Warmup Methods

Doug Freese said:

Females learn to walk with greater attention to posture
which seems to carry over into running.

John Wayne used to walk that way, one foot in front
of the other with toes pointed straight ahead. He
got that tip from Harry Cary and used it for
distinctive posture attenuation in all his movies.
Course women have an entirely different pelvic
construction and thus effect (at least for
heterosexuals...)

On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 01:12:13 -0700, Tom Phillips <[email hidden]>

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and thus effect (at least for
heterosexuals...)

Like he'd know....

On Sun, 18 Dec 2005 01:24:50 -0700, Tom Phillips <[email hidden]>

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Just prefer that to Doug's bragging...

But not over his naked pics?

Dot said:

Doug Freese said:

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The problem is when the entire week is that way and no end in sight.
🙁 Actually, rain isn't the issue so much as rain on top of ice, which
approaches frictionless surface. Flats are difficult, never mind
hills.

These are the extenuating circumstances that justify a treadmill. I
would go nuts with these conditions. Simple ice, if there is such a
thing, would bring out my screw shoes and have done this in past years.
Add water and thus wet feet and I won't go out the door unless I have
hip boots with screws. My feet are sensitive to cold so I have to be
careful in general with socks. Add water and I can not find a comfort
level.

I've been trying something on the treadmill recently. The idea came
when I went to run one day and forgot my shoes. I wasn't quite prepared
to run shoeless outside, so I tried stocking feet on the treadmill. It
wasn't fun, but it might be a good way for me to include some shoeless
running as the transition to barefoot running outdoors.

For whatever reason, as long as I'm moving, my feet do not feel the
cold. (cold and wet isn't comfortable, but it is tolerable)

I just put on the screws to my old sauconys. they really help in the
ice. And make a great tapping rythm on the bare concrete and asphalt!

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Most of this (at least on flats or hills) isn't wet enough to worry
about wet feet, although there are a few low spots where things have
pooled or are slushy. RD's description of trail for our cancelled ss
race: "river of slick ice and not suitable for any type of race".

I've managed to negotiate outdoor runs of reasonable meaning most of the
time. But end of the week was such that I did get about 3 mi (45-50 min)
in Thurs (before boredom overtook me running back and forth on 400m farm
field), but didn't feel that it served much purpose other than short
time on legs, and wasn't willing to expand the risk factor beyond that.
Yea, I could've made it more challenging by running through the tall
grass rather than the tire track from a farm vehicle, but somehow that
idea didn't thrill me. (FWIW, it was in the dark, light rain, 10-20mph
wind parallel to field, and there was probably some ice under the grass.
I was using STabilicers for traction.)

I guess you have to go for the heavy gear in your climate. Impressive
that you get out in that weather for relatively consistant runs.

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I'm particularly frustrated since I'm feeling like things are starting
to come together for me - and I won't be interrupted by field season -
if I could just get some decent footing to start getting some long runs
in again. (Most of my regular runs the past month have been about 1.5-2
hr, with the exception of 45-60 min recovery run the day after my
cross-training class. Several of those were ss runs). My cross-training
class ensures at least one workout each week with good footing, but it
only has about 1.5 hr of non-stretching type workout, ie. cardio and
strength.

It is tough this time of year, but every run is one more in the books
and more importantly one more on your legs. If any words of
encouragement from us will make the difference, let us know. (Three
cheers for DOT!)

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Gotta get dressed to run, the harem and breakfast awaits. A new route
today plotted with the usatf mapping tool
http://www.usatf.org/routes/map/ Damn, that tool is neat. Found some
new routes in a few minutes and didn't have to drive around. I know the
area well and there are lots of hills but the tool knows nothing about
elevation and could be a problem.

Uncle Doug has a new play toy. 🙂 It's probably ok if you're on roads or
someplace with more recent satellite images than they have for Alaska.
I've looked at a couple of those on-line tools and they're always
terrible for where I am. I couldn't figure out what people were raving
about, until I saw a bit near Anchorage, where they do have better
images. I've been using commercial mapping software, which works better
here - at least some of them do. I depend on the altimeter in my hrm for
elevation change on things I run, and topo lines for things I haven't
run yet.

Enjoy your new toy!

Dot

Thanks Doug for a pointer to a great toy. I'll start saving my routes
so you can see where I run.

And Dot, I hope you get out enough to meet your winter goals. I'm
working to get the mileage up and winter is not going to stop me.

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--
"You'll never hear me say I beat the Peak. I've run up there pretty
fast, and that mountain doesn't care. I'll never conquer the Peak." -
Matt Carpenter

Ed Prochak said:

Dot wrote:

I've been trying something on the treadmill recently. The idea came
when I went to run one day and forgot my shoes. I wasn't quite prepared
to run shoeless outside, so I tried stocking feet on the treadmill. It
wasn't fun, but it might be a good way for me to include some shoeless
running as the transition to barefoot running outdoors.

We do barefoot running on gymnastics floor exercise mats. I think that
has helped strengthen my feet as much as anything. I put the shoes on
for the circuits though where we use treadmills - too many people
running multiple directions to the next station.

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I guess you have to go for the heavy gear in your climate. Impressive
that you get out in that weather for relatively consistant runs.

It really doesn't take that many layers (until subzero) for short runs,
esp. if snowshoe running on trails out of the wind. Heck, I'm only
training for short runs. Some of the people I know are training for 100
(run) or 350 (bike) mile winter races.

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If any words of
encouragement from us will make the difference, let us know.

Thanks, Ed. Just pray for snow - at least 6 inches, preferably more. 🙂
Thousands of Alaskans will be jumping for joy if we get some decent snow
soon.

Dot

--
"You’ll never hear me say I beat the Peak. I’ve run up there pretty
fast, and that mountain doesn’t care. I’ll never conquer the Peak." -
Matt Carpenter

Dot said:

Ed Prochak said:

I guess you have to go for the heavy gear in your climate. Impressive
that you get out in that weather for relatively consistant runs.

It really doesn't take that many layers (until subzero) for short runs,
esp. if snowshoe running on trails out of the wind. Heck, I'm only
training for short runs. Some of the people I know are training for 100
(run) or 350 (bike) mile winter races.

I agree. two layers (thicker poly plus wind layer) is
all you need for about +10 to zero. Otherwise sweat
will outweigh insulation...

It's all relative, a matter of physical activity vs.
the cold. George Mallory and CO. wore tweed and wool
on Everest. One would think they'd have froze at 28k
feet minus modern synthetics and down insulation, but
what they would do is actually open the layers to cool
and evaporate during constant physical activity. Worked
well enough to keep 1920's climbers warm in Jet Stream
altitudes... note Mallory didn't die from hypothermia
though his frozen remains are well preserved...

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If any words of
encouragement from us will make the difference, let us know.

Thanks, Ed. Just pray for snow - at least 6 inches, preferably more. 🙂
Thousands of Alaskans will be jumping for joy if we get some decent snow
soon.

We got lots amd lots. Want to borrow some for Xmas? :-)