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Experience with internal hubs?

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  1. "Beverly" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    I'm currently looking at a new bike for a handicapped adult who has slight
    balance problems. She currently rides a Giant hybrid with the seat low
    enough for her to touch the ground with the balls of her feet when she
    stops. This has worked for a few years but I think she would enjoy biking
    more with the flat foot technology offered. She never stands to pedal and
    all riding is done on rail-to-trails so climbing is limited to long
    gradual
    grades. This won't be a high mileage bike - around 80 miles per month in
    warm weather. Of course, I might take is for a spin occasionally for a
    change from the road bike<g>

    I've never owned a bike with an internal hub so I don't know the pros and
    cons of them other than the advantages listed on the website. Are there
    any
    problems I should be aware of before purchasing the bike? I'm looking at
    the two models in the links. I'm also debating on getting one with the
    coaster brakes. She's never rode a bike with coaster brakes and I don't
    think adding them would be the best idea - but it might help save the toes
    of her shoes as I sometimes have to remind her to use the brakes instead
    of
    dragging her feet.

    Internal hub/coaster brakes:
    http://www.electrabike.com/04/bikes/06bikes/townie/06_twn_23.html

    Internal hub/V type brakes:
    http://www.electrabike.com/04/bikes/06bikes/townie/06_twn_25.html

    TIA
    Beverly


    Although I have no objections to coaster brake equipped bikes, I have a
    couple bikes with coaster brakes on them myself too.
    Coaster brakes do work when it is cold wet muddy unlike most V-Brakes.
    But coaster brakes usually have more drag to them than the other hubs do,
    you may or may not notice this drag when riding around.
    Plus you can't just backpedal ot move the pedals easily to make for a good
    start after a stop like you can with regular freewheeling hubs.
    Then coaster brakes tend to heat up and fade out quickly on long steep
    downhill runs.
    I would suggest sticking to V-brakes like you already have her using, no
    sense making it more confusing or difficult.
    If you expect her to be riding in foul wet weather, then maybe the roller
    brake option might be worth it. But it is heavier than v-brakes though.

  2. I'm currently looking at a new bike for a handicapped adult who has slight
    balance problems. She currently rides a Giant hybrid with the seat low
    enough for her to touch the ground with the balls of her feet when she
    stops. This has worked for a few years but I think she would enjoy biking
    more with the flat foot technology offered. She never stands to pedal and
    all riding is done on rail-to-trails so climbing is limited to long gradual
    grades. This won't be a high mileage bike - around 80 miles per month in
    warm weather. Of course, I might take is for a spin occasionally for a
    change from the road bike<g>

    I've never owned a bike with an internal hub so I don't know the pros and
    cons of them other than the advantages listed on the website. Are there any
    problems I should be aware of before purchasing the bike? I'm looking at
    the two models in the links. I'm also debating on getting one with the
    coaster brakes. She's never rode a bike with coaster brakes and I don't
    think adding them would be the best idea - but it might help save the toes
    of her shoes as I sometimes have to remind her to use the brakes instead of
    dragging her feet.

    Internal hub/coaster brakes:
    http://www.electrabike.com/04/bikes/06bikes/townie/06_twn_23.html

    Internal hub/V type brakes:
    http://www.electrabike.com/04/bikes/06bikes/townie/06_twn_25.html

    TIA
    Beverly

  3. That's a really great bike for your needs.

    As far as the coaster brake: It depends on what you're used to. Anbody
    that's a fairly spirited rider should rightfully sneer at such a brake,
    but for other folks it's perfect. My mom grew up riding bikes in Europe
    in the 50-60s and refused to ride the restored hand braked bike I gave
    her. I finally fixed up an early 60s German woman's bike with a Sachs
    coaster brake and she's happy as can be. I doubt it will need lubing
    again in her lifetime.

    I'd go for the coaster, as it's also got a front hand brake--that way
    your friend can have two very different alternatives for stopping.

    If you're borrowing the bike a lot, go for the twin vee brakes. :P

  4. Beverly wrote in part:

    Quoted message said:

    I'm currently looking at a new bike for a handicapped adult who has slight
    balance problems. She currently rides a Giant hybrid with the seat low
    enough for her to touch the ground with the balls of her feet when she
    stops. This has worked for a few years but I think she would enjoy biking
    more with the flat foot technology offered.

    What exactly is "flat foot technology"? (No cop jokes, please. I'm sure
    I've heard them all.)

    Regards,
    Bob Hunt

  5. My uncle has a balance problem eventually made bicycling hazardous. He
    switched from a bicycle to a recumbent tricycle made by Catrike
    (http://www.catrike.com/) and has been very happy.

  6. Bob said:

    What exactly is "flat foot technology"? (No cop jokes, please. I'm sure
    I've heard them all.)

    Check out the geometry of the OP's linked bike. Then have a google and
    look at the Electra Townie--same concept.

    By placing the saddle further back to get leg extension, you can lower
    it and get the feet closer to the ground.

    A guy I see on the paths around here swears by his Townie, so for some
    folks they're a great fit. Personally I like to rock my hips forward a
    couple degrees and ride in the hoods--but I've got scoliosis and the
    old back likes being stretched out.

    In addition to giving new or special needs riders a lower saddle, it
    looks kinda "cruisery" and for a tootlin' around bike--who cares about
    perfect ergonomics--style is everything. :P

  7. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    My uncle has a balance problem eventually made bicycling hazardous. He
    switched from a bicycle to a recumbent tricycle made by Catrike
    (http://www.catrike.com/) and has been very happy.


    I wasn't real clear in my original post about my daughter's handicap. She
    has slight motor coordination problems and the starting and stopping while
    having to come down off the seat sometimes cause a problem for her. If her
    feet could touch the ground while she's seated it would solve the problem.

    I've taken a look at a few tricycles. I figure I won't always be able to
    ride the road bike and something like them would still allow me to get out
    and ride.

  8. Thanks for all the info. I think I'll let my daughter decide if she wants
    the coaster brakes after we take the bike out for a spin. She's only set on
    it at the bike shop and loved the fact her feet touched the ground while she
    was seated. She has slight motor coordination problems and the
    starting/stopping while having to deal with getting up or down on the seat
    often results in some wobbly moments.

    "Beverly" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I'm currently looking at a new bike for a handicapped adult who has slight
    balance problems. She currently rides a Giant hybrid with the seat low
    enough for her to touch the ground with the balls of her feet when she
    stops. This has worked for a few years but I think she would enjoy biking
    more with the flat foot technology offered. She never stands to pedal and
    all riding is done on rail-to-trails so climbing is limited to long


    gradual

    Quoted message said:

    grades. This won't be a high mileage bike - around 80 miles per month in
    warm weather. Of course, I might take is for a spin occasionally for a
    change from the road bike<g>

    I've never owned a bike with an internal hub so I don't know the pros and
    cons of them other than the advantages listed on the website. Are there


    any

    Quoted message said:

    problems I should be aware of before purchasing the bike? I'm looking at
    the two models in the links. I'm also debating on getting one with the
    coaster brakes. She's never rode a bike with coaster brakes and I don't
    think adding them would be the best idea - but it might help save the toes
    of her shoes as I sometimes have to remind her to use the brakes instead


    of

    Quoted message said:

    dragging her feet.

    Internal hub/coaster brakes:
    http://www.electrabike.com/04/bikes/06bikes/townie/06_twn_23.html

    Internal hub/V type brakes:
    http://www.electrabike.com/04/bikes/06bikes/townie/06_twn_25.html

    TIA
    Beverly

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