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  1. http://www.bcf.uk.com/news/2005/01_January06/01_James.shtml

    How awful.
    This news is shattering. Sincere condolences to family and friends.

    John B

  2. John B came up with the following;:

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.bcf.uk.com/news/2005/01_January06/01_James.shtml

    How awful.
    This news is shattering. Sincere condolences to family and friends.

    Nothing to add to that.

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    Paul ...
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  3. "John B" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    http://www.bcf.uk.com/news/2005/01_January06/01_James.shtml

    How awful.
    This news is shattering. Sincere condolences to family and friends.

    John B

    Oh no. Every parents' nightmare. Words are not enough

    helen s 🙁

  4. John B said:

    http://www.bcf.uk.com/news/2005/01_January06/01_James.shtml

    How awful.
    This news is shattering. Sincere condolences to family and friends.

    John B


    Dear God thats horrible.

    Stan Cox

  5. On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 11:31:10 GMT, John B <[email hidden]> said in
    <[email hidden]>:

    Quoted message said:

    This news is shattering.

    Too true. Shocking, really shocking.

    Guy
    --
    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

    "To every complex problem there is a solution which is
    simple, neat and wrong" - HL Mencken

  6. Dying is hard for everyone, especially in the sorrow of families afterwards.
    As I grow older the prospect of death shadows me constantly.

    Death from the unexpected in circumstances like these is always sad for
    those remaining behind and people struggle to express their feelings

    So here am I doing just that.

    James Berry was out on his bike doing his thing and very likely enjoying
    himself with friends when he was injured and killed -- out of the blue!

    Whilst the sorrow felt by his family will be overbearing at this time, and I
    mean this most sincerely, it is a good way to leave this life -- in full
    flow and without months/years of pain.

    Since I do not believe in God, I cannot offer a prayer for him

    But here on this NG I add his name. not a nameless news cutting.

    JAMES BERRY,
    who will be remembered by his friends

    --
    Trevor A Panther
    In South Yorkshire,
    England, United Kingdom.
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    Quoted message said:
    John B said:

    http://www.bcf.uk.com/news/2005/01_January06/01_James.shtml

    How awful.
    This news is shattering. Sincere condolences to family and friends.

    John B


    Dear God thats horrible.

    Stan Cox

  7. "Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email hidden]> whizzed past me shouting

    Quoted message said:

    On Tue, 03 Jan 2006 11:31:10 GMT, John B <[email hidden]> said in
    <[email hidden]>:

    Quoted message said:

    This news is shattering.

    Too true. Shocking, really shocking.

    Yes.

    So shocking that nobody's questioned the description "freak accident"
    for a wheel falling off an HGV - that's not a freak accident, it's an
    all-too-common result of not checking the wheel nuts.

    --
    Sue ]🙁🙂

  8. Sue White said:


    So shocking that nobody's questioned the description "freak accident"
    for a wheel falling off an HGV - that's not a freak accident, it's an
    all-too-common result of not checking the wheel nuts.

    Or nuts not checking the wheel ;-)
    --
    Tony

    "The best way I know of to win an argument is to start by being in the
    right."
    - Lord Hailsham

  9. On Sat, 7 Jan 2006 17:35:30 +0000, Sue White <[email hidden]>
    said in <[email hidden]>:

    Quoted message said:

    So shocking that nobody's questioned the description "freak accident"
    for a wheel falling off an HGV - that's not a freak accident, it's an
    all-too-common result of not checking the wheel nuts.

    I can't say I've seen that happen, though I understand it does from
    time to time (hence the little tabs that HGVs now commonly have).
    Having one come off and hit a road user not in a cage? That arguably
    is a freak accident.

    Guy
    --
    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

    "To every complex problem there is a solution which is
    simple, neat and wrong" - HL Mencken

  10. Just zis Guy said:

    On Sat, 7 Jan 2006 17:35:30 +0000, Sue White <[email hidden]>
    said in <[email hidden]>:

    Quoted message said:

    So shocking that nobody's questioned the description "freak accident"
    for a wheel falling off an HGV - that's not a freak accident, it's an
    all-too-common result of not checking the wheel nuts.

    I can't say I've seen that happen, though I understand it does from
    time to time (hence the little tabs that HGVs now commonly have).
    Having one come off and hit a road user not in a cage? That arguably
    is a freak accident.

    ISTR that there are no MOTs on the IOM.

    John B

  11. On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 22:39:08 GMT, John B <[email hidden]> said in
    <[email hidden]>:

    Quoted message said:

    ISTR that there are no MOTs on the IOM.

    Tha may be reet.

    Guy
    --
    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

    "To every complex problem there is a solution which is
    simple, neat and wrong" - HL Mencken

  12. Tony Raven said:
    Sue White said:


    So shocking that nobody's questioned the description "freak accident"
    for a wheel falling off an HGV - that's not a freak accident, it's an
    all-too-common result of not checking the wheel nuts.

    Or nuts not checking the wheel ;-)
    --
    Tony

    "The best way I know of to win an argument is to start by being in the
    right."
    - Lord Hailsham

    I don't remember the exact figures but every time the provincial police
    here do a large truck safety check (HGV?) we have about 20-25% fail
    with many being immediately towed, not driven, away. I hope inspections
    are better in the UK 🙁
    John Kane, Kingston ON Canada

  13. Sue White said:


    So shocking that nobody's questioned the description "freak accident"
    for a wheel falling off an HGV - that's not a freak accident, it's an
    all-too-common result of not checking the wheel nuts.

    Is this a confession?

    There are many scenarios in which a wheel can come off an HGV, loose
    wheelnuts is only one.
    --
    ---
    Marten Gerritsen

    INFOapestaartjeM-GINEERINGpuntNL
    www.m-gineering.nl

  14. Just zis Guy said:


    Quoted message said:

    So shocking that nobody's questioned the description "freak accident"
    for a wheel falling off an HGV - that's not a freak accident, it's an
    all-too-common result of not checking the wheel nuts.

    I can't say I've seen that happen, though I understand it does from
    time to time (hence the little tabs that HGVs now commonly have).
    Having one come off and hit a road user not in a cage? That arguably
    is a freak accident.

    Guy

    Was it even in use? I've seen truck wheels lying in the road (late night
    motorway run with main beams on otherwise I'd have hit it, which begs
    the question why do so many drivers only use dipped?) and dad had one
    fall off the top of a passing truck bounce over him!
    Not all truck drivers carry properly secured spares...

  15. badger said:


    Not all truck drivers carry properly secured spares...

    ....or loads

    --
    Tony

    "The best way I know of to win an argument is to start by being in the
    right."
    - Lord Hailsham

  16. M-gineering said:
    Sue White said:


    So shocking that nobody's questioned the description "freak accident"
    for a wheel falling off an HGV - that's not a freak accident, it's an
    all-too-common result of not checking the wheel nuts.

    Is this a confession?

    There are many scenarios in which a wheel can come off an HGV, loose
    wheelnuts is only one.
    --
    ---
    Marten Gerritsen


    Loose wheel nuts is most likely - HGV near side nuts would tend to
    loosen so are usually left hand threaded. Occasionally a right hand hub
    is fitted by mistake such as after brake maintenance. If this isn't
    rectified then wheels get lost - sometimes without the driver being
    aware of anything if there are two wheels on the hub. So it's
    negligence.

    Jacob

  17. badger wondered:

    Quoted message said:

    (late night
    motorway run with main beams on otherwise I'd have hit it, which begs
    the question why do so many drivers only use dipped?)

    Erm, perhaps to avoid dazzling other drivers, as required by common
    courtesy and by HC rule 94?

    I hate those idiots who use full beam on the motorway when I happen to
    be either ahead of them, or travelling in the opposite direction on the
    other side of the motorway.

    --
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  18. "Danny Colyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    badger wondered:

    Quoted message said:

    (late night motorway run with main beams on otherwise I'd have hit it,
    which begs the question why do so many drivers only use dipped?)

    Erm, perhaps to avoid dazzling other drivers, as required by common
    courtesy and by HC rule 94?

    I hate those idiots who use full beam on the motorway when I happen to be
    either ahead of them, or travelling in the opposite direction on the other
    side of the motorway.

    Very occasionally it's possible and necessary to. Normally there are indeed
    other cars to light things up.

    --
    Ambrose

  19. Ambrose Nankivell said:

    "Danny Colyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    badger wondered:

    Quoted message said:

    (late night motorway run with main beams on otherwise I'd have hit
    it, which begs the question why do so many drivers only use dipped?)

    Erm, perhaps to avoid dazzling other drivers, as required by common
    courtesy and by HC rule 94?

    I hate those idiots who use full beam on the motorway when I happen to
    be either ahead of them, or travelling in the opposite direction on
    the other side of the motorway.

    Very occasionally it's possible and necessary to. Normally there are
    indeed other cars to light things up.


    Here we have ambulances which have, besides enough flashing lights to
    kitt out a disco, a relay alternating dipped and main beams. I think
    it's 'the looking for business mode'

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    Marten Gerritsen

    INFOapestaartjeM-GINEERINGpuntNL
    www.m-gineering.nl

  20. Danny Colyer said:


    I hate those idiots who use full beam on the motorway when I happen to
    be either ahead of them, or travelling in the opposite direction on the
    other side of the motorway.

    <aol> Me too! </aol>

    --
    Tony

    "Man is a credulous animal, and must believe something; in the absence
    of good grounds for belief, he will be satisfied with bad ones."
    - Bertrand Russell

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