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  1. Hello all,

    I started doing sprint distance triathlons last year and would like to
    improve my performance this year. Last year I did three events with my
    best time being 2 hrs 5 minutes. I am looking for some advice in tuning
    up my training. I am not interested in equipment advice as much as
    improving my physical performance. I currently ride a Trek 700 hybrid
    and no doubt a decent road bike would make a difference. Maybe after my
    performace improvement curve flattens I will consider a new bike but
    for now that is not my focus. I want to do at least another three
    sprint tri's this summer and then begin training for the olympic
    distance tri's. These things are addictive! Just had an EKG and stress
    test, Dr says my heart is in excellent condition so I am ready to go
    for it.

    Current Training Regimen:

    In the winter I hit the treadmill three mornings a week, walking. 5
    mins warm up, 30 mins at 130 - 150 HR, 5 mins cool down. I swim once a
    week, 1000m at a comfortable crawl in about 28 minutes. When the
    weather warms I will cycle several times a week. One 10 mile route at a
    13 MPH avg, a couple of 3.7 mile routes at a 13 MPH avg and a few
    leisurely cruises of 5 - 10 miles at a 10 MPH avg.

    I need to be able to run/trot/jog the entire 3.1 miles of the sprint
    tri. During the tri's I typically trot for a hundred yards then walk a
    couple hundred so I end up trotting maybe 1/3 of the distance. There
    have been a few things that have kept me from running which were
    probably weight related. Shin splints and plantar fascitus (sp). I
    started wearing better shoes with good arch support and am reducing my
    gross tonnage. My BMI has gone from 41.2 down to 37.3 and is still
    dropping. The plantar is all but gone, shin splints I have had even
    before I was fat. I discovered the special pain which is shin splints
    back in the late 70's while in basic at Ft Knox.

    Thanks in advance for any advice regarding shin splints or my training
    in general.

  2. Hello,
    I've battled shin splints my whole life. They were extremely bad last
    year, and limited my training. This winter I've worked to get rid of them,
    and have been able to increase my run miles. Here is what I did:

    1. Go to a good running shoe store, and get a good pair of shoes.

    2. If the shoes don't help, go to a podiatrist. Mine recommended orthotics,
    which I'll get before my first du (couldn't afford them after buying a new
    tri bike frame for Christmas). In the meantime he sold me a good arch
    support (cost $30). This has helped.

    3. Strengthen your calfs by doing toe raises.

    4. Be sure to stretch before running. I sometimes use heat applied to my
    shins before running.

    5. Use ice after running, whether you feel like you need it not.

    6. In between runs use a massager to help relieve the pain.

    I hope this helps,
    Larry

    "tiwang" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Hello all,

    I started doing sprint distance triathlons last year and would like to
    improve my performance this year. Last year I did three events with my
    best time being 2 hrs 5 minutes. I am looking for some advice in tuning
    up my training. I am not interested in equipment advice as much as
    improving my physical performance. I currently ride a Trek 700 hybrid
    and no doubt a decent road bike would make a difference. Maybe after my
    performace improvement curve flattens I will consider a new bike but
    for now that is not my focus. I want to do at least another three
    sprint tri's this summer and then begin training for the olympic
    distance tri's. These things are addictive! Just had an EKG and stress
    test, Dr says my heart is in excellent condition so I am ready to go
    for it.

    Current Training Regimen:

    In the winter I hit the treadmill three mornings a week, walking. 5
    mins warm up, 30 mins at 130 - 150 HR, 5 mins cool down. I swim once a
    week, 1000m at a comfortable crawl in about 28 minutes. When the
    weather warms I will cycle several times a week. One 10 mile route at a
    13 MPH avg, a couple of 3.7 mile routes at a 13 MPH avg and a few
    leisurely cruises of 5 - 10 miles at a 10 MPH avg.

    I need to be able to run/trot/jog the entire 3.1 miles of the sprint
    tri. During the tri's I typically trot for a hundred yards then walk a
    couple hundred so I end up trotting maybe 1/3 of the distance. There
    have been a few things that have kept me from running which were
    probably weight related. Shin splints and plantar fascitus (sp). I
    started wearing better shoes with good arch support and am reducing my
    gross tonnage. My BMI has gone from 41.2 down to 37.3 and is still
    dropping. The plantar is all but gone, shin splints I have had even
    before I was fat. I discovered the special pain which is shin splints
    back in the late 70's while in basic at Ft Knox.

    Thanks in advance for any advice regarding shin splints or my training
    in general.

  3. I have been suffering with shin splints for several years as well. The
    thing that has helped me the most was a set of custom orthotics designed to
    support the arch but also cushion at the same time. I agree with the other
    posters recommendations especially the ice down after runs and good
    stretching of the calf and achilles tendon before running. Keep up with the
    exercise and as you lose weight your times will go down. I've lost about 20
    pounds over the last two years and my sprint tri times have dropped by about
    25 minutes.
    "tiwang" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Hello all,

    I started doing sprint distance triathlons last year and would like to
    improve my performance this year. Last year I did three events with my
    best time being 2 hrs 5 minutes. I am looking for some advice in tuning
    up my training. I am not interested in equipment advice as much as
    improving my physical performance. I currently ride a Trek 700 hybrid
    and no doubt a decent road bike would make a difference. Maybe after my
    performace improvement curve flattens I will consider a new bike but
    for now that is not my focus. I want to do at least another three
    sprint tri's this summer and then begin training for the olympic
    distance tri's. These things are addictive! Just had an EKG and stress
    test, Dr says my heart is in excellent condition so I am ready to go
    for it.

    Current Training Regimen:

    In the winter I hit the treadmill three mornings a week, walking. 5
    mins warm up, 30 mins at 130 - 150 HR, 5 mins cool down. I swim once a
    week, 1000m at a comfortable crawl in about 28 minutes. When the
    weather warms I will cycle several times a week. One 10 mile route at a
    13 MPH avg, a couple of 3.7 mile routes at a 13 MPH avg and a few
    leisurely cruises of 5 - 10 miles at a 10 MPH avg.

    I need to be able to run/trot/jog the entire 3.1 miles of the sprint
    tri. During the tri's I typically trot for a hundred yards then walk a
    couple hundred so I end up trotting maybe 1/3 of the distance. There
    have been a few things that have kept me from running which were
    probably weight related. Shin splints and plantar fascitus (sp). I
    started wearing better shoes with good arch support and am reducing my
    gross tonnage. My BMI has gone from 41.2 down to 37.3 and is still
    dropping. The plantar is all but gone, shin splints I have had even
    before I was fat. I discovered the special pain which is shin splints
    back in the late 70's while in basic at Ft Knox.

    Thanks in advance for any advice regarding shin splints or my training
    in general.

  4. the only that will amke you go faster is to go faster.

    Instead of a steady swim throw some 25-20 sprint sets in there. Do some
    track work. Jog 800 m,sprint 100m 4 times and then 4x400m taking as much
    time as it took you to get around to rest. Biking, for big guys like us the
    hills are killer, 1st get a road no matter how old, get an bianchi or trek
    you can them for about $100-200 for an 80-90. Once you get a bike Do hill
    repeats on the bike. Find a good hill, not too steep, about the same as a
    highway off ramp (do not use an off ramp) make sure it is long to take about
    1-2 min to get and then repeat going up about 10-1 times rsting at the top
    and then coasting down before going again.

    Another thing for us big guys is to get some good shoes, make sure they fit
    and offer support.
    "tiwang" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hello all,

    I started doing sprint distance triathlons last year and would like to
    improve my performance this year. Last year I did three events with my
    best time being 2 hrs 5 minutes. I am looking for some advice in tuning
    up my training. I am not interested in equipment advice as much as
    improving my physical performance. I currently ride a Trek 700 hybrid
    and no doubt a decent road bike would make a difference. Maybe after my
    performace improvement curve flattens I will consider a new bike but
    for now that is not my focus. I want to do at least another three
    sprint tri's this summer and then begin training for the olympic
    distance tri's. These things are addictive! Just had an EKG and stress
    test, Dr says my heart is in excellent condition so I am ready to go
    for it.

    Current Training Regimen:

    In the winter I hit the treadmill three mornings a week, walking. 5
    mins warm up, 30 mins at 130 - 150 HR, 5 mins cool down. I swim once a
    week, 1000m at a comfortable crawl in about 28 minutes. When the
    weather warms I will cycle several times a week. One 10 mile route at a
    13 MPH avg, a couple of 3.7 mile routes at a 13 MPH avg and a few
    leisurely cruises of 5 - 10 miles at a 10 MPH avg.

    I need to be able to run/trot/jog the entire 3.1 miles of the sprint
    tri. During the tri's I typically trot for a hundred yards then walk a
    couple hundred so I end up trotting maybe 1/3 of the distance. There
    have been a few things that have kept me from running which were
    probably weight related. Shin splints and plantar fascitus (sp). I
    started wearing better shoes with good arch support and am reducing my
    gross tonnage. My BMI has gone from 41.2 down to 37.3 and is still
    dropping. The plantar is all but gone, shin splints I have had even
    before I was fat. I discovered the special pain which is shin splints
    back in the late 70's while in basic at Ft Knox.

    Thanks in advance for any advice regarding shin splints or my training
    in general.

  5. tiwang said:


    Thanks in advance for any advice regarding shin splints or my training
    in general.

    I've had a few problems with calves and shins, and what I've found is
    that swimming on the day of a run or the day after and using flippers
    for some of that swim really gives a good stretch. And of course you
    also get in a swim session.

    DaveB

  6. 3 thoughts for you on this:

    1 - Surface

    By far one of the best surfaces you can train or run on is hard pack
    dirt, similar to a track field around a high school football stadium or
    a running path like at a local park or along a flood control channel.
    This will greatly reduce the stress you have on your shins. When given
    the choice, try to train this way.

    2 - Mileage

    Do not increase running mileage by more than 10%. If you increase
    mileage 10% and pain presents then reduce back to the previous mileage.

    3 - Shoes

    You mentioned it and special control shoes, but being a large IM
    triathlete I can tell you that one of the best shoes for large runners
    is the Brooks Beast. It can take a pounding. Plus, since you are large
    like me, you need to make sure you adhere to the advice of getting new
    shoes often! Write the date on your shoes in permanent marker and
    change them around anywhere from 250-400 miles. With your training of
    approx. 9 miles a week you should get a pair of shoes to last about
    6-10 months.

  7. tiwang said:

    Hello all,

    I started doing sprint distance triathlons last year and would like to
    improve my performance this year. Last year I did three events with my
    best time being 2 hrs 5 minutes. I am looking for some advice in tuning
    up my training. I am not interested in equipment advice as much as
    improving my physical performance. I currently ride a Trek 700 hybrid
    and no doubt a decent road bike would make a difference. Maybe after my
    performace improvement curve flattens I will consider a new bike but
    for now that is not my focus. I want to do at least another three
    sprint tri's this summer and then begin training for the olympic
    distance tri's. These things are addictive! Just had an EKG and stress
    test, Dr says my heart is in excellent condition so I am ready to go
    for it.

    Current Training Regimen:

    In the winter I hit the treadmill three mornings a week, walking. 5
    mins warm up, 30 mins at 130 - 150 HR, 5 mins cool down. I swim once a
    week, 1000m at a comfortable crawl in about 28 minutes. When the
    weather warms I will cycle several times a week. One 10 mile route at a
    13 MPH avg, a couple of 3.7 mile routes at a 13 MPH avg and a few
    leisurely cruises of 5 - 10 miles at a 10 MPH avg.

    I need to be able to run/trot/jog the entire 3.1 miles of the sprint
    tri. During the tri's I typically trot for a hundred yards then walk a
    couple hundred so I end up trotting maybe 1/3 of the distance. There
    have been a few things that have kept me from running which were
    probably weight related. Shin splints and plantar fascitus (sp). I
    started wearing better shoes with good arch support and am reducing my
    gross tonnage. My BMI has gone from 41.2 down to 37.3 and is still
    dropping. The plantar is all but gone, shin splints I have had even
    before I was fat. I discovered the special pain which is shin splints
    back in the late 70's while in basic at Ft Knox.

    Thanks in advance for any advice regarding shin splints or my training
    in general.

    In addition to the great advice above, make sure you have a decent
    nutrition/diet plan. The weight should come off pretty easily if
    you're training most days, but make sure you do a bit of reading to
    understand what you should be eating and when. It's important to make
    sure that your body is getting the right nutrition to deal with the
    training you're doing.

    Re the shin splints I don't have too many problems but do suffer with
    back and knee problems if I run a lot. Ice after training and good
    trainers will help, as will strengthening the calves. I also find it's
    useful to substitute sessions on the cross trainer for runs. Not
    perfect but more sports specific than cycling. I'd be inclined to take
    a total break from running and work on losing weight and strengthening
    your calves until the shin splints go away entirely. You can then
    reintroduce running very gradually - starting slow and short and not
    increasing the mileage by more than 5-10% a week. I know people who
    have run respectable triathlon times with virtually no running
    training.

    Most people reckon you need to swim at least 2 or 3 times a week to
    achieve and maintain decent technique. It sounds as though at the
    moment the swim is your best leg so maybe you don't need to worry so
    much but bear it in mind as your run and bike improve - 1000m once a
    week isn't going to improve your swim time any.

    Also try some indoor cycling in the winter - a turbotrainer's best if
    you've got one but if not then the bikes down your local gym or going
    to a spin class is good.

  8. "tiwang" <[email hidden]> wrote...

    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    I need to be able to run/trot/jog the entire 3.1 miles of the sprint
    tri. During the tri's I typically trot for a hundred yards then walk a
    couple hundred so I end up trotting maybe 1/3 of the distance. There
    have been a few things that have kept me from running which were
    probably weight related. Shin splints and plantar fascitus (sp). I
    started wearing better shoes with good arch support and am reducing my
    gross tonnage. My BMI has gone from 41.2 down to 37.3 and is still
    dropping. The plantar is all but gone, shin splints I have had even
    before I was fat. I discovered the special pain which is shin splints
    back in the late 70's while in basic at Ft Knox.

    I used to struggle with shin splints when I ran cross country and track in
    high school. After high school, I took up *ballet* and the shin splints
    went away just like that, and never came back.

    <pause for effect>

    Relax, you don't have to sign up for ballet classes. What you have to do is
    tone the muscles of your feet and lower legs so that they can support your
    running. Every morning, I roll my feet over a cylindrical object (like a
    bottle) for about five minutes, and then stretch my feet - both tops and
    bottoms. Twice a week (usually during a weight session), I'll do a couple
    of sets of calf raisers on the stairs and then turn around and do toe
    raisers. That is, I stand with my heels on the edge of the stair and raise
    my toes.

    This will build strong, flexible feet and ankles that can absorb the impact
    of running instead of passing it to your shins. Also, the extra flexibility
    in your feet and ankles will help your swimming. That's a nice "extra".

    Don't overstride and hit the ground heel first when you run. Instead, learn
    to run by landing on your forefoot and letting your heels just touch the
    ground. Keep your legs under you, so to speak. Lean forward and feel like
    your legs are going up and down instead of reaching out.

    Dr. Nikolai Romonov is a pioneer at teaching this style of running, and he
    has a website - www.posetech.com. He is somewhat of a huckster, that is,
    he's out to sell you stuff. But I've used his methods for years, and I
    *never* get injured.

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