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DT Wheelsmith nipples interchangeable?

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  1. that is can one use DT's on Wheelsmith spokes?

  2. Quoted message said:

    that is can one use DT's on Wheelsmith spokes?

    Yes. Gauge and thread pitch standards are the same for both
    manufacturers.

  3. Quoted message said:

    that is can one use DT's on Wheelsmith spokes?

    Most/all spokes use the same thread for each gauge, including all the
    premium makers like Wheelsmith, Sapim, and DT. The Bicycle Wheel says
    that "nipples from the same manufacturer as the spokes are preferred."
    I've always taken that to mean that there might be some subtle things a
    maker might do to make their nipples and spokes work better together,
    but I really have no idea what it's about. I've avoided building whole
    wheels with mismatched spokes and nips for this reason, and tried to
    only replace nipples on name spokes with that brand's nipples, but if I
    don't have them I don't worry about it. Also, I'm pretty sure nipples
    can have different threaded lengths, which could make a difference in
    some situations.

  4. i agree! but it's down to the LBS with the DT-maybe they have
    Wheelsmith's on hand.
    I tried switching and found the DT on Wheelsmoith spokes gave a loose
    fit-but this was on 1980"s spokes.

  5. Hi Gene
    Are you sure the old spokes are 2.0mm & not 1.8MM?
    Just a thought, John

  6. John Drew said:

    Are you sure the old spokes are 2.0mm & not 1.8mm?

    You can be sure if they are 2mm spokes because only a 2mm x 56TPI
    spoke nipple will fit. Because the thread pitch of 1.8mm spokes is
    the same, the 2mm nipple will fit on them but will strip its threads
    when the wheel is tightened. This has been done often enough that
    most who familiar with one-off wheel building have seen it happen.

    Jobst Brandt

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    that is can one use DT's on Wheelsmith spokes?


    Yes. Modern spokes and nipples are all 56tpi.

    (Assuming your spokes and nipples are all either 14g or all 15g)

    --
    Andrew Muzi
    www.yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

  8. J. Brandt said:

    Because the thread pitch of 1.8mm spokes is
    the same, the 2mm nipple will fit ....

    Hi Jobs

    That is what I'm suggesting. He might have 1.8mm spokes & w/ 56tpi &
    2.0mm nipples. I became aware of this possibility on page 49 of your
    book, "Spoke Threads". I wish the spoke manufactures would take your
    suggestion & make all 1.8mm spokes 0.40mm pitch. All the 1.8mm, I've
    ever noticed were ~.44mm pitch.

    Too bad, John

  9. this is possible!

  10. Hi Jobst

    Sorry for the typo of your name, John

  11. Quoted message said:

    this is possible!

    Gene makes indefinite pronoun use a literary art form!
    --
    Tom Sherman

  12. Quoted message said:

    that is can one use DT's on Wheelsmith spokes?

    yesyoucanwithoutproblemjustmatchthegaugeandyouaregoodtogo

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