Pantani

Bill C said:

It's already a sad anniversary in his home country. IMO he's a tragic
figure and I feel for him, the sport, and his family.
I hope he's riding free in a clean sporting world now where he can
compete cleanly.

Never mind his name in this url.., it's the monument in Cesenatico:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:Pattani.JPG

In 1994 for Carrera:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ec/Pantani_carrera_promo.jpg

--
E. Dronkert

Um, he's dead.

I just watched the WCV versions of the 1998 Giro and Tour. I've got to
tell you, dope or no dope that guy was something special. He attacked
before, during and after. He was great everywhere. Anyone that
remembers that time can tell you that almost everyone was using EPO but
Pantani was beyond drugs.

crit PRO said:

Um, he's dead.

Ummmm, looks like everyone who's not brain dead understood what I
meant by that.
Bill C

Tom Kunich said:

I've got to
tell you, dope or no dope that guy was something special. He attacked
before, during and after. He was great everywhere.

He had a lot of panache.

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crit PRO said:

Um, he's dead.

Bill C said:

Ummmm, looks like everyone who's not brain dead understood what I
meant by that.

So crit pro is really Terri Schiavo ?

Donald Munro said:

Quoted message said:

crit PRO said:

Um, he's dead.

Bill C said:

Ummmm, looks like everyone who's not brain dead understood what I
meant by that.

So crit pro is really Terri Schiavo ?

Given the track record, Could be.
Bill C

Bill C said:

It's already a sad anniversary in his home country. IMO he's a tragic
figure and I feel for him, the sport, and his family.
I hope he's riding free in a clean sporting world now where he can
compete cleanly.

Dumbass -

It blows me away how some people want to turn this guy into a martyr.

He was physically small, but he was also a moral midget. He blamed
everyone else for his problems. Everyone but the person who caused
them: himself.

Pantani sucks.

thanks,

K. Gringioni.

Kurgan Gringioni said:

He was physically small, but he was also a moral midget. He blamed
everyone else for his problems. Everyone but the person who caused
them: himself.

Pantani sucks.

Simple and obvious case of panache withdrawal. And it would be
'sucked'. Unless you know something we don't.

Curtis L. Russell
You can thank me for the straight line later...

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Tom Kunich said:

I've got to
tell you, dope or no dope that guy was something special. He attacked
before, during and after. He was great everywhere.

But he was a liberal, so you can't like him.

i do not claim this to be an original thought,.. but i think pantani
was so exciting because he was a brilliant climber and not so great
otherwise. this meant he had to show clear superiority on the big
climbs and then show a sort of battle of will in time trials etc. i
still find the 98 tour thrilling.

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Tom Kunich said:

I've got to
tell you, dope or no dope that guy was something special. He attacked
before, during and after. He was great everywhere.

He had a lot of panache.

If he had panache, he would not have accepted the gift Armstrong gave him on
Ventoux after towing his ass up the mountain. That "victory" was certainly
not how a champion would want to be remembered.

-T

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Tom Kunich said:

I've got to
tell you, dope or no dope that guy was something special. He attacked
before, during and after. He was great everywhere.

He had a lot of panache.

If he had panache, he would not have accepted the gift Armstrong gave him
on Ventoux after towing his ass up the mountain. That "victory" was
certainly not how a champion would want to be remembered.

Very good point point, except:
1. Armstrong didn't tow Pantani's ass up the mountain. Pantani, dropped in
the first half of the climb, attacked several times in the last 6 km.
Armstrong rejoined him 2- 2.5 km from the top. From that moment on, he was
leading most of the time, but certainly not all of the time.
2. Pantani didn't accept the gift at all. He was furious.

Benjo

Kurgan Gringioni said:

Bill C said:

It's already a sad anniversary in his home country. IMO he's a tragic
figure and I feel for him, the sport, and his family.
I hope he's riding free in a clean sporting world now where he can
compete cleanly.

Dumbass -

It blows me away how some people want to turn this guy into a martyr.

He was physically small, but he was also a moral midget. He blamed
everyone else for his problems. Everyone but the person who caused
them: himself.

Pantani sucks.

thanks,

K. Gringioni.

Obviously your genius doesn't extend to a familiarity with, and
understanding of the tragedies. Try to work in some "Classical"
studies. Might make you more human, and able to relate to females
better.
Bill C

Bill C said:

Quoted message said:

Dumbass -

It blows me away how some people want to turn this guy into a martyr.

He was physically small, but he was also a moral midget. He blamed
everyone else for his problems. Everyone but the person who caused
them: himself.

Pantani sucks.

thanks,

K. Gringioni.

Obviously your genius doesn't extend to a familiarity with, and
understanding of the tragedies.

Dumbass -

A real tragedy is when some cataclysmic event is inflicted upon an
innocent. Like Yitzhak Rabin or Christa McAuliff or M. Luther King Jr.

Pantani was no innocent. Everything that happened to him he did to
himself. I'm not going to memorialize a loser like that.

thanks,

K. Gringioni.

tschulen said:

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

He had a lot of panache.

If he had panache, he would not have accepted the gift Armstrong gave him on
Ventoux after towing his ass up the mountain.

dumbass,

he was off the panache after the '99 giro. if he was on panache he
would've easily dropped armstrong.

Kurgan Gringioni said:

Dumbass -

A real tragedy is when some cataclysmic event is inflicted upon an
innocent. Like Yitzhak Rabin or Christa McAuliff or M. Luther King Jr.

Pantani was no innocent. Everything that happened to him he did to
himself. I'm not going to memorialize a loser like that.

dumbass,

he liked to get high, but he was kinda cavalier like a lot of people
who like to get high, which is why he did things like crash his car and
evantually OD.

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Donald Munro said:

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crit PRO said:

Um, he's dead.

Bill C said:

Ummmm, looks like everyone who's not brain dead understood what I
meant by that.

So crit pro is really Terri Schiavo ?

Where's Dr. Frist when you need him?

--
tanx,
Howard

The poodle bites, the poodle chews it.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

"Bill C" <[email hidden]> wrote ...

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I don't worship him. It's a thing called empathy and understanding.
Must be a real [censored] up on that pedestal.

But the air is clean and the view splendid.