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  1. We are 4 Italians which are trying to arrange by themselves a trip to Alaska
    by bycicle. We will leave from Anchorage towards North to visit Denali Park.
    From there we will take Denali HWI SR-8 direction TOX, then HWI-9 to Dawson
    and from there we'll complete the journey on HWI-2 going into Canada up to
    Whitehorse: about 2020 km.
    We would like to have info from people that already visited these places. We
    are missing information on HWI-8, HWI-4 and HWI-1 from Cantwell to Tox,
    where for about 500 km there are very few villages and camping parks where
    have a rest or buy some food, according to the maps we studied.
    We would cover this way, dirt road up to Paxon, in five stages.
    Also HWI-9 from Tox to Dawson has few bases but distance is 300 km and
    doesn't give much worry. In this route there are 2 campings (according to
    our map), is it true?
    We would need also info on difference in height: from what we can see, rises
    do not exceed 4%.
    Any information we can have, is for us extremely important.

    Thanking you in advance, I remain awaiting your kind reply

    Sincerely

    EM

  2. In article <[email hidden]>,

    EM said:

    We are 4 Italians which are trying to arrange by themselves a trip to Alaska
    by bycicle. We will leave from Anchorage towards North to visit Denali Park.
    From there we will take Denali HWI SR-8 direction TOX, then HWI-9 to Dawson
    and from there we'll complete the journey on HWI-2 going into Canada up to
    Whitehorse: about 2020 km.

    Sounds like a great trip! I've not been up there since 1984 or 85, so
    things may have changed. I remember the roads being two lane blacktop
    with a gravel shoulder or no shoulder. Traffic tended to be light but
    did include lumber trucks and lots of camping caravans (RVs in US-speak).

    Quoted message said:

    We would like to have info from people that already visited these places. We
    are missing information on HWI-8, HWI-4 and HWI-1 from Cantwell to Tox,
    where for about 500 km there are very few villages and camping parks where
    have a rest or buy some food, according to the maps we studied.
    We would cover this way, dirt road up to Paxon, in five stages.

    You might find some ideas at some of these Web sites:

    http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/journal/categories/?o=aw&category_id=129

    Also search for "Alaska" on the crazyguyonabike Web site.

    Try the Trento Bike Pages (www.trentobike.org) and look at tours in
    Alaska and Canada. Here's one:

    http://www.trentobike.org/byauthor/MikeDvorak.html

    Quoted message said:

    Also HWI-9 from Tox to Dawson has few bases but distance is 300 km and
    doesn't give much worry. In this route there are 2 campings (according to
    our map), is it true?

    There are lots of places to camp in the wild. You will need to carry
    food and shelter, and you should be acquainted with the issue of bears
    and bear prevention. There are also youth hostels, hotels and motels
    all over Alaska and Canada, some of them in the middle of nowhere.

    Quoted message said:

    We would need also info on difference in height: from what we can see, rises
    do not exceed 4%.
    Any information we can have, is for us extremely important.

    The best resource for planning travel by road in Alaska and the
    surrounding area is The Milepost:

    http://www.themilepost.com/

    Also:

    http://www.alaskamagazine.com/

    http://www.travelalaska.com/

    http://www.cyclealaska.com/

    http://www.krabach.info/AlaskaWebPage/Alaska_bike_tour.html

  3. Tim McNamara said:


    The best resource for planning travel by road in Alaska and the
    surrounding area is The Milepost:

    http://www.themilepost.com/

    Here's another one: http://broughton.ca/bcakfaq.html

    --
    Bob Broughton
    http://broughton.ca/
    Vancouver, BC, Canada
    "I am talking about impeachment... If (George W. Bush) commits oral sex in
    the Oval Office, and I don't care with whom, that will be the straw that
    broke the camel's back. Out he goes." - Kurt Vonnegut, Oct. 7, 2005

  4. There's a book alaska bike touring guide that may be helpful at amazon:
    http://tinyurl.com/by627
    Cheers

    "EM" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    We are 4 Italians which are trying to arrange by themselves a trip to


    Alaska

    Quoted message said:

    by bycicle. We will leave from Anchorage towards North to visit Denali


    Park.

    Quoted message said:

    From there we will take Denali HWI SR-8 direction TOX, then HWI-9 to


    Dawson

    Quoted message said:

    and from there we'll complete the journey on HWI-2 going into Canada up to
    Whitehorse: about 2020 km.
    We would like to have info from people that already visited these places.


    We

    Quoted message said:

    are missing information on HWI-8, HWI-4 and HWI-1 from Cantwell to Tox,
    where for about 500 km there are very few villages and camping parks where
    have a rest or buy some food, according to the maps we studied.
    We would cover this way, dirt road up to Paxon, in five stages.
    Also HWI-9 from Tox to Dawson has few bases but distance is 300 km and
    doesn't give much worry. In this route there are 2 campings (according to
    our map), is it true?
    We would need also info on difference in height: from what we can see,


    rises

    Quoted message said:

    do not exceed 4%.
    Any information we can have, is for us extremely important.

    Thanking you in advance, I remain awaiting your kind reply

    Sincerely

    EM

  5. EM said:

    We are 4 Italians which are trying to arrange by themselves a trip to Alaska
    by bycicle. We will leave from Anchorage towards North to visit Denali Park.
    From there we will take Denali HWI SR-8 direction TOX, then HWI-9 to Dawson
    and from there we'll complete the journey on HWI-2 going into Canada up to
    Whitehorse: about 2020 km.
    We would like to have info from people that already visited these places. We
    are missing information on HWI-8, HWI-4 and HWI-1 from Cantwell to Tox,
    where for about 500 km there are very few villages and camping parks where
    have a rest or buy some food, according to the maps we studied.
    We would cover this way, dirt road up to Paxon, in five stages.
    Also HWI-9 from Tox to Dawson has few bases but distance is 300 km and
    doesn't give much worry. In this route there are 2 campings (according to
    our map), is it true?
    We would need also info on difference in height: from what we can see, rises
    do not exceed 4%.
    Any information we can have, is for us extremely important.

    Thanking you in advance, I remain awaiting your kind reply

    Buon Giorno! as others have said, you need to purchase a copy of
    the 2006 Milepost (see www.themilepost.com ) which will answer
    many of your questions. You need to remember, though, that every
    business listed in the Milepost *paid* for the listing.

    In most of Alaska and the Yukon, campgrounds are very primitive
    (no showers, just a place for tents, picnic table, grill or fire
    ring, toilets). Distances between developed campgrounds can be
    up to 3-400 km., and distances between water sources can also be
    far. Much of the land along Alaska and Yukon roads is public
    land, and there are many places to camp outside of campgrounds.

    In a dry, warm summer, many streams will dry up, so you need to
    be able to carry a lot of water. When I rode
    Haines-Whitehorse-Skagway during August a few years ago, almost
    all the streams between Haines Junction and Whitehorse were dry.

    I found that often large motor homes pulled over in wayside
    viewpoints would have a plentiful supply of water and would be
    happy to share it if asked politely. One woman that I asked for
    water made me a huge plate of pancakes because I reminded her of
    her son, and she thought I looked hungry.

    Remember that the Denali Highway between Cantwell & Paxson is
    unpaved, as is the Top of The World Highway between Tok and
    Dawson City, so you will have to contend with either dust or mud,
    since a lot of the traffic is busses or big freight trucks. The
    big trucks can throw rocks, too. You will want fenders
    (mudguards) and good *waterproof* raingear, as well as layered
    clothes. On a rainy day at higher altitudes, or at night, it can
    get quite chilly --- I have found myself wearing polyester fleece
    jerseys in July.

    I recommend that for touring you do what most of us do: DO NOT
    TAKE A THIN TIRE BIKE. If you do, you will spend a lot of time
    fixing flats since there is a lot of broken glass on the
    shoulders. Most Alaskans who tour use mountain bikes with racks
    for panniers, with inverse tread tires for riding on paved roads.
    The fat tires don't go flat as often. You will need at least one
    spare tire and a tool kit.

    Since you will be camping and cooking IN BEAR COUNTRY, you need
    to remember ONE very important rule: NEVER STORE FOOD OR COOKING
    GEAR WITH YOUR CLOTHES OR TENT. EVER. I always keep food,
    fishing gear, and cooking equipment in my front panniers, tent
    and clothes in the rear panniers. NEVER EAT, COOK, OR CLEAN FISH
    NEAR YOUR TENT. NEVER HAVE ANY FOOD IN YOUR TENT. Always hoist
    your bags up in a tree (or in tundra or alpine areas with no
    trees, hang them from the middle of a bridge high enough above
    the stream that a bear can't reach them) at night or when you are
    not in camp. See full safety rules at
    http://www.wildlife.alaska.gov/index.cfm?adfg=bears.main

    If you can find a copy of the outdated (1992) Alaska Bicycle
    Touring Guide by Pete Praetorius & Alys Culhane, it would also be
    worth having. If you have the space, the topo maps in the
    Delorme Atlas of Alaska are quite detailed, and you can see where
    the steep areas are by looking at the contours.

    If you decide to visit the beautiful fjord country of
    southeastern Alaska to fish for salmon or see the glaciers, be
    sure to email me before you come to Juneau --- I need to practice
    my bad tourist Italian so that I can visit Italy during the Giro
    sometime in the next few years!

  6. Quoted message said:

    There's a book alaska bike touring guide that may be helpful at amazon:
    http://tinyurl.com/by627

    it was last updated in 1992, 14 years ago. a long time for a
    travel book. when i used it for a trip in '97, it was definitely
    5 years out of date. a nice supplemental source, but definitely
    not primary.

  7. "Dennis P. Harris" <[email hidden]> ha scritto nel messaggio
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    EM said:

    We are 4 Italians which are trying to arrange by themselves a trip to


    Alaska

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    by bycicle. We will leave from Anchorage towards North to visit Denali


    Park.cut

    Quoted message said:

    If you decide to visit the beautiful fjord country of
    southeastern Alaska to fish for salmon or see the glaciers, be
    sure to email me before you come to Juneau --- I need to practice
    my bad tourist Italian so that I can visit Italy during the Giro
    sometime in the next few years!

    Dear cycler-friends of re.bicycles.rides I wish to thank you warmly, also in
    name of my friends of adventure, for all the information you sent us about
    Alaska and on the route we want to ride this summer. I wish to thank you,
    Dennis, very much for your invitation to come to Juneau but the exact
    bycicle-tour of 21 days from Anchorage to Whitehorse does not allow many
    variations on the schedule. But if you , sooner or later, will come to
    Italy, you can contact me. I leave in Friuli area, near the easter Alps,
    just a hundred kilometers from the great DOLOMITI. The Dolomites stages of
    the GIRO D'ITALIA are for us a fixed appointment, as well as training on
    Pordoi, Sella, Fedaia, Falzarego..

    Give me a shout...

    Ciao

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