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  1. I am usually 75 to 80 kg (165 to 175 pound) but I have put on an
    extra 20 kg.

    Most of the weight is around my waist.

    Am wondering if some of the weight gain is due to fluid retention in
    the abdomen.

    We are all a bit different but if you are overweight, do you get the
    same result as I do:

    When I tense my tummy muscles and poke and prod my belly I find that
    there's about half an inch (maybe one inch) of fat. Below that it is
    muscle. And I guess the remaining extra fat is under or maybe
    somehow in the layers of muscle.

    At about 20 percent overweight I thought my belly would feel as if it
    were made of floppy fat and the muscle would lie under that outer
    layer of fat. Doesn't seem to be so.

    Do other people get much the same result as I do?

  2. Men tend to carry intra-abdominal fat. It is beneath the muscle and
    surrounds the abdominal organs. Women tend to carry their fat outside the
    abdominal wall which isn't as risky to the health.

    Tara

    "Peter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I am usually 75 to 80 kg (165 to 175 pound) but I have put on an
    extra 20 kg.

    Most of the weight is around my waist.

    Am wondering if some of the weight gain is due to fluid retention in
    the abdomen.

    We are all a bit different but if you are overweight, do you get the
    same result as I do:

    When I tense my tummy muscles and poke and prod my belly I find that
    there's about half an inch (maybe one inch) of fat. Below that it is
    muscle. And I guess the remaining extra fat is under or maybe
    somehow in the layers of muscle.

    At about 20 percent overweight I thought my belly would feel as if it
    were made of floppy fat and the muscle would lie under that outer
    layer of fat. Doesn't seem to be so.

    Do other people get much the same result as I do?

  3. "Peter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I am usually 75 to 80 kg (165 to 175 pound) but I have put on an
    extra 20 kg.

    Most of the weight is around my waist.

    Am wondering if some of the weight gain is due to fluid retention in
    the abdomen.

    We are all a bit different but if you are overweight, do you get the
    same result as I do:

    When I tense my tummy muscles and poke and prod my belly I find that
    there's about half an inch (maybe one inch) of fat. Below that it is
    muscle. And I guess the remaining extra fat is under or maybe
    somehow in the layers of muscle.

    At about 20 percent overweight I thought my belly would feel as if it
    were made of floppy fat and the muscle would lie under that outer
    layer of fat. Doesn't seem to be so.

    Do other people get much the same result as I do?

    I once disected a rat in a zoology class. It turned out I had a fat rat. I
    was hard to study because it had a thick layer of yellow fat all over it's
    internal organs. I always thought that fat was like a layer on top of the
    organs and below the skin but it's not, it's all through the body and around
    the organs. Just because your tummy feels pretty firm doesn't mean theres
    not much fat in there.

    Judy

  4. Queenjude said:

    I once disected a rat in a zoology class. It turned out I had a fat rat. I
    was hard to study because it had a thick layer of yellow fat all over it's
    internal organs. I always thought that fat was like a layer on top of the
    organs and below the skin but it's not, it's all through the body and around
    the organs. Just because your tummy feels pretty firm doesn't mean theres
    not much fat in there.
    Judy

    If you really want to gross your self out in the name of science, do a
    Google image search on the greater omentum. It's basically a lace
    tablecloth of fat that surrounds your intestines. Out of all the
    things that stayed with me post human anatomy dissection labs, the
    greater omentum was it. I still get nauseated when I think about it
    too much.
    -L.

  5. Likely not fluid retention, but "abdominal fat" that is inside the
    abdominal wall. When was the last time you checked your blood sugar
    for diabetes.

    i

    Peter said:

    I am usually 75 to 80 kg (165 to 175 pound) but I have put on an
    extra 20 kg.

    Most of the weight is around my waist.

    Am wondering if some of the weight gain is due to fluid retention in
    the abdomen.

    We are all a bit different but if you are overweight, do you get the
    same result as I do:

    When I tense my tummy muscles and poke and prod my belly I find that
    there's about half an inch (maybe one inch) of fat. Below that it is
    muscle. And I guess the remaining extra fat is under or maybe
    somehow in the layers of muscle.

    At about 20 percent overweight I thought my belly would feel as if it
    were made of floppy fat and the muscle would lie under that outer
    layer of fat. Doesn't seem to be so.

    Do other people get much the same result as I do?

    --
    223/174.0/180

  6. -L. wrote:
    :: Queenjude wrote:
    ::: I once disected a rat in a zoology class. It turned out I had a fat
    ::: rat. I was hard to study because it had a thick layer of yellow fat
    ::: all over it's internal organs. I always thought that fat was like a
    ::: layer on top of the organs and below the skin but it's not, it's
    ::: all through the body and around the organs. Just because your tummy
    ::: feels pretty firm doesn't mean theres not much fat in there.
    ::: Judy
    ::
    :: If you really want to gross your self out in the name of science, do
    :: a Google image search on the greater omentum. It's basically a lace
    :: tablecloth of fat that surrounds your intestines. Out of all the
    :: things that stayed with me post human anatomy dissection labs, the
    :: greater omentum was it. I still get nauseated when I think about it
    :: too much.
    :: -L.

    Why? Are you grossed out by fat?

  7. The mixture of fat and muscle in the body is a difficult concept for many
    people to grasp. Without even thinking about the marbling in a steak, many
    think that people are somehow divided up into fat and thin sections. Even
    now, I read that some are mystified that recent studies are saying that
    slightly overweight yet athletic may be healthier than thin and sedentary.

    Just don't let that extra 20 kg stick with you - it will only get tougher
    to lose as you age.

  8. Peter wrote:

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    Do other people get much the same result as I do?

    When I was fat, I was fat in my face (I have a neck now), my ass, my
    chest, and my stomach - kind of all over. Maybe at some point I'll post
    some pics. Although I had a gut, I don't think my fat was overly
    concentrated in my abdominal area... I was still fairly active when I
    was obese as well (running, etc). Maybe that had something to do with
    it.

    The part I remember most was the fat that hung off the sides of my
    jeans. I still have some jiggle there, but not much.

    260/204.5/200
    4.27.05

  9. Roger Zoul said:


    Why? Are you grossed out by fat?

    When it is hanging in globules on a greater omentum, yes. Some things
    I would just rather not know exist...
    -L.

  10. Ignoramus16163 said:

    Likely not fluid retention, but "abdominal fat" that is inside
    the abdominal wall. When was the last time you checked your
    blood sugar for diabetes.

    My fasting bllod sugar level is generally alright but I do seem to
    have other symptoms of mild diabetes.

    Is the fasting blood sugar reading definitive or can it sometimes
    be misleading?

    Quoted message said:


    Peter said:

    I am usually 75 to 80 kg (165 to 175 pound) but I have put on
    an extra 20 kg.

    Most of the weight is around my waist.

    Am wondering if some of the weight gain is due to fluid
    retention in the abdomen.

    We are all a bit different but if you are overweight, do you
    get the same result as I do:

    When I tense my tummy muscles and poke and prod my belly I find
    that there's about half an inch (maybe one inch) of fat. Below
    that it is muscle. And I guess the remaining extra fat is
    under or maybe somehow in the layers of muscle.

    At about 20 percent overweight I thought my belly would feel as
    if it were made of floppy fat and the muscle would lie under
    that outer layer of fat. Doesn't seem to be so.

    Do other people get much the same result as I do?

  11. Peter wrote:
    :: On 25 Jan 2006, Ignoramus16163 wrote:
    ::
    ::: Likely not fluid retention, but "abdominal fat" that is inside
    ::: the abdominal wall. When was the last time you checked your
    ::: blood sugar for diabetes.
    ::
    :: My fasting bllod sugar level is generally alright but I do seem to
    :: have other symptoms of mild diabetes.
    ::
    :: Is the fasting blood sugar reading definitive or can it sometimes
    :: be misleading?

    In terms of fast blood sugar, if it's high, it's definite. If it appears
    normal, it could be misleading.

    ::
    ::
    ::
    :::
    ::: On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 04:46:30 GMT, Peter <[email hidden]> wrote:
    :::: I am usually 75 to 80 kg (165 to 175 pound) but I have put on
    :::: an extra 20 kg.
    ::::
    :::: Most of the weight is around my waist.
    ::::
    :::: Am wondering if some of the weight gain is due to fluid
    :::: retention in the abdomen.
    ::::
    :::: We are all a bit different but if you are overweight, do you
    :::: get the same result as I do:
    ::::
    :::: When I tense my tummy muscles and poke and prod my belly I find
    :::: that there's about half an inch (maybe one inch) of fat. Below
    :::: that it is muscle. And I guess the remaining extra fat is
    :::: under or maybe somehow in the layers of muscle.
    ::::
    :::: At about 20 percent overweight I thought my belly would feel as
    :::: if it were made of floppy fat and the muscle would lie under
    :::: that outer layer of fat. Doesn't seem to be so.
    ::::
    :::: Do other people get much the same result as I do?

  12. Peter said:
    Ignoramus16163 said:

    Likely not fluid retention, but "abdominal fat" that is inside
    the abdominal wall. When was the last time you checked your
    blood sugar for diabetes.

    My fasting bllod sugar level is generally alright but I do seem to
    have other symptoms of mild diabetes.

    What would those be? Many symptoms could point to other diseases, the
    only definitive diagnosis tool for diabetes is blood sugar test.

    Quoted message said:

    Is the fasting blood sugar reading definitive or can it sometimes
    be misleading?

    You may not yet be diabetic, but yet be prediabetic. You could test
    your postmeal blood sugar, as blood sugar testing devices are
    cheap. If you find anything out of the ordinary, you could visit a
    doctor, but beware that a diagnosis of diabetes may have an impact on
    your insurability.

    Try googling for "abdominal fat diabetes".

    i

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