't find it. Eyewear fogs due to temperature
differences (i.e., inside next to the face vs.
facing out from the face and exposed to cold air,
meaning condensation.) Only way to prevent it is
some sort of chemical treatment.

I'd suggest goggles at those temps (presciption
or otherwise) plus treated with Sea Drops or
another antifoggant

Rats I have always avoided goggles, even when cross-country skiing. I
suppose I will have to try them as I have tried the antifog stuff to no
avail. Thanks

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Quoted message said:

News said:

I run the coulees of southern Alberta and in the dead of winter the temp
can drop below -30. I have not been able to find any eye protection that
does not fog up. I want to block the UVs and still be able to see, has
anyone found eye wear that will both protect my eyes and not fog up in
COLD weather?

Have you tried ski goggles? or regular wrap-around sunglasses? Many come
with different color lenses for different conditions.

or anti-fog sprays or solutions? (like swimmers use, but not sure how
they'd work in -30C / -20F)

Are they fogging strictly from the cold, or are they fogging from your
breath going upward? ie. would rerouting your exhale help?

I've only used goggles in the wind (or when I used to xc ski in Colorado
mtns - but that wasn't cold), and there's enough ventilation that they
didn't fog. I don't remember using goggles at -20F so not sure how mine
work at those temperatures. Good luck.

Dot

Wrap around sunglasses are the worse for me, they fog up so fast I cannot
see even in warm weather. I have tried anti fog stuff but that has never
worked for me once the temps get a bit extreme (hot or cold)

Personally I think it is the sweat turning to vapor in the cold that fogs my
glasses but if I don't have them on the sun light kills my eyes.

"marko" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

News a écrit :

Quoted message said:

I run the coulees of southern Alberta and in the dead of winter the temp
can drop below -30. I have not been able to find any eye protection that
does not fog up. I want to block the UVs and still be able to see, has
anyone found eye wear that will both protect my eyes and not fog up in
COLD weather?

I've you ever tried doing like our antediluvian ancestors did : opaque
material with just two narrow horizontal slits for each eyes?
It won't totally block UVs though, but still protect your eyes from both
light and cold.

marko posting from his cave

LOL no but I just may have to

<[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

"The windchill at a race I ran this morning was -30C (-23F). It was
a 'real' windchill, too."

cheers,
--
David Hirsh, director
www.urbanburn.com - half marathon, full throttle!
www.absolutelyaccurate.com - Hamilton's summer series!
____

I am reposting what David stated last year. I would think he's the
expert on this topic and best positioned to share informed experience.
Of course when he said this I had a series of follow up questions he
never answered...bus since he said it, I am sure it's true.

three years ago I was running at -47C it was so stinking cold my eyelids
froze shut once and ice formed from my sweat. That was an amazing experience
heaps of fun but hurt like crazy. I had hand warmers in my mitts and still
my hands felt like they were going to fall off.