Tubular Tires Advices.

Hi All,

just bought my very first tubular wheelset, and need some help and advice.
what do i need, besides a spare tire, in my saddle bag? is there saddle bag
big enough for a spare tire? is the tufo sealant good for both butyl and
latex tubed tubular tires? the tires that came with my wheelset are vittoria
CX any good? i also have 2 brand new continental sprinter tires. as i
understand, i will be having a lot less pinch flat? if i get a flat, can the
tires be patched? if yes, instruction please, or where to send to for
repair? TIA for a your advice. Happy Holidays to all.

Dzung

Mike T. Nguyen said:

Hi All,

just bought my very first tubular wheelset, and need some help and advice.
what do i need, besides a spare tire, in my saddle bag?

Nope,, preglue the spare

is there saddle bag

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big enough for a spare tire?

Yep, but I just wrap mine in an old sock and use a toe strap, looks
better.

is the tufo sealant good for both butyl and

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latex tubed tubular tires?

Never used it but I don't think for latex...could be wrong.

the tires that came with my wheelset are vittoria

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CX any good?

Very nice, hand made, cotton tubies.

i also have 2 brand new continental sprinter tires. as i

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understand, i will be having a lot less pinch flat?

Probably have none-much different design that the 'edge' of the
clincher rim. No need to use much more than 100 psi either.

if i get a flat, can the

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tires be patched? if yes, instruction please, or where to send to for
repair? TIA for a your advice. Happy Holidays to all.

Tire Alert in FL, or learn to take it apart, patch tube and re-sew-not
that hard.

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Dzung

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is there saddle bag

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big enough for a spare tire?

There are special oval shaped bags which fit a double-rolled tubular
just right. You hold the tire at the top with the valve at the bottom,
letteing the two sides hang down. Twist the two hanging parts such tha
the tread is facing away from you. Fold about a 2" section down and
continue folding/rolling. You should have two "rolls" next to each
other when you are done, and the valve as the last part.

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Yep, but I just wrap mine in an old sock and use a toe strap, looks
better.

The sock is to protect the tire from chafing. Make sure the valve
doesn't chafe the casing!

If you really want to go old-school, use an old newspaper instead of
the sock. Extra points if it is pink!

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understand, i will be having a lot less pinch flat?

Probably have none-much different design that the 'edge' of the
clincher rim. No need to use much more than 100 psi either.

Pinch flats are just about impossible. I have ridden full steam into a
sharp edged pothole which bent my rim to look like a pac-man and didn't
get a flat. There was about a 2" gap under the tire where the rim was
bent inward. Just rode it home.

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if i get a flat, can the

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tires be patched? if yes, instruction please, or where to send to for
repair? TIA for a your advice. Happy Holidays to all.

Tire Alert in FL, or learn to take it apart, patch tube and re-sew-not
that hard.

Find the glass or whatever and remove it. Peel off about 3-4" of the
backing tape just at the flat. Don't rip it. Use a razor to gently cut
some of the exposed threads that were under the backing strip. Only cut
as much as you have to to be able to pull some of the tube out of the
hole. Patch the tube, and stuff it back in. Make sure it isn't twisted.
Sew it up! Use strong thread and a dull needle. Use the same holes as
the thread you took out. Glue the backing strip on again, and you are
in business.

Joseph

Mike T. Nguyen said:

just bought my very first tubular wheelset, and need some help and advice.
what do i need, besides a spare tire, in my saddle bag? is there saddle bag
big enough for a spare tire? is the tufo sealant good for both butyl and
latex tubed tubular tires? the tires that came with my wheelset are vittoria
CX any good? i also have 2 brand new continental sprinter tires. as i
understand, i will be having a lot less pinch flat? if i get a flat, can the
tires be patched? if yes, instruction please, or where to send to for
repair? TIA for a your advice. Happy Holidays to all.

There's a Jannd bag ("Tire Bag II"😉 that will hold two spare tubulars,
which slide past each other a lot easier if they are folded up inside
old (or new, if you prefer) socks. This bag has side pockets for other
small tools besides a tire lever, which might come in handy if your
tires are glued on "hard"-- and, something you should check if someone
else glued on your new tires. IME, Vittorias didn't like being used for
spares, where the Conti Sprinter used to be a choice for spares as they
folded well and were robust (i.e. held air and got you home).

The CX might be a little small for use on the rear if you are heavy.

I had some Conti Giro tubies recently that seemed to be good stuff,
except no latex on sidewalls/base tape, which can be painted on;
available these days from stage makeup suppliers, the old standby Tire
Life seeming to have gone the way of the tubular bicycle tire.
--D-y

Peter states:

<No need to use much more than 100 psi either. >

This is interesting. According to the one guy in our group that still
uses tubies, one "advantage" of sew-up tires is that he can pump his
700x21 or 22 tires up to like 130 or 140psi, yet still have a
comfortable ride. He said at 130-140psi, you get lower rolling
resistance and the bike will roll faster.

When I rode his bike, with tires pumped up to 140psi, it felt "as
comfortable" as my 700x25 Avocet Fasgrip tires pumped to 100psi. It
didn't seem to "roll" any faster than my bike either. Btw, I still beat
him up the hill, tubie or not.....

Dans le message de
news:[email hidden],
bfd <[email hidden]> a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :

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Peter states:

<No need to use much more than 100 psi either. >

This is interesting. According to the one guy in our group that still
uses tubies, one "advantage" of sew-up tires is that he can pump his
700x21 or 22 tires up to like 130 or 140psi, yet still have a
comfortable ride. He said at 130-140psi, you get lower rolling
resistance and the bike will roll faster.

Invite this guy to write in r.b.r. It's the ideal place for extremist
views, both Luddite and futureshock.
--
Sandy
--
C'est le contraire du vélo, la bicyclette.
Une silhouette profilée mauve fluo dévale
à soixante-dix à l'heure : c'est du vélo.
Deux lycéennes côte à côte traversent
un pont à Bruges : c'est de la bicyclette.
-Delerm, P.

Mike T. Nguyen said:

Hi All,

just bought my very first tubular wheelset, and need some help and advice.
what do i need, besides a spare tire, in my saddle bag?

Make sure said spare has been mounted on a rim (with glue) at least. I
prefer to use tires that have been ridden on as a spare, but to start out
that is clearly not possible.

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is there saddle bag
big enough for a spare tire?

sure. Lots of 'em. Tradition, though, is to stuff the spare in a sock
and use a toeclip to hang it from the saddle rails.

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is the tufo sealant good for both butyl and
latex tubed tubular tires?

I have no clue, since I never would consider using such stuff.

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the tires that came with my wheelset are
vittoria CX any good? i also have 2 brand new continental sprinter
tires.

The Conti's are better.

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as i understand, i will be having a lot less pinch flat?

Did you get a lot of pinch flats with clinchers? I haven't gotten one
yet, in the 5+ years since I dumped my tubulars.

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if i get
a flat, can the tires be patched?

On the road? No. At home, yes.

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if yes, instruction please, or where
to send to for repair?

If you are going to bother with these, learn to patch them. The r.b.t FAQ
has instructions by Jobst Brandt that are good, and I think Sheldon
Brown's website has some as well. It is tedious, but it is not rocket
science.

--

David L. Johnson

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