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Campag Derailleur - 9 or 10?

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  1. Hi,

    Following an accident, I need to replace the rear derailleur on my
    Veloce 10 speed Winter bike. I have replaced the chainset with a
    compact Campag and I need to know:

    I currently have a short cage. I will be using a 26 tooth cassette
    with the 34/50 chainset, will a medium cage derailleur be my best
    option?

    Secondly, do I need to pay out the extra for a 10 speed rear derailleur
    or will a 9 speed work fine? If it's the jockey wheels that make a
    difference, could I swap them over with the ones currently on my
    damaged 10 speed?

    Thanks in advance guys.

    --
    Mark
    _______________________________________
    Nerves of Steel, Heart of Gold, Knob of Butter

  2. Mark (MSA) said:

    Hi,

    Following an accident, I need to replace the rear derailleur on my
    Veloce 10 speed Winter bike. I have replaced the chainset with a
    compact Campag and I need to know:

    I currently have a short cage. I will be using a 26 tooth cassette
    with the 34/50 chainset, will a medium cage derailleur be my best
    option?

    Rear derailleurs are sized by total capacity. Total capacity is
    measured by taking the difference in teeth between the biggest and
    smallest chainrings and adding the difference in teeth between the
    biggest and smallest cogs on the cassette. So your total capacity is
    50-34 = 16 + 26-13=13 = 29. Official Campagnolo specs are 27 teeth
    for the short cage and 30-32 or something like that for the medium cage
    and 37 for the long cage. Usually you can stretch the capacity a few
    teeth without any problems. You would just have loose chain in the
    small chainring and smallest 1 or 2 cogs. Not a problem since you
    don't use those gears. So you should just try the short cage rear
    derailleur you already own and see if it works fine. It most likely
    will. If you don't like it for some reason, then get a long cage rear
    derailleur. No point getting the medium because the long does the same
    job but is more versatile since you can go to a triple and change inner
    chainrings to the smallest possible and still have the long cage take
    up all of the chain slack.

    Quoted message said:


    Secondly, do I need to pay out the extra for a 10 speed rear derailleur
    or will a 9 speed work fine? If it's the jockey wheels that make a
    difference, could I swap them over with the ones currently on my
    damaged 10 speed?

    9 and 10 speed Campagnolo rear derailleurs are identical except for the
    screen printing on them saying whether they are 9 or 10 speed. You
    could swap the pulleys if it gave you some thrill.

    Quoted message said:


    Thanks in advance guys.

    --
    Mark
    _______________________________________
    Nerves of Steel, Heart of Gold, Knob of Butter

  3. Mark (MSA) said:

    Hi,

    Following an accident, I need to replace the rear derailleur on my
    Veloce 10 speed Winter bike. I have replaced the chainset with a
    compact Campag and I need to know:

    I currently have a short cage. I will be using a 26 tooth cassette
    with the 34/50 chainset, will a medium cage derailleur be my best
    option?

    Either will work. Since your rings are 50/34..no 'need' for ther medium
    or long cage but any will work.

    Quoted message said:


    Secondly, do I need to pay out the extra for a 10 speed rear derailleur
    or will a 9 speed work fine? If it's the jockey wheels that make a
    difference, could I swap them over with the ones currently on my
    damaged 10 speed?

    Use the 9s one w/o modification. No need to muck with the pulleys, just
    put it on, adjust -go ride.

    Quoted message said:


    Thanks in advance guys.

    --
    Mark
    _______________________________________
    Nerves of Steel, Heart of Gold, Knob of Butter

  4. Mark \(MSA\) said:

    I currently have a short cage. I will be using a 26 tooth cassette
    with the 34/50 chainset, will a medium cage derailleur be my best
    option?


    A standard cage rear derailleur will work fine. On most bikes, it
    will work up to a 13/29 rear cassette.

    Quoted message said:


    Secondly, do I need to pay out the extra for a 10 speed rear derailleur
    or will a 9 speed work fine? If it's the jockey wheels that make a
    difference, could I swap them over with the ones currently on my
    damaged 10 speed?

    The pulleys on the recent Veloce 9 speed rear derailleurs say 9-10 on
    them already. I even use 8 speed pulleys with 10 sp chain w/o any
    problems.

  5. Quoted message said:
    Mark \(MSA\) said:

    I currently have a short cage. I will be using a 26 tooth cassette
    with the 34/50 chainset, will a medium cage derailleur be my best
    option?


    A standard cage rear derailleur will work fine. On most bikes, it
    will work up to a 13/29 rear cassette.

    Quoted message said:


    Secondly, do I need to pay out the extra for a 10 speed rear derailleur
    or will a 9 speed work fine? If it's the jockey wheels that make a
    difference, could I swap them over with the ones currently on my
    damaged 10 speed?

    The pulleys on the recent Veloce 9 speed rear derailleurs say 9-10 on
    them already. I even use 8 speed pulleys with 10 sp chain w/o any
    problems.

    Thanks fellas.

    --
    Mark
    _______________________________________
    Nerves of Steel, Heart of Gold, Knob of Butter

  6. Quoted message said:

    9 and 10 speed Campagnolo rear derailleurs are identical except for
    the screen printing on them saying whether they are 9 or 10 speed.
    You could swap the pulleys if it gave you some thrill.

    Not quite correct as the pulley wheel washers (spacers) are different, but
    that won't matter in this case.

    ~PB

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