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  1. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_west/4592412.stm
    RIP

  2. "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_west/4592412.stm
    RIP

    I suppose we're now going to be inundated with "car kills bicyclist"
    postings from Laff@me until the Tour of Lankawi where he can start in with
    his "anyone that wins is a doper" postings for the rest of the year. Winter
    is hard on Brian.

  3. Tom Kunich said:

    "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_west/4592412.stm
    RIP

    I suppose we're now going to be inundated with "car kills bicyclist"
    postings from Laff@me until the Tour of Lankawi where he can start in with
    his "anyone that wins is a doper" postings for the rest of the year. Winter
    is hard on Brian.

    There's approximately 3 thousand people killed on the roadways each day,
    approximately 2 per minute, most, no doubt, in motor vehicles.

    That should keep him busy.

  4. B. Lafferty said:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_west/4592412.stm
    RIP

    Sad, but at least this was not a blatant case of driver negligence.

    --
    --
    Lynn Wallace http://www.xmission.com/~lawall

    Conservative dictionary:
    Judicial Activist: n. A judge who tends to rule against your wishes.

  5. "Raptor" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    B. Lafferty said:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_west/4592412.stm
    RIP

    Sad, but at least this was not a blatant case of driver negligence.

    Perhaps...but, the investigation may prove otherwise.

    The driver apparently claimed to have spun out on ice...and, yet the
    cyclists were out on the same road for a 50-miler on standard road bikes. I
    find it somewhat hard to believe that cyclists would be able to negotiate
    roads that were icy enough to spin out a car that was "just driving along".

    GG

    Quoted message said:


    --
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    Lynn Wallace http://www.xmission.com/~lawall

    Conservative dictionary:
    Judicial Activist: n. A judge who tends to rule against your wishes.

  6. "GaryG" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Raptor" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    B. Lafferty said:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_west/4592412.stm
    RIP

    Sad, but at least this was not a blatant case of driver negligence.

    Perhaps...but, the investigation may prove otherwise.

    The driver apparently claimed to have spun out on ice...and, yet the
    cyclists were out on the same road for a 50-miler on standard road bikes.
    I
    find it somewhat hard to believe that cyclists would be able to negotiate
    roads that were icy enough to spin out a car that was "just driving
    along".

    GG

    Quoted message said:


    --
    --
    Lynn Wallace http://www.xmission.com/~lawall

    Conservative dictionary:
    Judicial Activist: n. A judge who tends to rule against your wishes.

    The accident will, hopefully be thoroughly investigated. That the cyclists
    were riding on roads with ice doesn't really address what happened with the
    car traveling at speed on a curve with more mass (apologies to the
    engineers/physicists if that's not the correct term). Apparently there was
    an earlier accident in the same spot due to the ice. When it's you're time
    it doesn't matter where you are or what you're doing. RIP.

  7. "Tom Kunich" <[email hidden]> wrote in > I suppose we're now going to
    be inundated with "car kills bicyclist"

    Quoted message said:

    postings from Laff@me until the Tour of Lankawi where he can start in with
    his "anyone that wins is a doper" postings for the rest of the year.


    Winter

    Quoted message said:

    is hard on Brian.

    Tom,

    Brian gets a free pass on this one. It's a sad story.

    -Philip

  8. GaryG said:

    "Raptor" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    B. Lafferty said:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_west/4592412.stm
    RIP

    Sad, but at least this was not a blatant case of driver negligence.


    Killing of two cyclist by a hit an run drunk while they

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    were on a ride in two spearate incidents miles apart
    and to find out it was on of the cyclist wife's.

    Quoted message said:

    Seat belts help everyone, a breatalizer would only
    be help for the small portion of the population that
    have a drinking problem. Why make cars expensive?
    Public transportation is bad or non-existant in many
    parts of the US. Why should we enact laws that
    make private companies rich?

  9. GaryG said:

    "Raptor" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    B. Lafferty said:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_west/4592412.stm
    RIP

    Sad, but at least this was not a blatant case of driver negligence.

    Killing of two cyclist by a hit and run drunk while they
    were on a ride in two spearate incidents miles apart
    and to find out it was on of the cyclist wife's.
    Seat belts help everyone, a breatalizer would only
    be help for the small portion of the population that
    have a drinking problem. Why make cars expensive?
    Public transportation is bad or non-existant in many
    parts of the US. Why should we enact laws that
    make private companies rich?

  10. "Raptor" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    B. Lafferty said:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_west/4592412.stm
    RIP

    Sad, but at least this was not a blatant case of driver negligence.

    But it is a clear case of reckless driving which is supported by the system.
    What do you want to bet that everyone who knew the kid knew that he was a
    speeder?

  11. On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 17:24:57 -0800, "GaryG" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    The driver apparently claimed to have spun out on ice...and, yet the
    cyclists were out on the same road for a 50-miler on standard road bikes. I
    find it somewhat hard to believe that cyclists would be able to negotiate
    roads that were icy enough to spin out a car that was "just driving along".

    Perhaps. I've seen a fair number of occurences, though, where a
    stretch in the shade can still be ice well after the rest of the road
    is dry, and I'm guessing that most people that have ridden and driven
    in places like Michigan on a sunny early Spring day have as well.
    Fortunately for me, the worst I've had was hitting a patch on the bike
    on a early spring ride in East Lansing and it was no more than a
    bruise. And yes, after riding in the sun and on dry roads, hitting a
    patch in the shade in a curve was a complete surprise, at least until
    it was too late.

    Curtis L. Russell
    Odenton, MD (USA)
    Just someone on two wheels...

  12. Curtis L. Russell said:

    On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 17:24:57 -0800, "GaryG" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    The driver apparently claimed to have spun out on ice...and, yet the
    cyclists were out on the same road for a 50-miler on standard road bikes. I
    find it somewhat hard to believe that cyclists would be able to negotiate
    roads that were icy enough to spin out a car that was "just driving along".

    Perhaps. I've seen a fair number of occurences, though, where a
    stretch in the shade can still be ice well after the rest of the road
    is dry, and I'm guessing that most people that have ridden and driven
    in places like Michigan on a sunny early Spring day have as well.
    Fortunately for me, the worst I've had was hitting a patch on the bike
    on a early spring ride in East Lansing and it was no more than a
    bruise. And yes, after riding in the sun and on dry roads, hitting a
    patch in the shade in a curve was a complete surprise,

    key word here is sun glasess u DODO BIRD

  13. On 9 Jan 2006 08:15:32 -0800, "studleymoo" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    key word here is sun glasess u DODO BIRD

    Yo, dumbass - sunglasses help you see in the sun, not in dark shade.
    Try again when you have something at least marginally intelligent to
    say. I'm guessing you must have hit your head on something today when
    you walked into a building from sunlight and forgot to take your
    sunglasses off.

    Curtis L. Russell
    Odenton, MD (USA)
    Just someone on two wheels...

  14. GaryG said:

    "Raptor" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    B. Lafferty said:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/north_west/4592412.stm
    RIP

    Sad, but at least this was not a blatant case of driver negligence.

    Perhaps...but, the investigation may prove otherwise.

    The driver apparently claimed to have spun out on ice...and, yet the
    cyclists were out on the same road for a 50-miler on standard road bikes. I
    find it somewhat hard to believe that cyclists would be able to negotiate
    roads that were icy enough to spin out a car that was "just driving along".

    GG

    Shadows will do that. In hilly areas, there are always well-shaded icy
    turns in Winter.

    I'm just commenting on the known info.

    --
    --
    Lynn Wallace http://www.xmission.com/~lawall

    Conservative dictionary:
    Judicial Activist: n. A judge who tends to rule against your wishes.

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