I just turned on the local news, and learned that the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department is searching for Craig Titus, and his wife, as the prime suspects in the murder of a woman a few days ago!
I just turned on the local news, and learned that the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department is searching for Craig Titus, and his wife, as the prime suspects in the murder of a woman a few days ago!
For real?
Hold onto the term "suspect". Turn it around in your heads a few times. It's not quite time to execute him. He still gets a trial.
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WillBrink said:
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David Cohen said:
I just turned on the local news, and learned that the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department is searching for Craig Titus, and his wife, as the prime suspects in the murder of a woman a few days ago!
For real?
Hold onto the term "suspect". Turn it around in your heads a few times. It's not quite time to execute him. He still gets a trial.
Dally
Then he and OJ get to start a Crime Fighting Team!
I just turned on the local news, and learned that the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department is searching for Craig Titus, and his wife, as the prime suspects in the murder of a woman a few days ago!
For real?
Hold onto the term "suspect". Turn it around in your heads a few times. It's not quite time to execute him. He still gets a trial.
Yup. I can't wait to hear the explanation for driving the body out into the desert and setting her, and the car, on fire.
This is Nevada, not California or Massechusetts. We tend to convict those charged with murder, and tend to execute them.
>I just turned on the local news, and learned that the Las Vegas >Metropolitan Police Department is searching for Craig Titus, and his >wife, as the prime suspects in the murder of a woman a few days ago!
For real?
Hold onto the term "suspect". Turn it around in your heads a few times. It's not quite time to execute him. He still gets a trial.
Yup. I can't wait to hear the explanation for driving the body out into the desert and setting her, and the car, on fire.
This is Nevada, not California or Massechusetts. We tend to convict those charged with murder, and tend to execute them.
Just because you can't imagine the scenario in which he isn't guilty, doesn't mean he IS guilty. And therein lies the crux of my problem with capital punishment. Our ability to punish outstrips our ability to discern judgment.
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I just turned on the local news, and learned that the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department is searching for Craig Titus, and his wife, as the prime suspects in the murder of a woman a few days ago!
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"Dally" <[email hidden]> wrote
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WillBrink said:
"David Cohen" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>I just turned on the local news, and learned that the Las Vegas >Metropolitan Police Department is searching for Craig Titus, and his >wife, as the prime suspects in the murder of a woman a few days ago!
For real?
Hold onto the term "suspect". Turn it around in your heads a few times. It's not quite time to execute him. He still gets a trial.
Yup. I can't wait to hear the explanation for driving the body out into the desert and setting her, and the car, on fire.
This is Nevada, not California or Massechusetts. We tend to convict those charged with murder, and tend to execute them.
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David Cohen said:
"Dally" <[email hidden]> wrote
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WillBrink wrote:
> "David Cohen" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >>I just turned on the local news, and learned that the Las Vegas >>Metropolitan Police Department is searching for Craig Titus, and his >>wife, as the prime suspects in the murder of a woman a few days ago! > >For real?
Hold onto the term "suspect". Turn it around in your heads a few times. It's not quite time to execute him. He still gets a trial.
Yup. I can't wait to hear the explanation for driving the body out into the desert and setting her, and the car, on fire.
This is Nevada, not California or Massechusetts. We tend to convict those charged with murder, and tend to execute them.
Just because you can't imagine the scenario in which he isn't guilty, doesn't mean he IS guilty. And therein lies the crux of my problem with capital punishment. Our ability to punish outstrips our ability to discern judgment.
Dally
LOL! Stop talking sense!
Have you noticed that the talk is not as to his guilt or innocence?
They're in Nevada! What is Gil Grisham going to say when he gets this to the crime lab????
> "David Cohen" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >>I just turned on the local news, and learned that the Las Vegas >>Metropolitan Police Department is searching for Craig Titus, and his >>wife, as the prime suspects in the murder of a woman a few days ago! > >For real?
Hold onto the term "suspect". Turn it around in your heads a few times. It's not quite time to execute him. He still gets a trial.
Yup. I can't wait to hear the explanation for driving the body out into the desert and setting her, and the car, on fire.
This is Nevada, not California or Massechusetts. We tend to convict those charged with murder, and tend to execute them.
Just because you can't imagine the scenario in which he isn't guilty, doesn't mean he IS guilty. And therein lies the crux of my problem with capital punishment. Our ability to punish outstrips our ability to discern judgment.
And therein lies the crux of my problem with some people who would want to be jurors in such a case. Their ability to discern judgment is outstripped by their desire to come up with bizarre scenarios consistent with innocence because that's what they see in the contrived plots of TV crime shows.
>WillBrink wrote: > >> "David Cohen" <[email hidden]> wrote: >> >> >>>I just turned on the local news, and learned that the Las Vegas >>>Metropolitan Police Department is searching for Craig Titus, and his >>>wife, as the prime suspects in the murder of a woman a few days ago! >> >>For real? > >Hold onto the term "suspect". Turn it around in your heads a few times. >It's not quite time to execute him. He still gets a trial.
Yup. I can't wait to hear the explanation for driving the body out into the desert and setting her, and the car, on fire.
This is Nevada, not California or Massechusetts. We tend to convict those charged with murder, and tend to execute them.
Just because you can't imagine the scenario in which he isn't guilty, doesn't mean he IS guilty. And therein lies the crux of my problem with capital punishment. Our ability to punish outstrips our ability to discern judgment.
And therein lies the crux of my problem with some people who would want to be jurors in such a case. Their ability to discern judgment is outstripped by their desire to come up with bizarre scenarios consistent with innocence because that's what they see in the contrived plots of TV crime shows.
Before you get too vexed at the views expressed above, you just need to look at who made that statement to know why it is seriously flawed.
A history of bleeding heart Liberalism, feminism and political correctness makes such a person, and people like her, absolutely incapable of reasonable discerning unbiased judgment based on facts and evidence presented.
>WillBrink wrote: > > >>"David Cohen" <[email hidden]> wrote: >> >> >> >>>I just turned on the local news, and learned that the Las Vegas >>>Metropolitan Police Department is searching for Craig Titus, and his >>>wife, as the prime suspects in the murder of a woman a few days ago! >> >>For real? > >Hold onto the term "suspect". Turn it around in your heads a few times. >It's not quite time to execute him. He still gets a trial.
Yup. I can't wait to hear the explanation for driving the body out into the desert and setting her, and the car, on fire.
This is Nevada, not California or Massechusetts. We tend to convict those charged with murder, and tend to execute them.
Just because you can't imagine the scenario in which he isn't guilty, doesn't mean he IS guilty. And therein lies the crux of my problem with capital punishment. Our ability to punish outstrips our ability to discern judgment.
And therein lies the crux of my problem with some people who would want to be jurors in such a case.
I assure you that I have no desire to be a juror.
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Their ability to discern judgment is outstripped by their desire to come up with bizarre scenarios consistent with innocence because that's what they see in the contrived plots of TV crime shows.
I disagree. I think that most murders are committed by the people who love you most or in stupid alcohol/drug-induced lack of judgment. I know that bizarre murders are a once-a-decade sort of thing. I figure Jon Bonet Ramsey was killed by her nine-year-old brother.
I wouldn't hesitate to convict someone if I thought they really did it. I understand the difference between "reasonable" and "unreasonable" doubt. Nicole Brown was murdered by SOMEONE. But just because I think that is the most probably explanation doesn't mean I think the guy should be put to death based on my best guess of what happened.
Because once in a while we're wrong. And we don't know in advance which times those are going to be.
"Dally" <[email hidden]> wrote >WillBrink wrote: >> "David Cohen" <[email hidden]> wrote: >>>I just turned on the local news, and learned that the Las Vegas >>>Metropolitan Police Department is searching for Craig Titus, and his >>>wife, as the prime suspects in the murder of a woman a few days ago! >> >>For real? > >Hold onto the term "suspect". Turn it around in your heads a few times. >It's not quite time to execute him. He still gets a trial.
Yup. I can't wait to hear the explanation for driving the body out into the desert and setting her, and the car, on fire.
This is Nevada, not California or Massechusetts. We tend to convict those charged with murder, and tend to execute them.
Just because you can't imagine the scenario in which he isn't guilty, doesn't mean he IS guilty. And therein lies the crux of my problem with capital punishment. Our ability to punish outstrips our ability to discern judgment.
LOL! Stop talking sense!
Have you noticed that the talk is not as to his guilt or innocence?
Most people arrested by the police are guilty. An even higher percentage of those arrested for murder are guilty. An even higher percentage of those actually charged/indicted for murder are guilty. Nearly everyone convicted of murder is guilty. The exceptions are rare, and therefore newsworthy. You never hear the news state "Joe Schmuck, on death row, is STILL guilty."
You, and your Tookie Williams liberal fantasies, notwithstanding.
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"Dally" <[email hidden]> wrote
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David Cohen wrote: > "Dally" <[email hidden]> wrote >>WillBrink wrote: >>> "David Cohen" <[email hidden]> wrote: >>>>I just turned on the local news, and learned that the Las Vegas >>>>Metropolitan Police Department is searching for Craig Titus, and his >>>>wife, as the prime suspects in the murder of a woman a few days ago! >>> >>>For real? >> >>Hold onto the term "suspect". Turn it around in your heads a few >>times. >>It's not quite time to execute him. He still gets a trial. > > Yup. I can't wait to hear the explanation for driving the body out > into > the desert and setting her, and the car, on fire. > > This is Nevada, not California or Massechusetts. We tend to convict > those > charged with murder, and tend to execute them.
Just because you can't imagine the scenario in which he isn't guilty, doesn't mean he IS guilty. And therein lies the crux of my problem with capital punishment. Our ability to punish outstrips our ability to discern judgment.
LOL! Stop talking sense!
Have you noticed that the talk is not as to his guilt or innocence?
Most people arrested by the police are guilty. An even higher percentage of those arrested for murder are guilty. An even higher percentage of those actually charged/indicted for murder are guilty. Nearly everyone convicted of murder is guilty. The exceptions are rare, and therefore newsworthy. You never hear the news state "Joe Schmuck, on death row, is STILL guilty."
You, and your Tookie Williams liberal fantasies, notwithstanding.
"Dally" <[email hidden]> wrote > David Cohen wrote: >> "Dally" <[email hidden]> wrote >>>WillBrink wrote: >>>> "David Cohen" <[email hidden]> wrote: >>>>>I just turned on the local news, and learned that the Las Vegas >>>>>Metropolitan Police Department is searching for Craig Titus, and his >>>>>wife, as the prime suspects in the murder of a woman a few days ago! >>>> >>>>For real? >>> >>>Hold onto the term "suspect". Turn it around in your heads a few >>>times. >>>It's not quite time to execute him. He still gets a trial. >> >> Yup. I can't wait to hear the explanation for driving the body out >> into >> the desert and setting her, and the car, on fire. >> >> This is Nevada, not California or Massechusetts. We tend to convict >> those >> charged with murder, and tend to execute them. > > Just because you can't imagine the scenario in which he isn't guilty, > doesn't mean he IS guilty. And therein lies the crux of my problem > with > capital punishment. Our ability to punish outstrips our ability to > discern judgment.
LOL! Stop talking sense!
Have you noticed that the talk is not as to his guilt or innocence?
Most people arrested by the police are guilty. An even higher percentage of those arrested for murder are guilty. An even higher percentage of those actually charged/indicted for murder are guilty. Nearly everyone convicted of murder is guilty. The exceptions are rare, and therefore newsworthy. You never hear the news state "Joe Schmuck, on death row, is STILL guilty."
You, and your Tookie Williams liberal fantasies, notwithstanding.
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What's your source?
Vinnie "The Chin" Orchenzo, down on Fremont around Ninth Street. Good [censored], fair prices.
Most people arrested by the police are guilty. An even higher percentage of those arrested for murder are guilty. An even higher percentage of those actually charged/indicted for murder are guilty. Nearly everyone convicted of murder is guilty. The exceptions are rare, and therefore newsworthy. You never hear the news state "Joe Schmuck, on death row, is STILL guilty."
You, and your Tookie Williams liberal fantasies, notwithstanding.
I didn't protest Tookie Williams' execution.
I don't dispute your assertion, either. I just want to focus a little bit of attention on MOST people, and "higher percentage", and "nearly everyone convicted is guilty". I totally agree. But the point is that sometimes, in low percentage of times, in freakish circumstances, someone is NOT guilty of the crime in which they are suspected, charged and convicted.
That's why the death penalty is wrong. The evil of executing an innocent person outweighs the very little good you might attribute to it.
"Dally" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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David Cohen said:
Most people arrested by the police are guilty. An even higher percentage of those arrested for murder are guilty. An even higher percentage of those actually charged/indicted for murder are guilty. Nearly everyone convicted of murder is guilty. The exceptions are rare, and therefore newsworthy. You never hear the news state "Joe Schmuck, on death row, is STILL guilty."
You, and your Tookie Williams liberal fantasies, notwithstanding.
I didn't protest Tookie Williams' execution.
I don't dispute your assertion, either. I just want to focus a little bit of attention on MOST people, and "higher percentage", and "nearly everyone convicted is guilty". I totally agree. But the point is that sometimes, in low percentage of times, in freakish circumstances, someone is NOT guilty of the crime in which they are suspected, charged and convicted.
That's why the death penalty is wrong. The evil of executing an innocent person outweighs the very little good you might attribute to it.
Better 12 innocent men die than one guilty man goes free
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"Dally" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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David Cohen said:
Most people arrested by the police are guilty. An even higher percentage of those arrested for murder are guilty. An even higher percentage of those actually charged/indicted for murder are guilty. Nearly everyone convicted of murder is guilty. The exceptions are rare, and therefore newsworthy. You never hear the news state "Joe Schmuck, on death row, is STILL guilty."
You, and your Tookie Williams liberal fantasies, notwithstanding.
I didn't protest Tookie Williams' execution.
I don't dispute your assertion, either. I just want to focus a little bit of attention on MOST people, and "higher percentage", and "nearly everyone convicted is guilty". I totally agree. But the point is that sometimes, in low percentage of times, in freakish circumstances, someone is NOT guilty of the crime in which they are suspected, charged and convicted.
That's why the death penalty is wrong. The evil of executing an innocent person outweighs the very little good you might attribute to it.
Better 12 innocent men die than one guilty man goes free