Microwave without Carousel?

After a decade of daily use, my GE convection-microwave crapped
out. We're looking for another to take its place. In hitting the
different appliance stores and local dept. stores, all we saw were
vent/exhaust-microwaves and carousel microwaves. Do they no longer
make non-carousel microwaves? If so, is there one that's durable
enough for daily use like models or yore?

Many thanks for any leads.

The Ranger

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

You WANT the carousel!!! :-)
It keeps you from having to turn stuff half-way thru microwaving.

Things cook a lot more evenly.

No, you DON'T want it.

What you want is the more expensive (but probably not made any more) method
of spreading the waves around by use of a reflective paddle under the floor
of the microwave. Far superior, it was in our old Quasar mw and worked
well. You could better utilize the space with square pans in a square space.
It cooks thing far more evenly than a rotating dish.

On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 23:41:48 -0600, OmManiPadmeOmelet
<[email hidden]> replied:

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>, The Ranger <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

After a decade of daily use, my GE convection-microwave crapped
out. We're looking for another to take its place. In hitting the
different appliance stores and local dept. stores, all we saw were
vent/exhaust-microwaves and carousel microwaves. Do they no longer
make non-carousel microwaves? If so, is there one that's durable
enough for daily use like models or yore?

Many thanks for any leads.

You WANT the carousel!!! :-)
It keeps you from having to turn stuff half-way thru microwaving.

Things cook a lot more evenly.

You're right; I do want the carousel. Carousels do save you that
obnoxious 1/4-turn mid-cooking. Foods _do_ cook more evenly (and
often more quickly) with a carousel. But...

SWMBO, the other cook for Clan Ranger and user of the kitchen
microwave most often, does NOT want a carousel in her microwave.
Her mother never had one so she doesn't need one. You know;
they're just too new-fangled and different. She'd have to learn
how to cook all over again. She doesn't know what they are but
she's ag'init!

And since I grow weary of always being wrong when I argue with
SWMBO, it's easiest to shrug my shoulders, readjust the weight of
the world upon them, and trudge along without saying anything
more.

The Ranger

The Ranger said:

On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 23:41:48 -0600, OmManiPadmeOmelet
<[email hidden]> replied:

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>, The Ranger <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

After a decade of daily use, my GE convection-microwave crapped
out. We're looking for another to take its place. In hitting the
different appliance stores and local dept. stores, all we saw were
vent/exhaust-microwaves and carousel microwaves. Do they no longer
make non-carousel microwaves? If so, is there one that's durable
enough for daily use like models or yore?

Many thanks for any leads.

You WANT the carousel!!! :-)
It keeps you from having to turn stuff half-way thru microwaving.

Things cook a lot more evenly.

You're right; I do want the carousel. Carousels do save you that
obnoxious 1/4-turn mid-cooking. Foods _do_ cook more evenly (and
often more quickly) with a carousel. But...

SWMBO, the other cook for Clan Ranger and user of the kitchen
microwave most often, does NOT want a carousel in her microwave.
Her mother never had one so she doesn't need one. You know;
they're just too new-fangled and different. She'd have to learn
how to cook all over again. She doesn't know what they are but
she's ag'init!

And since I grow weary of always being wrong when I argue with
SWMBO, it's easiest to shrug my shoulders, readjust the weight of
the world upon them, and trudge along without saying anything
more.

Buy her a charcoal grill instead. Tell her it's the best you could do with the
technology she'll allow.

Otherwise, get the carousel and tell her to adapt. This is the 21st century, why use 20th
century products?

--
Rick R
[email hidden]
replace default with com to email

The Ranger said:

SWMBO, the other cook for Clan Ranger and user of the kitchen
microwave most often, does NOT want a carousel in her microwave.
Her mother never had one so she doesn't need one. You know;
they're just too new-fangled and different. She'd have to learn
how to cook all over again. She doesn't know what they are but
she's ag'init!

And since I grow weary of always being wrong when I argue with
SWMBO, it's easiest to shrug my shoulders, readjust the weight of
the world upon them, and trudge along without saying anything
more.

What is a SWMBO? I think she's right 🙂 I have two microwaves and one
has the carousel and is three times the power of the other without the
carousel. Both have their advantages. Low power cooking that is ON all
the time is better than this On and Off dance the microwaves do for
reduced power. Apparently they can't reduce the power so they reduce
the time. Some things cook better on pure 100% low power.

The carousel helps a little but not all that much. And the turn is 45
degrees not the usual 90 that is stated, yes? One can get a plain
microwave and the carousel later from Nordicware. So the best of both
worlds. A square large space without the carousel, and the carousel for
most things although it's probably a pain to wind the carousel up.
Hmmm, tough call. If you are not cooking large square things, get the
carousel. It's fun to worry about the microwaves watching the thing go
around and trying to see if the dish is frothing at the mouth. And what
is this doing to my eyeballs.

What is this reflective paddle for the non-carousel Quasar? That sounds
interesting.

<[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

What is this reflective paddle for the non-carousel Quasar? That sounds
interesting.

I don't think it is made any more. When I bought our first OTR microwave,
Quasar had a unit with a paddle hidden under the floor of the oven. It
slowly rotated and bounced the waves around so no carousel was needed for it
to cook evenly. It made utilizing the square compartment much easier with
multiple dishes side by side instead of trying to fit things on a rotating
plate. It probably cost a bit more to build that way though as I've not
seen any built that way in recent years. .

The Ranger said:

After a decade of daily use, my GE convection-microwave crapped
out. We're looking for another to take its place. In hitting the
different appliance stores and local dept. stores, all we saw were
vent/exhaust-microwaves and carousel microwaves. Do they no longer
make non-carousel microwaves? If so, is there one that's durable
enough for daily use like models or yore?

Many thanks for any leads.

The Ranger

The inexpensive microwave I bought 10 years ago has a carousel and no OFF
switch, which bugs the heck out of me. It can easily fit a 9X13 baking dish
but you can't turn off the turntable so the baking dish is of no use in it.
It's like not being able to turn off Disco music. If you find one, please
let me know!

Jill

SWMBO - She who must be obeyed

<[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

The Ranger said:

SWMBO, the other cook for Clan Ranger and user of the kitchen
microwave most often, does NOT want a carousel in her microwave.
Her mother never had one so she doesn't need one. You know;
they're just too new-fangled and different. She'd have to learn
how to cook all over again. She doesn't know what they are but
she's ag'init!

And since I grow weary of always being wrong when I argue with
SWMBO, it's easiest to shrug my shoulders, readjust the weight of
the world upon them, and trudge along without saying anything
more.

What is a SWMBO? I think she's right 🙂 I have two microwaves and one
has the carousel and is three times the power of the other without the
carousel. Both have their advantages. Low power cooking that is ON all
the time is better than this On and Off dance the microwaves do for
reduced power. Apparently they can't reduce the power so they reduce
the time. Some things cook better on pure 100% low power.

The carousel helps a little but not all that much. And the turn is 45
degrees not the usual 90 that is stated, yes? One can get a plain
microwave and the carousel later from Nordicware. So the best of both
worlds. A square large space without the carousel, and the carousel for
most things although it's probably a pain to wind the carousel up.
Hmmm, tough call. If you are not cooking large square things, get the
carousel. It's fun to worry about the microwaves watching the thing go
around and trying to see if the dish is frothing at the mouth. And what
is this doing to my eyeballs.

What is this reflective paddle for the non-carousel Quasar? That sounds
interesting.

On Sat 17 Dec 2005 11:34:36p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Edwin
Pawlowski?

Quoted message said:

<[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

What is this reflective paddle for the non-carousel Quasar? That sounds
interesting.

I don't think it is made any more. When I bought our first OTR
microwave, Quasar had a unit with a paddle hidden under the floor of the
oven. It slowly rotated and bounced the waves around so no carousel was
needed for it to cook evenly. It made utilizing the square compartment
much easier with multiple dishes side by side instead of trying to fit
things on a rotating plate. It probably cost a bit more to build that
way though as I've not seen any built that way in recent years. .

Some of the GE OTR microwave ovens also had that feature, but they have
since gone to turntables. I really liked that design.

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
_____________________________________________

A chicken in every pot is a *LOT* of chicken!

The Ranger said:

SWMBO, the other cook for Clan Ranger and user of the kitchen
microwave most often, does NOT want a carousel in her microwave.
Her mother never had one so she doesn't need one. You know;
they're just too new-fangled and different. She'd have to learn
how to cook all over again. She doesn't know what they are but
she's ag'init!

And since I grow weary of always being wrong when I argue with
SWMBO, it's easiest to shrug my shoulders, readjust the weight of
the world upon them, and trudge along without saying anything
more.

What is a SWMBO? I think she's right 🙂 I have two microwaves and one
has the carousel and is three times the power of the other without the
carousel. Both have their advantages. Low power cooking that is ON all
the time is better than this On and Off dance the microwaves do for
reduced power. Apparently they can't reduce the power so they reduce
the time. Some things cook better on pure 100% low power.

The carousel helps a little but not all that much. And the turn is 45
degrees not the usual 90 that is stated, yes? One can get a plain
microwave and the carousel later from Nordicware. So the best of both
worlds. A square large space without the carousel, and the carousel for
most things although it's probably a pain to wind the carousel up.
Hmmm, tough call. If you are not cooking large square things, get the
carousel. It's fun to worry about the microwaves watching the thing go
around and trying to see if the dish is frothing at the mouth. And what
is this doing to my eyeballs.

What is this reflective paddle for the non-carousel Quasar? That sounds
interesting.

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

The Ranger said:

After a decade of daily use, my GE convection-microwave crapped
out. We're looking for another to take its place. In hitting the
different appliance stores and local dept. stores, all we saw were
vent/exhaust-microwaves and carousel microwaves. Do they no longer
make non-carousel microwaves? If so, is there one that's durable
enough for daily use like models or yore?

Many thanks for any leads.

The Ranger

You WANT the carousel!!! :-)
It keeps you from having to turn stuff half-way thru microwaving.

Things cook a lot more evenly.

Cheers!!!

Not if you need to use a rectangular pan that doesn't "fit" and you can turn
it yourself. I am perfectly capable of turning a pan myself. I do it all
the time in my regular "irregular" apartment oven. No need to have special
skills to turn a dish around in a microwave 🙂

Jill

The Ranger said:

After a decade of daily use, my GE convection-microwave crapped
out. We're looking for another to take its place. In hitting the
different appliance stores and local dept. stores, all we saw were
vent/exhaust-microwaves and carousel microwaves. Do they no longer
make non-carousel microwaves? If so, is there one that's durable
enough for daily use like models or yore?

Many thanks for any leads.

The Ranger

The poorest performing nukes use a stirrer and no turntable. A stirrer
is a rotating metal flapwheel either in the ceiling or floor of the
machine, and it bounces the radio waves around at various angles.

These machines are best avoided. They require turning the food by hand
during cooking, and produce the highest incidence of food poisoning,
due to giving the least even cooking. They are also quite prone to
stirrer failure. These machines were popular in the 70s.

The next best type uses a turntable to rotate the food. Better results
than the stirrer, but you cant put as big a dish in. In practice one
can sometimes turn the turntable upside down so it doesnt turn, or on a
few of them swtch it off, and use the space fully. But heating tends to
be very uneven like this, and its not recommended.

The best machines use both stirrer and turntable. If you can afford a
good microwave, ensure it has both stirrer and tt. These really are
much better than the usual turntable types, but for some reason theyre
quite a bit more money.

If youre extra lucky, you might even find one where you can switch the
tt off and use large dishes, but you will get more basic performance in
this mode.

NT

In article <[email hidden]>,

The Ranger said:

After a decade of daily use, my GE convection-microwave crapped
out. We're looking for another to take its place. In hitting the
different appliance stores and local dept. stores, all we saw were
vent/exhaust-microwaves and carousel microwaves. Do they no longer
make non-carousel microwaves? If so, is there one that's durable
enough for daily use like models or yore?

Many thanks for any leads.

The Ranger

AFAIK (VOE here) the best you can do is with a microwave whose turntable
is set to that the top of it is flush with the floor of the microwave.
And if you don't want the turntable to turn you shut it off. Mine's an
Amana over the range.
--
http://www.jamlady.eboard.com, updated 12-13-05 - RIP, Gerri

In article <[email hidden]>,

Quoted post said:

The Ranger said:

SWMBO, the other cook for Clan Ranger and user of the kitchen

Quoted message said:

What is a SWMBO?

She Who Must Be Obeyed. Ranger's mistress.
--
http://www.jamlady.eboard.com, updated 12-13-05 - RIP, Gerri

Edwin Pawlowski said:

<[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

What is this reflective paddle for the non-carousel Quasar? That sounds
interesting.

I don't think it is made any more. When I bought our first OTR microwave,
Quasar had a unit with a paddle hidden under the floor of the oven. It
slowly rotated and bounced the waves around so no carousel was needed for it
to cook evenly. It made utilizing the square compartment much easier with
multiple dishes side by side instead of trying to fit things on a rotating
plate. It probably cost a bit more to build that way though as I've not
seen any built that way in recent years. .

Our first microwave (a Thermador,which cost ~$600 20 years ago) had a
paddle. The only breakdown it had was the motor that drove the paddle.
That was probably because it got hot being on top of the cavity. Other
than the space issues you mentioned I think the $80 turntable version we
bought last year to replace the Thermador cooks just as uniformly.

Edwin Pawlowski said:

<[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

What is this reflective paddle for the non-carousel Quasar? That sounds
interesting.

I don't think it is made any more. When I bought our first OTR microwave,
Quasar had a unit with a paddle hidden under the floor of the oven. It
slowly rotated and bounced the waves around so no carousel was needed for it
to cook evenly. It made utilizing the square compartment much easier with
multiple dishes side by side instead of trying to fit things on a rotating
plate. It probably cost a bit more to build that way though as I've not
seen any built that way in recent years. .

GE's version 'stirs' the microwaves as generated within the magnetron
(similar to how medical x-rays are 'homogenized' by the rotating
anode), that's how my 25 year old GE works . Since I haven't had to
buy a new microwave oven in all these years I haven't looked into if GE
still uses the same technology I would never want a microwave oven
with the carosel, what a waste of space.

"jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

The Ranger said:

After a decade of daily use, my GE convection-microwave crapped
out. We're looking for another to take its place. In hitting the
different appliance stores and local dept. stores, all we saw were
vent/exhaust-microwaves and carousel microwaves. Do they no longer
make non-carousel microwaves? If so, is there one that's durable
enough for daily use like models or yore?

Many thanks for any leads.

The Ranger

You WANT the carousel!!! :-)
It keeps you from having to turn stuff half-way thru microwaving.

Things cook a lot more evenly.

Cheers!!!

Not if you need to use a rectangular pan that doesn't "fit" and you can
turn
it yourself. I am perfectly capable of turning a pan myself. I do it all
the time in my regular "irregular" apartment oven. No need to have
special
skills to turn a dish around in a microwave 🙂

Jill

I wish my microwave were at straight-out-arms-length. It's too high to
reach up and turn easily. I need special arms that not only bend at the
elbow, but bend between the elbow and wrist.
:-)
Dee Dee

jmcquown said:

The Ranger said:

After a decade of daily use, my GE convection-microwave crapped
out. We're looking for another to take its place. In hitting the
different appliance stores and local dept. stores, all we saw were
vent/exhaust-microwaves and carousel microwaves. Do they no longer
make non-carousel microwaves? If so, is there one that's durable
enough for daily use like models or yore?

Many thanks for any leads.

The Ranger

The inexpensive microwave I bought 10 years ago has a carousel and no OFF
switch, which bugs the heck out of me. It can easily fit a 9X13 baking dish
but you can't turn off the turntable so the baking dish is of no use in it.

Most times the carosel lifts right out.

The Ranger said:

After a decade of daily use, my GE convection-microwave crapped
out. We're looking for another to take its place. In hitting the
different appliance stores and local dept. stores, all we saw were
vent/exhaust-microwaves and carousel microwaves. Do they no longer
make non-carousel microwaves? If so, is there one that's durable
enough for daily use like models or yore?

Many thanks for any leads.

The Ranger

If you are replacing it with a convection-microwave, I recommend the
Panasonic. I have had mine well over a year now and so far it is
flawless. I cannot say that about the two Sharps C/M ovens that
preceded it (ptui. pieces of [censored]).

It microwave beautifully, but more than that, it bakes well enough for
fine loaves of bread and truly functions as a 2nd oven.

I paid less than you see on this site, got it with free shipping and
some great discount at Amazon, too, but that does not seem available
right now. It was way cheaper that way than getting it locally.

http://tinyurl.com/bdphr

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00005QFKW/qid=1134925193/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8__i1_xgl79/103-2874882-3295844?n=507846&s=kitchen&v=glance

Many ovens come with a option to turn off the turntable these days,
which allows use of large rectangular pans.

Boron