Fun Time - NOT!

In article <[email hidden]>,

~patches~ said:

DH is hooking up the downdraft system for our range. We just discovered
that wall has *no* insulation. Not a really good thing to discover in
the middle of winter in Canada! Damn I hate that and old houses to boot
- sometimes! The only good thing is if everything goes well we should
be able to cook steak on the indoor grill tonight.

Scary...

so, are you going to insualte and fire proof it?
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

~patches~ said:

DH is hooking up the downdraft system for our range. We just discovered
that wall has *no* insulation. Not a really good thing to discover in
the middle of winter in Canada! Damn I hate that and old houses to boot
- sometimes! The only good thing is if everything goes well we should
be able to cook steak on the indoor grill tonight.

Scary...

so, are you going to insualte and fire proof it?

Well let's see now. DH & I don't work well together for DIY projects so
despite my suggestions DH is doing it his way. He's currently talking to
himself while sipping bailey's & coffee while looking at a hole in the
outside wall. Seriously though, he does know what he's doing. What
he's installing today will get the downdraft going nicely until spring
then we are going to have to tear that wall apart and put insulation in
🙁 Actually, we'll end up removing all the cabinets and re-doing two
outside uninsulated walls. We get really strong winds during the winter
and had suspected the original main house walls were not insulated so
this just confirms it. We are planning on bricking this year the
outside so will do the necessary sealing and insulation then. Fire
proofing isn't a real issue as our voluntary fire dept has never lost a
foundation yet 😉

In article <[email hidden]>,

~patches~ said:

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

~patches~ said:

DH is hooking up the downdraft system for our range. We just discovered
that wall has *no* insulation. Not a really good thing to discover in
the middle of winter in Canada! Damn I hate that and old houses to boot
- sometimes! The only good thing is if everything goes well we should
be able to cook steak on the indoor grill tonight.

Scary...

so, are you going to insualte and fire proof it?

Well let's see now. DH & I don't work well together for DIY projects so
despite my suggestions DH is doing it his way. He's currently talking to
himself while sipping bailey's & coffee while looking at a hole in the
outside wall.

Oh Shi***. ;-)
Not sure that fireproofing and booze mix. <G>

Quoted message said:

Seriously though, he does know what he's doing.

Ok.

Quoted message said:

What
he's installing today will get the downdraft going nicely until spring
then we are going to have to tear that wall apart and put insulation in
🙁

Bummer. BTDT. Owning a house can get expensive sometimes!

Quoted message said:

Actually, we'll end up removing all the cabinets and re-doing two
outside uninsulated walls.

You will make it up in power bills over time.

Quoted message said:

We get really strong winds during the winter
and had suspected the original main house walls were not insulated so
this just confirms it. We are planning on bricking this year the
outside so will do the necessary sealing and insulation then.

Rocking is cheaper, and prettier IMHO. ;-)
We are planning on doing some stone wainscotting outside the siding. If
I feel I can afford it, I'll rock the entire house in over time.

Limestone.

Quoted message said:

Fire
proofing isn't a real issue as our voluntary fire dept has never lost a
foundation yet 😉

<lol> That's not really funny ya know dear!!!!!!

Cheers!
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

I know that, if I ever sell, I'd never EVER get out of it what I put
into it.

Sure you will. If you did not do those repairs and upgrades, it may take a
long time to sell at a very low price. Houses need to be upgraded every so
often or they can decline in value.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Edwin Pawlowski said:

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

I know that, if I ever sell, I'd never EVER get out of it what I put
into it.

Sure you will. If you did not do those repairs and upgrades, it may take a
long time to sell at a very low price. Houses need to be upgraded every so
often or they can decline in value.

Grant you that, but I refinanced for $50,000 for repairs and debt
consolidation. The original loan was only for $35.000 but with compound
interest, I'd already paid $75.000 by the time I paid it off.

With a 10 year loan and compound interest at my current interest rate,
I'll pay an additional $75.000 plus the $5,000 I'm fixin' to put into
the property for the retaining wall, privacy fence and wainscotting.
Not to mention piddly stuff like paint, ongoing landscaping, plumbing
and electrical repairs.......

And the interior still needs to be refinished again.

The value of the house and property in this area is only $80,000.

No way in hell can I get out of it what I've spent and will spend. ;-)
The refinance morgage has 6 years left.

But, I can subtract a hypothetical rental value of the 18 years I've
lived here.

It's ok............
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

~patches~ said:

DH is hooking up the downdraft system for our range. We just discovered
that wall has *no* insulation. Not a really good thing to discover in
the middle of winter in Canada! Damn I hate that and old houses to boot
- sometimes! The only good thing is if everything goes well we should
be able to cook steak on the indoor grill tonight.

Downdraft... how does the venting go? Does a duct run from the bottom
of the stove up through the wall and out?

Sue(tm)
Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 22:16:46 GMT, [email hidden] (Curly

Sue) said:

~patches~ said:

DH is hooking up the downdraft system for our range. We just discovered

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Quoted message said:

Downdraft... how does the venting go? Does a duct run from the bottom
of the stove up through the wall and out?

Nevermind- I saw your description in another subject.

Sue(tm)
Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

Curly Sue said:

~patches~ said:

DH is hooking up the downdraft system for our range. We just discovered
that wall has *no* insulation. Not a really good thing to discover in
the middle of winter in Canada! Damn I hate that and old houses to boot
- sometimes! The only good thing is if everything goes well we should
be able to cook steak on the indoor grill tonight.

Downdraft... how does the venting go? Does a duct run from the bottom
of the stove up through the wall and out?

Sue(tm)
Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

I'm tempted to post a pic of DH installing this thing. You know where
the storage drawer is under a normal range? Under there there is this
huge blower system. That hooks to the range on one side then vents
outside. So the air comes from the top of the range in the middle, down
though a vent, into the blower, then outside.

"~patches~" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

DH is hooking up the downdraft system for our range. We
just discovered that wall has *no* insulation. Not a
really good thing to discover in the middle of winter in
Canada! Damn I hate that and old houses to boot -
sometimes! The only good thing is if everything goes well
we should be able to cook steak on the indoor grill
tonight.

I hope your's works better than mine did. I decided that
downdraft was not for me after our last place.

Insulation..... Oh, yeah, winter, cold, brrrrrr!

MoM