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  1. It seems that the Back to School runs that add so much congestion on the roads are causing the usual
    madness of people taking risks. This morning, an oncoming van pulled right across me to turn right
    and I went into the side of him at fair old rate of knots.

    Rather than stop, he hesitated then put his foot down and sped away leaving me down in the road.

    I've been to hospital and had my head/neck/grazes checked out and luckily, everything is OK.

    I've also reported it to the police (I have a witness and his registration number). Does anyone know
    what course of action the police will take - as I got the feeling that they are not really that
    bothered. As my wheels are buckled, heart rate monitor and helmet cracked, clothing & bar tape
    ripped etc, I feel that I want to pursue this so I'm not left out of pocket due to no fault of my
    own (ofcouse other than being a cyclist).

    Drinky

  2. In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    It seems that the Back to School runs that add so much congestion on the roads are causing the
    usual madness of people taking risks. This morning, an oncoming van pulled right across me to turn
    right and I went into the side of him at fair old rate of knots.

    Rather than stop, he hesitated then put his foot down and sped away leaving me down in the road.

    I've been to hospital and had my head/neck/grazes checked out and luckily, everything is OK.

    I've also reported it to the police (I have a witness and his registration number). Does anyone
    know what course of action the police will take - as I got the feeling that they are not really
    that bothered. As my wheels are buckled, heart rate monitor and helmet cracked, clothing & bar
    tape ripped etc, I feel that I want to pursue this so I'm not left out of pocket due to no fault
    of my own (ofcouse other than being a cyclist).

    I think that unless the driver volunteers himself to the police within a short space of time he has
    committed an offence by leaving the scene of a collision in which he was involved. The police
    *should* be interested.

    Colin

  3. What about if he argues that he didn't know it had happened?

    "Colin Blackburn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    It seems that the Back to School runs that add so much congestion on the roads are causing the
    usual madness of people taking risks. This


    morning,

    Quoted message said:
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    an oncoming van pulled right across me to turn right and I went into the side of him at fair old
    rate of knots.

    Rather than stop, he hesitated then put his foot down and sped away


    leaving

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    me down in the road.

    I've been to hospital and had my head/neck/grazes checked out and


    luckily,

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    everything is OK.

    I've also reported it to the police (I have a witness and his


    registration

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    number). Does anyone know what course of action the police will take -


    as I

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    got the feeling that they are not really that bothered. As my wheels


    are

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    buckled, heart rate monitor and helmet cracked, clothing & bar tape


    ripped

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    etc, I feel that I want to pursue this so I'm not left out of pocket due


    to

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    no fault of my own (ofcouse other than being a cyclist).

    I think that unless the driver volunteers himself to the police within a short space of time he
    has committed an offence by leaving the scene of a collision in which he was involved. The police
    *should* be interested.

    Colin

  4. Colin Blackburn <[email hidden]>typed

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    I've also reported it to the police (I have a witness and his registration number). Does anyone
    know what course of action the police will take - as I got the feeling that they are not really
    that bothered. As my wheels are buckled, heart rate monitor and helmet cracked, clothing & bar
    tape ripped etc, I feel that I want to pursue this so I'm not left out of pocket due to no fault
    of my own (ofcouse other than being a cyclist).

    Quoted message said:

    I think that unless the driver volunteers himself to the police within a short space of time he
    has committed an offence by leaving the scene of a collision in which he was involved. The police
    *should* be interested.

    Do you belong to a cycling organisation? They are usually very helpful to their members in this sort
    of case (but do not usually act for retrospective members)

    The magazines often have advertisements for cyclist-friendly lawyers who might be helpful.

    Make sure you list *all* your expenses.

    Push, push, push the Plod!

    --
    Helen D. Vecht: [email hidden] Edgware.

  5. "Drinky" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    What about if he argues that he didn't know it had happened?

    Witnesses and an f***ing great dent in his side matching OP's wheel should make short work of
    that defence.

    10 quid fine and 1 point?

    T

  6. In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    What about if he argues that he didn't know it had happened?

    You have a witness that it did. His actions seem to suggest he knew.

    Colin

  7. "Helen Deborah Vecht" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

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    Colin Blackburn <[email hidden]>typed

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    I've also reported it to the police (I have a witness and his


    registration

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    number). Does anyone know what course of action the police will take - as I got the feeling
    that they are not really that bothered. As my wheels


    are

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    Quoted message said:

    buckled, heart rate monitor and helmet cracked, clothing & bar tape


    ripped

    Quoted message said:
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    etc, I feel that I want to pursue this so I'm not left out of pocket due to no fault of my own
    (ofcouse other than being a cyclist).

    Quoted message said:

    I think that unless the driver volunteers himself to the police within a short space of time he
    has committed an offence by leaving the scene of a collision in which he was involved. The
    police *should* be interested.

    Do you belong to a cycling organisation? They are usually very helpful to their members in this
    sort of case (but do not usually act for retrospective members)

    The magazines often have advertisements for cyclist-friendly lawyers who might be helpful.

    Make sure you list *all* your expenses.

    Push, push, push the Plod!

    --
    Helen D. Vecht: [email hidden] Edgware.

    The "Social Workers" er I mean Police, do something ! You must be joking.

    Graham

  8. Drinky said:


    This morning,

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    an oncoming van pulled right across me to turn right and I went into the side of him at fair old
    rate of knots.


    happended to me 8 years ago. Only difference was I went over the bonnet.

    Quoted message said:


    Rather than stop,


    he hesitated then put his foot down and sped away leaving

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    me down in the road.


    I was "lucky" , the driver stopped. I stayed in the gutter searching for the two teeth that had been
    knocked out when my open mouth hit the kerbstone.

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    I've been to hospital and had my head/neck/grazes checked out and luckily, everything is OK.


    Glad to hear it's not too serious.

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    I've also reported it to the police (I have a witness and his registration number).


    Get things moving ASAP. Get quotes for all the damage. Get the details from the witness. Does anyone
    know what course of action the police will take - as I

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    got the feeling that they are not really that bothered.


    You will need his insurance details. Send all the details to them. I remember going to St Thomas'
    by ambulance and picking the bike up later from an office near the scene where the witness had
    left a note.

    I got my unions solicitor involved and ended up with 3400pds

    davep

  9. Tony W said:

    "Drinky" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    What about if he argues that he didn't know it had happened?

    Witnesses and an f***ing great dent in his side matching OP's wheel should make short work of that
    defence.

    10 quid fine and 1 point?

    You must be joking. He didn't kill the cyclist.

    John B

  10. "Drinky" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    It seems that the Back to School runs that add so much congestion on the roads are causing the
    usual madness of people taking risks. This morning, an oncoming van pulled right across me to turn
    right and I went into the side of him at fair old rate of knots.

    Rather than stop, he hesitated then put his foot down and sped away


    leaving

    Quoted message said:

    me down in the road.

    I've been to hospital and had my head/neck/grazes checked out and luckily, everything is OK.

    I've also reported it to the police (I have a witness and his registration number). Does anyone
    know what course of action the police will take - as


    I

    Quoted message said:

    got the feeling that they are not really that bothered. As my wheels are buckled, heart rate
    monitor and helmet cracked, clothing & bar tape ripped etc, I feel that I want to pursue this so
    I'm not left out of pocket due


    to

    Quoted message said:

    no fault of my own (ofcouse other than being a cyclist).

    This happened to me when I was riding a motorbike. The driver stopped and helped me and since I was
    injured he reported it to the police. He was done for due care and fined. Simon

  11. Drinky said:

    It seems that the Back to School runs that add so much congestion on the roads are causing the
    usual madness of people taking risks. This morning, an oncoming van pulled right across me to turn
    right and I went into the side of him at fair old rate of knots.

    eeeek

    Quoted message said:


    Rather than stop, he hesitated then put his foot down and sped away leaving me down in the road.

    BTDTGTTS 🙁

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    I've been to hospital and had my head/neck/grazes checked out and luckily, everything is OK.

    Good, but get photo's of any visible wounds. Now.

    Quoted message said:


    I've also reported it to the police (I have a witness and his registration number). Does anyone
    know what course of action the police will take - as I got the feeling that they are not really
    that bothered. As my wheels are buckled, heart rate monitor and helmet cracked, clothing & bar
    tape ripped etc, I feel that I want to pursue this so I'm not left out of pocket due to no fault
    of my own (ofcouse other than being a cyclist).

    Damn right!

    Assuminmg he doesn't report it himself, he'll be looking at "failure to stop at the scene of an
    accident" and possibly "failing to report an accident where injury has occurred" or similar.

    From that point onwards, he's on a losing slope. Get photo's of the bike damage, and some quotes,
    from the 3 most expensive LBS's in your area.

    List every expense you incurr - tablets, bus fares, taxi's, clothes, taking the bike to the shop for
    quote etc etc etc.

    Oh, and get a bike friendly solicitor 🙂

    Good luck!

    --
    Dnc

  12. " Does anyone know what course of action the police will take - as I

    Quoted message said:

    got the feeling that they are not really that bothered. As my wheels are buckled, heart rate
    monitor and helmet cracked, clothing & bar tape ripped etc, I feel that I want to pursue this so
    I'm not left out of pocket due


    to

    Quoted message said:

    no fault of my own (ofcouse other than being a cyclist).

    Drinky

    If your witnesses corroborate your version then the police will charge him. If he wants to argue
    that he didn't know of the accident (which is a viable defence but usually only in relation to very
    large vehicles like HGVs,) then he'll have to argue that in court. He would still be charged.

    I was hit just a few weeks ago and some helpful poster put me on to www.cycleaid.co.uk who are now
    handling my claim.

    As for injuries/expenses, ditto as others have suggested. Be bloody nitpicking when it comes to all
    that and keep a diary of how your injuries affect you in your normal life each day.

    In boca al lupo, YB

  13. Colin Blackburn said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:


    Rather than stop, he hesitated then put his foot down and sped away leaving me down in the road.

    I think that unless the driver volunteers himself to the police within a short space of time he
    has committed an offence by leaving the scene of a collision in which he was involved. The police
    *should* be interested.

    He's comitted the offence immediately he leaves - there is no 'short space of time'. Unless he
    shows his licence and insurance document at a police station as soon as possible, he's comitted
    another offence.

    There's case law for 'as soon as possible' meaning exactly that - someone was held not to have
    satisfied this when they went home, had a cup of tea and then went to the police station. I don't
    think that was something minor like killing a cyclist though - I think they'd scratched a
    magistrates BMW or something similarly grave.

    regards, Ian SMith
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  14. Coming in late here - you've been given all sorts of useful info by the others. Just wanted to say
    I'm glad you aren't seriously hurt. I hope the person who did it & ran gets hauled over the coals.

    Cheers, helen s

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    h*$el***$$n*$d$ot$**s**i$$m*$m$**on**$s$@*$$a**$*ol*$*.*$$c$om*$ by getting rid of the
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  15. "Helen Deborah Vecht" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    The magazines often have advertisements for cyclist-friendly lawyers who might be helpful.

    But read the small print. In my case I was bombarded with so much info from a "no win, no fee"
    solicitor that I feel it was intended that I get fed up reading it all and would miss the crucial
    part that was in fact "no win might be some fees, win and have loads of fees". No such thing as a
    free lunch.

    Pete

  16. i bet the van was white!

  17. Only where the scratches went though the blue paint!

    "dailuggs" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    i bet the van was white!

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  18. Many thanks for all the advice - it's very much appreciated!

    "Drinky" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    It seems that the Back to School runs that add so much congestion on the roads are causing the
    usual madness of people taking risks. This morning, an oncoming van pulled right across me to turn
    right and I went into the side of him at fair old rate of knots.

    Rather than stop, he hesitated then put his foot down and sped away


    leaving

    Quoted message said:

    me down in the road.

    I've been to hospital and had my head/neck/grazes checked out and luckily, everything is OK.

    I've also reported it to the police (I have a witness and his registration number). Does anyone
    know what course of action the police will take - as


    I

    Quoted message said:

    got the feeling that they are not really that bothered. As my wheels are buckled, heart rate
    monitor and helmet cracked, clothing & bar tape ripped etc, I feel that I want to pursue this so
    I'm not left out of pocket due


    to

    Quoted message said:

    no fault of my own (ofcouse other than being a cyclist).

    Drinky

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