Bar weight

"Hugh Beyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Somebody please tell me that there are evil non-standard bars out there
that
weigh, oh, say, 5# more than a real bar.

This week and last week I've been at random gyms where the bars seem
thicker
to me. Coincidentally, both weeks my upper body workouts have sucked. Even
more coincidentally, the exercises using dumbells haven't sucked and on
one
I went up to the next heavier DBs, even while not achieving what I did
last
week on the bench.

So I say the bar is heavier. That's my story. And I'm sticking to it.

Don't despair Hugh - won't be long now before the regular stalwarts (with
Lee Michaels and Dally leading the charge) will regale you with their
personal experiences about heavier bars and random gyms. You are not alone!

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"Hugh Beyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Somebody please tell me that there are evil non-standard bars out there
that
weigh, oh, say, 5# more than a real bar.

This week and last week I've been at random gyms where the bars seem
thicker
to me. Coincidentally, both weeks my upper body workouts have sucked.
Even
more coincidentally, the exercises using dumbells haven't sucked and on
one
I went up to the next heavier DBs, even while not achieving what I did
last
week on the bench.

So I say the bar is heavier. That's my story. And I'm sticking to it.

Don't despair Hugh - won't be long now before the regular stalwarts (with
Lee Michaels and Dally leading the charge) will regale you with their
personal experiences about heavier bars and random gyms. You are not
alone!

Sorry, I meant to say with their 'fascinating' personal experiences . . . .

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 18:25:32 +1000, "David" <[email hidden]>

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"Hugh Beyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Somebody please tell me that there are evil non-standard bars out there
that
weigh, oh, say, 5# more than a real bar.

This week and last week I've been at random gyms where the bars seem
thicker
to me. Coincidentally, both weeks my upper body workouts have sucked.
Even
more coincidentally, the exercises using dumbells haven't sucked and on
one
I went up to the next heavier DBs, even while not achieving what I did
last
week on the bench.

So I say the bar is heavier. That's my story. And I'm sticking to it.

Don't despair Hugh - won't be long now before the regular stalwarts (with
Lee Michaels and Dally leading the charge) will regale you with their
personal experiences about heavier bars and random gyms. You are not
alone!

Sorry, I meant to say with their 'fascinating' personal experiences . . . .

It is indeed an education to read the advice that Dolly offers from
her wealth and depth of experience.

Since I have followed her advice I have noticed an incredible
improvement in my own performance, and a peace of mind not known
hitherto, just knowing that she is there to support and encourage.

Hugh Beyer said:

Somebody please tell me that there are evil non-standard bars out there that
weigh, oh, say, 5# more than a real bar.

This week and last week I've been at random gyms where the bars seem thicker
to me. Coincidentally, both weeks my upper body workouts have sucked. Even
more coincidentally, the exercises using dumbells haven't sucked and on one
I went up to the next heavier DBs, even while not achieving what I did last
week on the bench.

So I say the bar is heavier. That's my story. And I'm sticking to it.

Hugh

I've found oly bars varying in length and thickness as well as more than
10lbs in weight. It's hard to gauge when you're not using the same bar
each time, or at a gym that weighs and engraves their bars.

Ari

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"Hugh Beyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Somebody please tell me that there are evil non-standard bars out there
> that
> weigh, oh, say, 5# more than a real bar.
>
> This week and last week I've been at random gyms where the bars seem
> thicker
> to me. Coincidentally, both weeks my upper body workouts have sucked.
> Even
> more coincidentally, the exercises using dumbells haven't sucked and on
> one
> I went up to the next heavier DBs, even while not achieving what I did
> last
> week on the bench.
>
> So I say the bar is heavier. That's my story. And I'm sticking to it.

Don't despair Hugh - won't be long now before the regular stalwarts
(with
Lee Michaels and Dally leading the charge) will regale you with their
personal experiences about heavier bars and random gyms. You are not
alone!

Sorry, I meant to say with their 'fascinating' personal experiences . . .
.

It is indeed an education to read the advice that Dolly offers from
her wealth and depth of experience.

Since I have followed her advice I have noticed an incredible
improvement in my own performance, and a peace of mind not known
hitherto, just knowing that she is there to support and encourage.

My thoughts exactly. She is an inspiration - after all being an athlete
herself does put her on the pedestal where she just shines and shines and
spreads her wisdom to us peons. I do feel we are all so fortunate to have
Dilly here to fascinate and enthrall us day after day after day after day.
She is a goddess to me and I am sure to very many of us. A role model of
immense width and breadth!

spodosaurus said:

Hugh Beyer said:

Somebody please tell me that there are evil non-standard bars out there that
weigh, oh, say, 5# more than a real bar.

This week and last week I've been at random gyms where the bars seem thicker
to me. Coincidentally, both weeks my upper body workouts have sucked. Even
more coincidentally, the exercises using dumbells haven't sucked and on one
I went up to the next heavier DBs, even while not achieving what I did last
week on the bench.

So I say the bar is heavier. That's my story. And I'm sticking to it.

I've found oly bars varying in length and thickness as well as more than
10lbs in weight. It's hard to gauge when you're not using the same bar
each time, or at a gym that weighs and engraves their bars.

Additionally, a problem unique to a few areas of the world...Las Vegas;
Los Alamos, New Mexico; Hiroshima...is that deposition of nuclear
fission products has increased the mass of the area, and thus,
increased local gravity, so, stuff weighs more here.

Las Vegas also has to cope with heavy silicone induced gravitational
effects.

David

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spodosaurus said:

Hugh Beyer said:

Somebody please tell me that there are evil non-standard bars out there
that
weigh, oh, say, 5# more than a real bar.

This week and last week I've been at random gyms where the bars seem
thicker
to me. Coincidentally, both weeks my upper body workouts have sucked.
Even
more coincidentally, the exercises using dumbells haven't sucked and on
one
I went up to the next heavier DBs, even while not achieving what I did
last
week on the bench.

So I say the bar is heavier. That's my story. And I'm sticking to it.

I've found oly bars varying in length and thickness as well as more than
10lbs in weight. It's hard to gauge when you're not using the same bar
each time, or at a gym that weighs and engraves their bars.

Additionally, a problem unique to a few areas of the world...Las Vegas;
Los Alamos, New Mexico; Hiroshima...is that deposition of nuclear
fission products has increased the mass of the area, and thus,
increased local gravity, so, stuff weighs more here.

Las Vegas also has to cope with heavy silicone induced gravitational
effects.

I always thought it was all that hot air around Las Vegas that caused the
additional weight - hot air is heavier than cold air. Right?

Lee Michaels said:

"David Cohen" wrote

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spodosaurus said:

Hugh Beyer wrote:
> Somebody please tell me that there are evil non-standard bars out there
> that
> weigh, oh, say, 5# more than a real bar.
>
> This week and last week I've been at random gyms where the bars seem
> thicker
> to me. Coincidentally, both weeks my upper body workouts have sucked.
> Even
> more coincidentally, the exercises using dumbells haven't sucked and on
> one
> I went up to the next heavier DBs, even while not achieving what I did
> last
> week on the bench.
>
> So I say the bar is heavier. That's my story. And I'm sticking to it.

I've found oly bars varying in length and thickness as well as more than
10lbs in weight. It's hard to gauge when you're not using the same bar
each time, or at a gym that weighs and engraves their bars.

Additionally, a problem unique to a few areas of the world...Las Vegas;
Los Alamos, New Mexico; Hiroshima...is that deposition of nuclear
fission products has increased the mass of the area, and thus,
increased local gravity, so, stuff weighs more here.

Las Vegas also has to cope with heavy silicone induced gravitational
effects.

Is that an expert medical opinion?

I've always found myself drawn to deposits of silicone, so, I just
assumed it was gravity at work.

David

David said:

"David Cohen" <[email hidden]> wrote

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spodosaurus said:

Hugh Beyer wrote:
> Somebody please tell me that there are evil non-standard bars out there
> that
> weigh, oh, say, 5# more than a real bar.
>
> This week and last week I've been at random gyms where the bars seem
> thicker
> to me. Coincidentally, both weeks my upper body workouts have sucked.
> Even
> more coincidentally, the exercises using dumbells haven't sucked and on
> one
> I went up to the next heavier DBs, even while not achieving what I did
> last
> week on the bench.
>
> So I say the bar is heavier. That's my story. And I'm sticking to it.

I've found oly bars varying in length and thickness as well as more than
10lbs in weight. It's hard to gauge when you're not using the same bar
each time, or at a gym that weighs and engraves their bars.

Additionally, a problem unique to a few areas of the world...Las Vegas;
Los Alamos, New Mexico; Hiroshima...is that deposition of nuclear
fission products has increased the mass of the area, and thus,
increased local gravity, so, stuff weighs more here.

Las Vegas also has to cope with heavy silicone induced gravitational
effects.

I always thought it was all that hot air around Las Vegas that caused the
additional weight - hot air is heavier than cold air. Right?

If so, then the capital cities of every country on Earth would have
long ago been crushed under the weight.

And Ted "Can't Drive Can Swim" Kennedy would be a pancake.

David

"David Cohen" wrote

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spodosaurus said:

Hugh Beyer said:

Somebody please tell me that there are evil non-standard bars out there
that
weigh, oh, say, 5# more than a real bar.

This week and last week I've been at random gyms where the bars seem
thicker
to me. Coincidentally, both weeks my upper body workouts have sucked.
Even
more coincidentally, the exercises using dumbells haven't sucked and on
one
I went up to the next heavier DBs, even while not achieving what I did
last
week on the bench.

So I say the bar is heavier. That's my story. And I'm sticking to it.

I've found oly bars varying in length and thickness as well as more than
10lbs in weight. It's hard to gauge when you're not using the same bar
each time, or at a gym that weighs and engraves their bars.

Additionally, a problem unique to a few areas of the world...Las Vegas;
Los Alamos, New Mexico; Hiroshima...is that deposition of nuclear
fission products has increased the mass of the area, and thus,
increased local gravity, so, stuff weighs more here.

Las Vegas also has to cope with heavy silicone induced gravitational
effects.

Is that an expert medical opinion?

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 20:00:40 +1000, "David" <[email hidden]>

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I always thought it was all that hot air around Las Vegas that caused the
additional weight - hot air is heavier than cold air. Right?

If that were true, I'd weigh several tons.

Hugh Beyer said:

Somebody please tell me that there are evil non-standard bars

out

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there that weigh, oh, say, 5# more than a real bar.

This week and last week I've been at random gyms where the

bars

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seem thicker to me. Coincidentally, both weeks my upper body
workouts have sucked. Even more coincidentally, the exercises

using

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dumbells haven't sucked and on one I went up to the next

heavier

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DBs, even while not achieving what I did last week on the

bench.

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So I say the bar is heavier. That's my story. And I'm sticking

to

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it.

The diameter and weight of gym bars varies quite a bit; dias of
28mm to 31mm usually. The ones that feel fat are 31mm or 32mm.

Most bars are supposed to weigh 45 lbs or 20kg (44) but they
rarely do. If you've got a scale at your gym, weigh them. I have
seen 28mm 7' bars weigh 41 lbs and 31mm bars weigh 46 lbs. Also
the weight plates themselves aren't accurate. Plates can be off
by 5-8% for cheap plates and 2% for the better stuff. Yes,
that's right; unless you use the same plates and bar every time
in the gym, the weight is different.

Many bars used in powerlifting competition are longer than
normal and weigh 55 lbs. or for Olympic lifting, 20kg. Ivanko
Competition plates are quite often used at meets and the weight
is accurate.

locker

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Hugh

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 04:49:47 -0800, "locker" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Many bars used in powerlifting competition are longer than
normal and weigh 55 lbs. or for Olympic lifting, 20kg. Ivanko
Competition plates are quite often used at meets and the weight
is accurate.

No, bars weighing more than 20 kilos are rarely used in competition
and only one or two feds use the 25 kilo squat bar. A small handful
will use a longer bar for the deadlift. USPF and USAPL will ALWAYS
use a 20 kilo bar for meets run in kilos and 45 pound bars in meets
with pound plates.

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David Cohen said:

spodosaurus said:

Hugh Beyer said:

Somebody please tell me that there are evil non-standard bars out there
that
weigh, oh, say, 5# more than a real bar.

This week and last week I've been at random gyms where the bars seem
thicker
to me. Coincidentally, both weeks my upper body workouts have sucked.
Even
more coincidentally, the exercises using dumbells haven't sucked and on
one
I went up to the next heavier DBs, even while not achieving what I did
last
week on the bench.

So I say the bar is heavier. That's my story. And I'm sticking to it.

I've found oly bars varying in length and thickness as well as more than
10lbs in weight. It's hard to gauge when you're not using the same bar
each time, or at a gym that weighs and engraves their bars.

Additionally, a problem unique to a few areas of the world...Las Vegas;
Los Alamos, New Mexico; Hiroshima...is that deposition of nuclear
fission products has increased the mass of the area, and thus,
increased local gravity, so, stuff weighs more here.

Las Vegas also has to cope with heavy silicone induced gravitational
effects.

I gro...

I mean _coped_ quite well during my short visit there.

--
Keith

Hobbes said:

David Cohen said:

spodosaurus said:

Hugh Beyer wrote:
> Somebody please tell me that there are evil non-standard bars out there
> that
> weigh, oh, say, 5# more than a real bar.
>
> This week and last week I've been at random gyms where the bars seem
> thicker
> to me. Coincidentally, both weeks my upper body workouts have sucked.
> Even
> more coincidentally, the exercises using dumbells haven't sucked and on
> one
> I went up to the next heavier DBs, even while not achieving what I did
> last
> week on the bench.
>
> So I say the bar is heavier. That's my story. And I'm sticking to it.

I've found oly bars varying in length and thickness as well as more than
10lbs in weight. It's hard to gauge when you're not using the same bar
each time, or at a gym that weighs and engraves their bars.

Additionally, a problem unique to a few areas of the world...Las Vegas;
Los Alamos, New Mexico; Hiroshima...is that deposition of nuclear
fission products has increased the mass of the area, and thus,
increased local gravity, so, stuff weighs more here.

Las Vegas also has to cope with heavy silicone induced gravitational
effects.

I gro...

I mean _coped_ quite well during my short visit there.

Alcohol has a conteracting effect on localized gravity flucuations.

Your horse would have appreciated more alcohol in ya'!

David

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David Cohen said:

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Las Vegas also has to cope with heavy silicone induced gravitational
effects.

Is that an expert medical opinion?

I've always found myself drawn to deposits of silicone, so, I just
assumed it was gravity at work.

If I want to fondle $10,000 worth of silicone, I'll buy a bigger
computer...... ;-)
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

OmManiPadmeOmelet <[email hidden]> wrote in news:Omelet-
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In article <[email hidden]>,

David Cohen said:

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> Las Vegas also has to cope with heavy silicone induced gravitational
> effects.
>
Is that an expert medical opinion?

I've always found myself drawn to deposits of silicone, so, I just
assumed it was gravity at work.

If I want to fondle $10,000 worth of silicone, I'll buy a bigger
computer...... ;-)

Amen to that.

Hugh

--
Exercise is a dirty word. Whenever I hear it, I wash my mouth out with
chocolate. ("Ladi"😉

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David said:

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spodosaurus wrote:
> Hugh Beyer wrote:
> > Somebody please tell me that there are evil non-standard bars out
> > there that
> > weigh, oh, say, 5# more than a real bar.
> >
> > This week and last week I've been at random gyms where the bars
> > seem thicker
> > to me. Coincidentally, both weeks my upper body workouts have
> > sucked. Even
> > more coincidentally, the exercises using dumbells haven't sucked
> > and on one
> > I went up to the next heavier DBs, even while not achieving what I
> > did last
> > week on the bench.
> >
> > So I say the bar is heavier. That's my story. And I'm sticking to
> > it.
>
> I've found oly bars varying in length and thickness as well as more
> than 10lbs in weight. It's hard to gauge when you're not using the
> same bar each time, or at a gym that weighs and engraves their bars.

Additionally, a problem unique to a few areas of the world...Las
Vegas; Los Alamos, New Mexico; Hiroshima...is that deposition of
nuclear fission products has increased the mass of the area, and
thus, increased local gravity, so, stuff weighs more here.

Las Vegas also has to cope with heavy silicone induced gravitational
effects.

I always thought it was all that hot air around Las Vegas that caused
the additional weight - hot air is heavier than cold air. Right?

If so, then the capital cities of every country on Earth would have
long ago been crushed under the weight.

And Ted "Can't Drive Can Swim" Kennedy would be a pancake.

Hot air is lighter.

So it, um, doesn't support objects as well as cold air, just like air
doesn't support objects as well as water, so they feel heavier.

Hugh

--
Exercise is a dirty word. Whenever I hear it, I wash my mouth out with
chocolate. ("Ladi"😉

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

If I want to fondle $10,000 worth of silicone, I'll buy a bigger
computer.....

Isn't one of your blowup "mates" made of silicone?