Damned food industry

"Now, I have $4 down the toilet along with the almonds (figuratively
not literally). "

Before you toss them, what does the nutritional info on the label say?
Sometimes even though
they have some additives that contain carbs, it still may not amount to
much, as it's just a very
light coating on the nuts. I'd be surprised if you couldn't eat them a
couple ounces at a time in any
phase beyond induction.

"Now, I have $4 down the toilet along with the almonds (figuratively
not literally). "

Before you toss them, what does the nutritional info on the label say?
Sometimes even though
they have some additives that contain carbs, it still may not amount to
much, as it's just a very
light coating on the nuts. I'd be surprised if you couldn't eat them a
couple ounces at a time in any
phase beyond induction.

Your right about it being a light coating and being acceptible a few
ounces at a time. According to the lable it is 7gr total carbs, 3gr
fiber, and 1gr sugar. The lable also seems to indicate that they are a
pretty good source of monounsaturated fat too.

The idea that everything needs to be loaded with all the junk sugars
and starches is really irritating though. I don't wan't it in my food
and I resent that the food industry insists of putting it in just about
everything, with the goal of getting me to buy more of it. I do try to
be diligent about what I buy and accidents do sometimes happen.

My wife drinks almost 2L of soda a day and craves things like pop [censored]
and ice cream sandwiches. Unfortunately she tried LC for over 6 months
and claims that she never lost the cravings for the sugar and finally
abondoned it. I realize that it is her choice and that the stuff can
be very difficult to give up. She says that she needs to, realizing
that it is contributing to her waistline and deteriorating her health,
but it is addictive. I saw a statistic saying that the average
american consumes something like 153lbs of sugar a year. I am willing
to bet that there are a lot of people, like the ones here, who are
consume nowhere near that much which means that people like my wife are
consuming a lot more than that!

Be a raccoon and wash them before eating.

In news:[email hidden],
Noway2 <[email hidden]> stated
| Please forgive my rant but this is really pissing me off!
|
| I stopped at the grocery store tto pick up a couple of snack items for
| the work week as I like to have something other than the vending
| machines in case I do get hungry. I stopped by the nuts isle and
| picked up a can of what I thought were plain roasted almonds. N
|
| Later when I opened the can, poured a few into my hand the first thing
| I noticed is that they felt sticky. I then looked at the ingredients,
| my bad for not having done this in the store but I was in a hurry,
| only to see maltodextrin, potato starch, msg, and sugar all at the
| top of the list, right after almonds. Now, I have $4 down the toilet
| along with the almonds (figuratively not literally).
|
| It seems like the medical community and the media are finally seeing
| the light and admiting that all the refined white [censored] is no good for
| you. Now I just wish the food industry will take the hint.
|
| The problem is that the industry is market driven and until as a whole
| people give the [censored] up, it will continue to worm its way into
| everything!

"Noway2" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Your right about it being a light coating and being acceptible a few
ounces at a time. According to the lable it is 7gr total carbs, 3gr
fiber, and 1gr sugar. The lable also seems to indicate that they are a
pretty good source of monounsaturated fat too.

The idea that everything needs to be loaded with all the junk sugars
and starches is really irritating though. I don't wan't it in my food
and I resent that the food industry insists of putting it in just about
everything, with the goal of getting me to buy more of it. I do try to
be diligent about what I buy and accidents do sometimes happen.

I hear your point and feel your pain; however, don't forget that there are
people out there who don't mind eating nuts prepared like those you got and
who manage to keep their consumption within limits such that they maintain
weight and don't ruin health. Hence, such folks need options too.

Still, I hate having to spend time hunting through the nuts section to find
the ones that don't have carby stuff added. Imagine that, high-fat nuts
combined with sugar....recipe for heart attack down the road for many.

Quoted message said:

My wife drinks almost 2L of soda a day and craves things like pop [censored]
and ice cream sandwiches. Unfortunately she tried LC for over 6 months
and claims that she never lost the cravings for the sugar and finally
abondoned it. I realize that it is her choice and that the stuff can
be very difficult to give up. She says that she needs to, realizing
that it is contributing to her waistline and deteriorating her health,
but it is addictive. I saw a statistic saying that the average
american consumes something like 153lbs of sugar a year. I am willing
to bet that there are a lot of people, like the ones here, who are
consume nowhere near that much which means that people like my wife are
consuming a lot more than that!

Thats a great idea. Now, where did I leave my bandit costume.....

Quoted message said:

don't forget that there are people out there who don't mind eating nuts prepared like those
you got and who manage to keep their consumption within limits such that they maintain
weight and don't ruin health. Hence, such folks need options too.

You are correct. My point (and issue) is with the idea or attitude
that everything MUST be laden with sugar and additives such as MSG in
order for it to sell. While this concept may or may not be true, it
sure does seem like it at times. In this instance, I purchased an
item, that based on the front labeling appeared to be without the added
[censored], and I was wrong.

I believe that ultimately attitudes will change and at least until then
it is up to "us" to be vigilant. As I said in my original post, the
health care industry and media are appear to be at least acknowelding
that there is a problem and that the excess sugar consumption is at
least partially responsible. This is a remarkable change from saying
that it is healthy and recommend to get 10% of you intake from sugar.
I don't believe that the food industry is entirely responsible as there
are other factors such as biology and attitude towards excersize, but I
do believe that at the very least their marketing stategies are an
issue. Just because something sells doesn't make it right (didn't they
use to put narcotics in things like soda and potato chips?) Keep in
mind, the epidemic rates of diabetes and other health issues costs us
all.

Not to sound like an ass or anything, but isn't this really a caveat
emptor kind of deal? The facts of the matter are like this:

1- Controlled Carb living is a very minority way of life
2- Sugar saturation is very much the majority's way of life
3- Capitalist Markets are like representative democracies.

So, knowing these facts, if you are going to live the minority way of
life, YOU have to be the change you want to see. It's like being an
early adapter. If you bought an early HDTV, you had no programming that
looked any better on it, save your DVDs. As time progresses, and more
people jump on board, you get more programming. Same deal with la vida
low carb. We all have to live it, which means looking at labels all the
time on new products. Eventually, perhaps, the minority becomes a
sizeable minority, at which point, real change happens. You could see
something similar with DVDs and VHS tapes at Blockbuster. If you
substitute LC Subscribers for DVD player owners and the grocery store
for Blockbuster, it's maybe the same story that DVD owners were looking
at ten years ago.

Your rant is forgiven, and I feel your pain. I hate it on the occasion
when that happens. I usually bring them to work/school and set em out
for other people if I can't work em in. You get $4 worth of friendship
capital that way.

-Hollywood
http://maxmail.blogspot.com

Noway2 said:

Please forgive my rant but this is really pissing me off!

I stopped at the grocery store tto pick up a couple of snack items for
the work week as I like to have something other than the vending
machines in case I do get hungry. I stopped by the nuts isle and
picked up a can of what I thought were plain roasted almonds. N

Later when I opened the can, poured a few into my hand the first thing
I noticed is that they felt sticky. I then looked at the ingredients,
my bad for not having done this in the store but I was in a hurry, only
to see maltodextrin, potato starch, msg, and sugar all at the top of
the list, right after almonds. Now, I have $4 down the toilet along
with the almonds (figuratively not literally).

It seems like the medical community and the media are finally seeing
the light and admiting that all the refined white [censored] is no good for
you. Now I just wish the food industry will take the hint.

The problem is that the industry is market driven and until as a whole
people give the [censored] up, it will continue to worm its way into
everything!

"Noway2" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

don't forget that there are people out there who don't mind eating nuts
prepared like those
you got and who manage to keep their consumption within limits such that
they maintain
weight and don't ruin health. Hence, such folks need options too.

You are correct. My point (and issue) is with the idea or attitude
that everything MUST be laden with sugar and additives such as MSG in
order for it to sell. While this concept may or may not be true, it
sure does seem like it at times. In this instance, I purchased an
item, that based on the front labeling appeared to be without the added
[censored], and I was wrong.

I'm sensitive to MSG and I have to read labels carefully. If I get sloppy
and start eating lots of foods that have MSG in them under its many hidden
names, I start to have problems. So, you won't get any disagreement from me.
Only thing is, I'm just me. There are a zillion others out there who don't
have my issues.

Quoted message said:

I believe that ultimately attitudes will change and at least until then
it is up to "us" to be vigilant.

I don't think attitudes will ever change. We must always be vigilant, IMO.

As I said in my original post, the

Quoted message said:

health care industry and media are appear to be at least acknowelding
that there is a problem and that the excess sugar consumption is at
least partially responsible. This is a remarkable change from saying
that it is healthy and recommend to get 10% of you intake from sugar.
I don't believe that the food industry is entirely responsible as there
are other factors such as biology and attitude towards excersize, but I
do believe that at the very least their marketing stategies are an
issue. Just because something sells doesn't make it right (didn't they
use to put narcotics in things like soda and potato chips?) Keep in
mind, the epidemic rates of diabetes and other health issues costs us
all.

Well, honestly, this is where we disagree. I don't think it's smart to put
the ills of the world on the backs of marketers and others who seek to sell
products for profit. I think the monkey goes on our backs, as long as
adequate information is available for us to make informed choices. To me
that means that manufactors cannot be desceptive in lableling practices and
such. If enough people start paying attention and refusing to purchase
foods that contribute greatly to an unhealthy lifestyle, then food vendors
will adapt to what people want. We the public cannot continue to remain
uninformed & stupid and survive. Or, said differently, those to remain so
will suffer and eventually die off.

Quoted message said:

I wouldn't necessarilly say that we disagree, but perhaps expressing
the same sentiments differently.

I wasn't sure from your statement wether you believe that the
manufacturers are not presently deceptive or wether you were stating
that they need to be. I believe that the manufacturers are deceptive
because they are allowed to be. Take for example, the concept of
labling products as containing 0 grams, which applied to carbs and now
to trans-fats and how the concept of serving size is being manipulated
to their advantage. Deceptive? Maybe. I guess it depends on your
point of view. I would be willing to bet, though, that somewhere
along the way, some lobbyist paid one or more government officials to
have that stipulation put in. This, however, gets into the realm of
the politics of a representative type government, as someone else
brought up, which we could be here for the next millenia discussing :p

I do, however, completely agree with your statements about how as a
people we can't continue to remain "uninformed & stupid and survive".
I would like to believe that we, as a society, are finally starting to
wake up to this fact, though I fear you may be right about attitudes
not really changing as the path of least resistance appears to be a of
rule nature (at least as long as were not talking about high frequency
stuff, but that belongs in a differnt newgsgroup).

I also agree that the ball is in our court when it comes to the choices
we make, though I am displeased with the attitude that causes products,
including basics such as meat and vegetables to routinely be
contaminated with sugar.

In any case, I will say that I have been enjoying discussing this topic
as it has been enlightening.

Noway2 said:

Later when I opened the can, poured a few into my hand the first thing
I noticed is that they felt sticky. I then looked at the ingredients,
my bad for not having done this in the store but I was in a hurry, only
to see maltodextrin, potato starch, msg, and sugar all at the top of
the list, right after almonds. Now, I have $4 down the toilet along
with the almonds (figuratively not literally).

Rinse them off in a colander, dry with paper towels and spread them out
on a non-stick cookie sheet. Pop into a low oven - just warm, not to
cook them - and dry them. Happy nuts...

Pastorio

"Noway2" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Please forgive my rant but this is really pissing me off!

I stopped at the grocery store tto pick up a couple of snack items for
the work week as I like to have something other than the vending
machines in case I do get hungry. I stopped by the nuts isle and
picked up a can of what I thought were plain roasted almonds. N

Later when I opened the can, poured a few into my hand the first thing
I noticed is that they felt sticky. I then looked at the ingredients,
my bad for not having done this in the store but I was in a hurry, only
to see maltodextrin, potato starch, msg, and sugar all at the top of
the list, right after almonds. Now, I have $4 down the toilet along
with the almonds (figuratively not literally).

Why are you buying canned almonds? Those always have added ingredients.

Most grocery stores (at least, most here on the Left Coast) stock raw
almonds in bulk bins. They're much cheaper than the canned ones, and don't
require all that extra packaging.

GG

Quoted message said:

It seems like the medical community and the media are finally seeing
the light and admiting that all the refined white [censored] is no good for
you. Now I just wish the food industry will take the hint.

The problem is that the industry is market driven and until as a whole
people give the [censored] up, it will continue to worm its way into
everything!

Gotta say, I am quite upset too. We make Low Carb spagetti. We have been
using Ragu, which up until a week or so ago use to have 9 gms carbs/.5
cups of sauce. Suddenly, this jumped to 19 grams. They started ADDING
Lots of SUGAR.... The [censored]!!!!!!!!!!

Thats a very good suggestion. Thank You!

I know what you mean. I used to use this sauce, I forget the brand
name but it was a local one, that used to cost about $5 a can but had 4
grams in a half of a cup with no added sugar or any of that other
stuff. Guess at the price relative to the others ($1.50 a jar) it
didn't sell and got removed. Now I just make my own. This will
probably become a moot point sooner or later as it is hard to even find
LC spaghetti. It went on clearance at Food Lion one day and I bought
it up. I don't have that kind of stuff very often, but it is nice to
have available once and a while. About the only thing that has
remained in the specialty products is the ice cream, which I rarely
buy.

You are right, I should have known better about buying canned nuts to
begin with, but it was quick and easy to pick up on my way into work.
What I will probably do is the next time I go to Costco I will pick up
a bag.

Bulk bins don't seem to be such a big item here (vicinity of
Greensboro, NC) though there is a store called Earth Fare that sells a
lot of items that way. I got some macadamia nuts there once and I
think they were the best I ever had.

Quit you're whining and start reading the food labels BEFORE you buy the
food.

"Noway2" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Please forgive my rant but this is really pissing me off!

I stopped at the grocery store tto pick up a couple of snack items for
the work week as I like to have something other than the vending
machines in case I do get hungry. I stopped by the nuts isle and
picked up a can of what I thought were plain roasted almonds. N

Later when I opened the can, poured a few into my hand the first thing
I noticed is that they felt sticky. I then looked at the ingredients,
my bad for not having done this in the store but I was in a hurry, only
to see maltodextrin, potato starch, msg, and sugar all at the top of
the list, right after almonds. Now, I have $4 down the toilet along
with the almonds (figuratively not literally).

It seems like the medical community and the media are finally seeing
the light and admiting that all the refined white [censored] is no good for
you. Now I just wish the food industry will take the hint.

The problem is that the industry is market driven and until as a whole
people give the [censored] up, it will continue to worm its way into
everything!

Curt wrote:
:: Gotta say, I am quite upset too. We make Low Carb spagetti. We have
:: been using Ragu, which up until a week or so ago use to have 9 gms
:: carbs/.5 cups of sauce. Suddenly, this jumped to 19 grams. They
:: started ADDING Lots of SUGAR.... The [censored]!!!!!!!!!!

Or, the label was wrong the entire time and they just got around to fixing a
mistake.