I am thinking of moving to a SS and was thinking of the Monocog. The rear hub spacing scares me but I don't know much about BMX hubs, etc. I don't build my own wheels so I would have to have wheels built special if I ever needed some. I see that right now Jenson sells wheelsets for the Monocog but what about 2 - 3 years from now. Would it be a major inconvenience to have wheels built with a BMX hub? In addition, I have seen some complaints of the seatpost slipping but that they acknowledged the wrong size post shipping on some bikes. I gave my old bike that I was going to build into a SS to my friend's son a few years ago. I think it would have cost just as much to convert (1993 Bridgestone) as to buy one of these anyway.
Would you buy one? They look fun. I think I will go to my local Redline dealer and check them out for curiousity sake.
Subject: Redline Monocog From: "George L. Porter, IV" gporter1970<nospam @cox.net> Date: 9/7/2003 5:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time Message-id: <q1N6b.48155$Zw4.19392@lakeread03>
I am thinking of moving to a SS and was thinking of the Monocog. The rear hub spacing scares me but I don't know much about BMX hubs, etc. I don't build my own wheels so I would have to have wheels built special if I ever needed some. I see that right now Jenson sells wheelsets for the Monocog but what about 2 - 3 years from now. Would it be a major inconvenience to have wheels built with a BMX hub? In addition, I have seen some complaints of the seatpost slipping but that they acknowledged the wrong size post shipping on some bikes. I gave my old bike that I was going to build into a SS to my friend's son a few years ago. I think it would have cost just as much to convert (1993 Bridgestone) as to buy one of these anyway.
Would you buy one? They look fun. I think I will go to my local Redline dealer and check them out for curiousity sake.
Thanks GP
I have a 2003 Monocog, and was made aware of the seat post slip too, but to this day hasn't budged under my hefty 175 pounds.
You'll really enjoy the bike. In fact, it's hard to even go back to a hardtail after riding it, just because it handles so precise and accelerates so quick.Even with only 80mm of travel on my hardtail, the front suspended hardtail feels sloppy after riding the Monoog. It's a great feeling riding with someone else who has a mulit geared bike, especially when climbing, when you go past them so effortlessly.
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Would you buy one?
No. Poor tolerances and non-mountain bike specific rear hub spacing is plenty of reason to steer clear. You get what you pay for. The Bridgestone would probably make a much better ride.
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I am thinking of moving to a SS and was thinking of the Monocog. The rear hub spacing scares me but I don't know much about BMX hubs, etc. I don't build my own wheels so I would have to have wheels built special if I ever needed some. I see that right now Jenson sells wheelsets for the Monocog but what about 2 - 3 years from now. Would it be a major inconvenience to have wheels built with a BMX hub?
Not really, other than that you will be limited to 36H (or 48...) hubs and of course a nutted axle instead of a Q.R.
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Not really, other than that you will be limited to 36H (or 48...) hubs and of course a nutted axle instead of a Q.R.
All SS's should have nutted axles, not QR's on the rear. QR's don't have enough power to hold the tension that is necessary on the chain especially when using "track" dropouts, they slip too easily when torqued.
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I am thinking of moving to a SS and was thinking of the Monocog. The rear hub spacing scares me but I don't know much about BMX hubs, etc. I don't build my own wheels so I would have to have wheels built special if I ever needed some. I see that right now Jenson sells wheelsets for the Monocog but what about 2 - 3 years from now. Would it be a major inconvenience to have wheels built with a BMX hub? In addition, I have seen some complaints of the seatpost slipping but that they acknowledged the wrong size post shipping on some bikes. I gave my old bike that I was going to build into a SS to my friend's son a few years ago. I think it would have cost just as much to convert (1993 Bridgestone) as to buy one of these anyway.
Would you buy one? They look fun. I think I will go to my local Redline dealer and check them out for curiousity sake.
Thanks GP
I probably wouldn't buy one -- I'd probably put a new wheel on the Bridgestone. I don't know how much the Redline's going for, but I can't imagine it wouldn't be considerably cheaper. Plus, I'm 6'2, and I have yet to see a Monocog that doesn't look way too small. With that said, a slipping seatpost is easily fixed with a beercan shim. Otherwise, I couldn't find stuff on the site regarding rear dropout spacing. Is the spacing wider than a BMX hub? Or are you just nervous about using a BMX hub? Any decent wheelbuilder can build you just about any wheel you'd like, and I'm sure the flanges are well-wider than flanges on any geared MTB, so wheel strength shouldn't be an issue. And as far as the width between dropouts versus hub width goes, slight differences shouldn't matter a whole lot on a steel frame. I've got an lightweight (for the time) 80's Nishiki road racing frame with a fixie hub in back that's 5mm narrower than the dropouts. I should shim it, but don't. It's got a gazillion potholed miles on it, and hasn't cracked yet (knock on wood). /s /s
I don't know what I will do.... I really don't want to get stuck with a misfit bike that I have to search for a wheel. I would like to get something with normal MTB spacing. I wish I still had my old bike. Maybe I can pick up a frame cheap and put a wheel, singlespeed crank/bottom bracket, and singulator.
That would probably be the best and be in the spirit of singlespeeding. Maybe convert my hardtail and be done with it....
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I am thinking of moving to a SS and was thinking of the Monocog. The
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hub spacing scares me but I don't know much about BMX hubs, etc. I
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build my own wheels so I would have to have wheels built special if I
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needed some. I see that right now Jenson sells wheelsets for the
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but what about 2 - 3 years from now. Would it be a major inconvenience
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have wheels built with a BMX hub? In addition, I have seen some
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of the seatpost slipping but that they acknowledged the wrong size post shipping on some bikes. I gave my old bike that I was going to build
into a
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SS to my friend's son a few years ago. I think it would have cost just
as
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much to convert (1993 Bridgestone) as to buy one of these anyway.
Would you buy one? They look fun. I think I will go to my local
Redline
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dealer and check them out for curiousity sake.
Thanks GP
I probably wouldn't buy one -- I'd probably put a new wheel on the Bridgestone. I don't know how much the Redline's going for, but I can't imagine it wouldn't be considerably cheaper. Plus, I'm 6'2, and I have yet to see a Monocog that doesn't look way too small. With that said, a slipping seatpost is easily fixed with a beercan shim. Otherwise, I couldn't find stuff on the site regarding rear dropout spacing. Is the spacing wider than a BMX hub? Or are you just nervous about using a BMX hub? Any decent wheelbuilder can build you just about any wheel you'd like, and I'm sure the flanges are well-wider than flanges on any geared MTB, so wheel strength shouldn't be an issue. And as far as the width between dropouts versus hub width goes, slight differences shouldn't matter a whole lot on a steel frame. I've got an lightweight (for the time) 80's Nishiki road racing frame with a fixie hub in back that's 5mm narrower than the dropouts. I should shim it, but don't. It's got a gazillion potholed miles on it, and hasn't cracked yet (knock on wood). /s /s
Dude get a Bianchie DSS single speed .They are much cooler than a Redline .The redline I looked at was Heavy as hell for no gears and derailers.I will get One some day .I like the DSS Big tire's and disk brakes for a good price.
