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why do they cheat?

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  1. Eight cross-country skiers competing in the Olympics, including two
    Americans, were suspended for five days after they were found to have
    excessive hemoglobin levels, the International Ski Federation announced
    Thursday.

    The cross-country testing was done by the ski federation, which said it
    sampled 224 athletes over two days this week. Athletes are training for the
    games at Pragelato.

    Hemoglobin is the part of a red blood cell that carries oxygen from the
    lungs to all cells and can increase endurance. Illicit strategies such as
    the use of synthetic hemoglobin and blood transfusions have been used by
    some athletes to increase the oxygen in the muscles.

    The American athletes are Kikkan Randall, 23, from Anchorage, Alaska, and
    Leif Zimmermann, 22, of Bozeman, Mont. The others are: Sean Crooks of
    Canada, Sergey Dalidovich of Belarus, Jean Marc Gaillard of France,
    Aleksandr Latzukin of Belarus, Natalia Matveeva of Russia, and Evi
    Sachenbacher of Germany.
    -----------
    Looks like those cross-country skiers picked a few pointers from cyclists
    doing winter cross-training on boards.

  2. The questrion, "why do they cheat" is a good one.

    To me, taking banned substances is the same sort of cheating that
    turning the engine on in your sailboat during a race would be.

    Any sailor who who do htat would be laughed and scorned at--but
    moreover, one wouldn't do it because it takes away the whole point of
    the race. In cheating like that , one does not win.

    So, your question is good. Are athletes ethically challenged?

  3. "Callistus Valerius" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Eight cross-country skiers competing in the Olympics, including two
    Americans, were suspended for five days after they were found to have
    excessive hemoglobin levels, the International Ski Federation announced
    Thursday.

    The cross-country testing was done by the ski federation, which said it
    sampled 224 athletes over two days this week. Athletes are training for
    the
    games at Pragelato.

    Hemoglobin is the part of a red blood cell that carries oxygen from the
    lungs to all cells and can increase endurance. Illicit strategies such as
    the use of synthetic hemoglobin and blood transfusions have been used by
    some athletes to increase the oxygen in the muscles.

    The American athletes are Kikkan Randall, 23, from Anchorage, Alaska, and
    Leif Zimmermann, 22, of Bozeman, Mont. The others are: Sean Crooks of
    Canada, Sergey Dalidovich of Belarus, Jean Marc Gaillard of France,
    Aleksandr Latzukin of Belarus, Natalia Matveeva of Russia, and Evi
    Sachenbacher of Germany.
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    Looks like those cross-country skiers picked a few pointers from cyclists
    doing winter cross-training on boards.

    Too much honour for bicycle racing. Cross-country skiers were the first to
    use EPO, not cyclists.

    Benjo

  4. 5 DAYS???!
    Pretty wimpy. Should be at least until the Olympics are over.

  5. How do you know that they cheated? High hemoglobin levels aren't
    definitive proof of EPO use.

  6. Quoted message said:

    5 DAYS???!
    Pretty wimpy. Should be at least until the Olympics are over.

    Well, it's not like they tested positive, per say. Dehydration and
    altitude change things around quite a bit. Zimmerman, at least, claims
    to test around 17 g/dl all the time
    (http://www.fasterskier.com/racing3076.html), and is really a buffoon
    not to have clearence from the FIS yet. This is more indicative of the
    idiocy of having a set hematocrit/hemoglibin level for all athletes
    than of drug use. You can expect a rant about this on my page tomorrow.

    -Cosmo
    http://cyclocosm.com

    http://www.fasterskier.com/racing3076.html

  7. Quoted message said:

    Well, it's not like they tested positive, per say. Dehydration and
    altitude change things around quite a bit. Zimmerman, at least, claims
    to test around 17 g/dl all the time
    (http://www.fasterskier.com/racing3076.html), and is really a buffoon
    not to have clearence from the FIS yet. This is more indicative of the
    idiocy of having a set hematocrit/hemoglibin level for all athletes
    than of drug use. You can expect a rant about this on my page tomorrow.

    Well, call me a skeptic but when people claim accidents and
    ignorance about stuff everyone knows about, I gotta wonder.
    Especially when it is a sport with a long history of doping
    like XC Skiing. I think it is an indicator that some of those
    guys, maybe not all, are doping.

    Every single pro bike racer knows about the test and the
    trouble it can cause. So they take appropriate measures, read
    Voet's book. Skiers are every bit as smart about this stuff
    as cyclists. Or they should be.

    Bob Schwartz

  8. All you guys still on this? none of you UNDERSTAND a flippin' thing.
    Go back to sitting behind your computers and entering dull numbers or
    whatever it is you do.

    Give over guys!!!! You'll seemingly never get it.

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