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  1. Cold is a state of mind. Having moved to California from Colorado
    earlier
    this year, one of the things I was looking forward to was not having to

    endure cold weather. I can only remember seeing snow come out of the
    skies
    in the LA Basin twice in my lifetime, once in Jr High and another time
    in
    the mid 80's. It just doesn't get cold here. The moutains have other
    ideas
    though, at least attaining somewhat cold temeratures in Winter. Still,
    I
    doubt I'll ever be able to match the -19f I experienced XC skiing once
    at
    10,000ft in Colorado. When your toes go numb, it doesn't matter if
    it's
    -19f or 40f though.

    Early starts this time of year are the norm, especially when checking
    out a
    trail that is not as heavily traveled as most others in SoCal.
    Traveling
    through one of the inland valleys on the way I noticed that it was 40f
    out
    and the wind was blowing pretty strong from the North. Bill and John
    showed
    at the trailhead a couple of minutes after I arrived. They had checked
    the
    other trailhead because an earlier conversation led them to believe I
    was
    going to beat them to our planned meeting place and I was not there
    when
    they first arrived. Some drivers just don't heed the "slower traffic
    must
    use turnouts" signs. Jumping out of the truck, I noticed that the 37f
    shown
    was enhanced by the aforementioned stiff breeze out of the North.
    Being
    that the planned route was a point-to-point shuttle to avoid a heavily
    traveled 2-lane highway with loads of weekend traffic, Bill and I
    jammed
    over to the other trailhead to drop my truck off and get back before
    John
    turned into a popsicle.

    My weapon of choice for the day was my heavy bike, which had been more
    of a
    default than choice because of recent maintenance issues on my other
    bikes.
    Bill had brought his new "pig bike" that was about as porky as Arnold
    Ziffel. John had his Maverick American, though admittedly had mostly
    been
    singlespeeding lately. Starting at around 4,500ft, the fireroad climb
    was
    in good shape from the Friday night/Saturday morning rains. The DG
    sand was
    packed down where it was deepest and the surface was definitely
    conducive to
    helping the climb be as a-technical as a fire road can get. That was
    ok
    with all of us, as the cold wind blew and we made haste up the road.

    Starting a ride with an immediate large and sustained climb cold right
    out
    of the truck can be brutal, especially when it's cold. John
    jackrabbited
    up, Bill followed and I started at a true slog pace. John had to peel
    his
    wool shirt after about a half of a mile, but readily passed me again
    after
    getting situated. We rallied up about four places on the climb, though

    there wasn't much waiting going on because it to was too cold to sit
    for too
    long. Being the one rolling up on them each time ther ewas a pause, I
    never
    once lamented about not stopping for a rest. I just wanted to get up
    that
    hill. The saving grace in any of the southerly pitches up was the fact
    that
    the wind was strong enough to give us a push up. As soon as I felt the
    wind
    assisting, I'd sit up as high as I could in the saddle and let the wind
    give
    me a shove. I was wondering if my wind shell would be better put to
    use as
    a sail for these sections. Nearing the top, the puddles in the road
    were
    solid ice, prompting us to get to a place in the Sun to load up on some
    food
    and warm up.

    The consensus at the top concluded that we all had numb toes. We
    actually
    weren't at the top, but decided to stop in the last bit of direct
    sunlight
    to recharge. Looking back down the climb, it was easy to tell we had
    climbed about 3,000 feet in the 7 miles or so of road. It looked so
    much
    closer from the bottom of the climb, as it always does. I decided to
    don
    the hood on my wind shell, which was a first in a long time. Wearing
    black
    had paid off as much as it could have for the conditions, sunny and
    cold.
    For Southern California, it was downright cold.

    http://www.spokejunkies.com/forum/uploads/1132604058/gallery_35_32_133765.jpg

    The break didn't last very long and we zipped up the remaining quarter
    mile
    to the singletrack drop-in. It wasn't an easy trail to find, but was
    right
    there in plain sight off of the road...if one knows what to look for.
    The
    surface was covered in pine straw, pine cones and smatterings of
    varying
    sized "spoke killer" sticks. The trailbed was well designed and well
    built,
    reeking of a CCC build. That in itself was enough to make me readily
    accept
    the lead as offered by Bill and John. A quick drop of the saddle and
    flip
    of the hood back for increased peripheral vision and down the trail we
    filed.

    The pine straw made the surface a little squirrely at times and the
    switchbacks were tight enough to challenge anyone with a cross between
    the
    pine straw and loose DG sand in them. The switchbacks would have been
    a
    little more manageable if a couple of moto abusers had not dug many
    them out
    some the day before. The ones that were not dug out by a pinned
    throttle
    were crosscut and the ditch dug by the spinning wheels of these
    goofballs
    was off-trail. Even so, almost all of the trail was very rideable and
    the
    excellent raw nature overrode any abuses it had unfortunately incurred.

    After struggling with the first few switchbacks, I had to stop and let
    some
    air out of my tires to get better traction. John pulled up after Bill
    and
    said he was having trouble braking in that his brake pads were pretty
    worn
    and the fact that he could not feel his fingers well enough to control
    his
    braking. It was still pretty cold.

    http://www.spokejunkies.com/forum/uploads/1132604058/gallery_35_32_41497.jpg

    The first switchback after letting some air out of my tires let me know
    that
    the right decision had been made, for now. In-between the switchbacks,
    the
    trail twisted, turned, went up slightly here and there and had some fun

    stretches of wide-open cruising. Some of the large granite boulders on
    the
    edges of the trail made for some fun rolling moves, or high speed
    dodging.
    After one particularly fast section, I slowed in the flat that followed
    and
    heard Bill coming in behind me. Then I heard something akin to the
    Jolly
    Green Giant pouring milk on some giant-sized Rice Krispies, SNAP!
    CRACKLE!
    PLOP! The plop part sounded unnatural enough for me to stop and turn
    to see
    Bill through the trees, picking himself up. I yelled over to ask if he
    was
    ok and he replied in an affirmative manner. I pedaled back up the
    trail to
    see John roll up and Bill picking his bike up, with a big spoke killer
    wedged between his fork crown and front tire. Super duper superman! I

    didn't want to laugh, but the pine straw sticking out of his helmet
    reminded
    me of the Scarecrow from the Wizard of Oz and a stifle was in order
    instead
    of the guffaw that was just below the surface. I did remove the straw
    and
    it wasn't just to keep from laughing.

    Hurrying someone who has just biffed is a major no-no. They need to be

    given a chance to recover enough to continue if they are going to do
    so.
    Bill said he was ready pretty quickly, so I led off again. A few more
    traverses led to a little more of an open space where the moss covered
    pine
    trunks and large salt and pepper boulders became more prevalent. This
    also
    included a few more increases in downgrade with tight switchbacks at
    the end
    of each, so keeping a keen eye with the speed became even more
    paramount.
    After one tight switchback that followed an open and fast section, I
    decided
    to pause again because it was out of the wind, in the Sun and I hadn't
    heard
    Bill rattling down the babyheads behind me. Shortly afterwards, I saw
    Bill
    and John come into view and they rolled up to where I had paused.
    Apparently Bill had biffed again and John's hands were still numb, so
    where
    we were at seemed like a good place to pause for a while. The boulders
    in
    the Sun were warmed up, so we used them to warm our hands. Bill's new
    bike
    had taken his biffs worse than he had, with a bit of a wobbly rear
    wheel, a
    bent rear disc rotor and one broken spoke in the front wheel. I
    managed to
    get his rotor bent back to a useable status and he later tied his
    broken
    spoke to another to keep it from rattling.

    Quoted message said:

    From what I had seen on the maps before coming up to this place, I had


    thought the subalpine flora would run out quickly, but it didn't. The
    trees
    thinned a little more, but didn't change. The surface of the trial
    didn't
    change much either, which was fine by me. A few stretches gave way to
    stunning views to the North off of the mountain we were on. If any of
    us
    happened to be an acrophobic, it would not have been a good thing.

    http://www.spokejunkies.com/forum/uploads/1133811944/gallery_35_32_126832.jpg

    After stopping to take a couple of photos of the view, I rode on to
    catch up
    to my compadres. They had stopped at the puzzle of the day, a double
    switchback. The Cha has about 2"+ more wheelbase than all of my other
    bikes
    and the top switcher looked really tight. I rolled in a little high,
    managed a short stall, got just enough front wheel cut and roll,
    followed by
    a small impromptu tail-whip to finish the upper and good roll through
    the
    lower turn. It reminded me a lot of the same type combo on one of my
    favorite Colorado high country trails. They let me take the lead again
    and
    now that Bill had shaken off his miscues and John's hands were no
    longer
    numb, the grouping stayed relatively tight the rest of the way down the

    singletrack.

    Just before the singletrack ended, the trail broke out into the open
    and all
    of a sudden we found ourselves in some high chapparal. It seemed that
    we
    skipped the Transitional zone, but maybe had about a quarter mile of it
    in
    between the other two zones. A short trip in the chapparal and an old
    roadbed presented itself for us to drop down to a historical site and
    smattering of garbifacts. The views were spectacular, especially with
    the
    North wind cleansing the normally hazy conditions. The view sported a
    bird's eye shot of the dilapidated jeep road that was to be the last
    six
    miles of our journey, including my truck parked at the terminus about
    2,000ft below.

    A few final short and rocky climbs finally yielded to downhill only and
    Bill
    led the charge, quite possibly renewed by the increase in temperature
    and
    absence of that cold North wind. Either way, it was nice to just hang
    and
    cruise, the longer travel bikes soaking up all of the babyheads and
    dips
    that the old roadbed could muster. Though weighing in less than Bill
    and
    myself and having a more XC oriented bike, John didn't waste much time
    either...maybe because his hands were now usable and not like a couple
    of
    snow cones on the ends of his arms? Right before Bill stopped after a
    rocky
    turn, I had the good fortune to flip a good sized rock up into my right

    shin. You know, the kind that makes a nice thud noise when it hits and

    tends to leave a good strawberry and lump.

    As I inspected my shin, I noticed my rear tire might have needed a
    little
    more air, but blew it off and told myself to rein it in a little more.
    That
    didn't work. A few turns later and that mushy feeling came from the
    back of
    my bike and I commenced to pulling over. Peeling a thick sidewalled DH
    tire
    from a DH rim can be a task, but the Soma steel levers made quick work
    of
    it, as did Bill's offer of Co2 in filling the new tube that replaced
    the
    snake-bitten one. With renewed confidence from a properly inflated
    rear
    tire, I led off one final time. The grade lessened for just about the
    rest
    of the route, but gave one last hurrah at the very end. Bill took off
    like
    a shot and I followed closely in what he ended up calling "Ludicrous
    Speed"
    in a nice homage to Mr. Brooks. Bill had stopped at the intersection
    we
    were supposed to turn left at near the highway, but I blazed past and
    stopped very shortly thereafter in my first nose wheelie on the Cha.
    That
    bike certainly can make the rider at times.

    http://www.spokejunkies.com/forum/uploads/1132604058/gallery_35_32_2807.jpg

    We hit a quick spin up to my truck on about a quarter mile of the
    dreaded
    highway. I sure was glad we had chosen to use vehicles to connect up
    this
    part of the route because that road was filled with line crowding hogs
    and
    speeding jackasses. Back at the trailhead while transferring bikes and

    gear, it seemed warm out. I couldn't help but wonder how cold it was
    on top
    if we felt warm at the 45f my truck was registering as we pulled out
    and
    headed to town for some post-ride mexican eats. Yeah, it was cold,
    even for
    an expatriate Coloradan.

    JD

  2. "JD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Cold is a state of mind. Having moved to California from Colorado
    earlier
    this year, one of the things I was looking forward to was not having to

    endure cold weather.


    <snip>

    Nice RR, I know exactly how it feels. It snowed here last night, I was
    hoping it would be enough and stick so Jim and I could go xc skiing soon.

    - CA-G

    Can-Am Girls Kick Ass!

  3. JD said:

    Cold is a state of mind. Having moved to California from Colorado
    earlier
    this year, one of the things I was looking forward to was not having to


    <SNIP FRIGID RR>

    Quoted message said:


    JD

    Nice one! Glad to see you glamor boys in SoCal get to experience my
    season of horror. Got another inch of snow last night and 34F right
    now. They are calling for even colder temps and more snow on Friday.
    Of course, then it will warm up and we won't be able to use the trails
    for two weeks.

    Yikes, I might have to take up skiing again. I wonder how equipment has
    changed in 10 years?

    --
    o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
    www.schnauzers.ws

  4. Ride-A-Lot said:
    JD said:

    Cold is a state of mind. Having moved to California from Colorado
    earlier
    this year, one of the things I was looking forward to was not having to


    <SNIP FRIGID RR>

    Quoted message said:


    JD

    Nice one! Glad to see you glamor boys in SoCal get to experience my
    season of horror. Got another inch of snow last night and 34F right
    now. They are calling for even colder temps and more snow on Friday.
    Of course, then it will warm up and we won't be able to use the trails
    for two weeks.

    Yikes, I might have to take up skiing again. I wonder how equipment has
    changed in 10 years?

    --
    o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
    www.schnauzers.ws

    "Season of horror"?
    Don't be such a drama queen, Mitch. It's a little snow. Get a thicker
    chamois.

    /s

  5. JD said:

    Cold is a state of mind.

    Snip

    Strange, but that RR warmed me up. Thanks!
    Cold is the state of Colorado right now. Yesterday topped in the 20s in
    Salida, same today. Tomorrow it's supposed to hit 13. Not that it's
    cold compared to MattB's burg (berg?) over the hill.

    Shawn

  6. Scott Gordo said:
    Ride-A-Lot said:
    JD said:

    Cold is a state of mind. Having moved to California from Colorado
    earlier
    this year, one of the things I was looking forward to was not having to


    <SNIP FRIGID RR>

    Quoted message said:

    JD

    Nice one! Glad to see you glamor boys in SoCal get to experience my
    season of horror. Got another inch of snow last night and 34F right
    now. They are calling for even colder temps and more snow on Friday.
    Of course, then it will warm up and we won't be able to use the trails
    for two weeks.

    Yikes, I might have to take up skiing again. I wonder how equipment has
    changed in 10 years?

    --
    o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
    www.schnauzers.ws

    "Season of horror"?
    Don't be such a drama queen, Mitch. It's a little snow. Get a thicker
    chamois.

    /s

    LOL! I need a George Castanza winter coat.

    --
    o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
    www.schnauzers.ws

  7. Shawn said:
    JD said:

    Cold is a state of mind.

    Snip

    Strange, but that RR warmed me up. Thanks!
    Cold is the state of Colorado right now. Yesterday topped in the 20s in
    Salida, same today. Tomorrow it's supposed to hit 13. Not that it's
    cold compared to MattB's burg (berg?) over the hill.

    Shawn

    That is cold for the bananna belt, we nearly reached 30 yesterday.
    I was wondering about poor MattB as well, perhaps he is stuck, tongue to
    flagpole, somewhere around the G-Spot and will respond when he gets free.

    --
    Craig Brossman, Durango Colorado

    Owner/Operator of the Pekingnese Ranch.

  8. "JD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Cold is a state of mind. Having moved to California from Colorado
    earlier
    this year, one of the things I was looking forward to was not having to

    endure cold weather.

    I never had a problem with cold until I moved to CO (from AZ and back) for a
    brief period which encompassed one winter. Now I'm cold all of the time.
    Maybe I'm just getting old......but then it was 35F outside (my house)this
    morning here in Phoenix. Must remember to dress in layers for tonights
    ride.

    Nice RR.

    Gary

  9. Ride-A-Lot said:
    Scott Gordo said:
    Ride-A-Lot said:

    JD wrote:
    > Cold is a state of mind. Having moved to California from Colorado
    > earlier
    > this year, one of the things I was looking forward to was not having to
    >
    <SNIP FRIGID RR>
    > JD
    >

    Nice one! Glad to see you glamor boys in SoCal get to experience my
    season of horror. Got another inch of snow last night and 34F right
    now. They are calling for even colder temps and more snow on Friday.
    Of course, then it will warm up and we won't be able to use the trails
    for two weeks.

    Yikes, I might have to take up skiing again. I wonder how equipment has
    changed in 10 years?

    --
    o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
    www.schnauzers.ws

    "Season of horror"?
    Don't be such a drama queen, Mitch. It's a little snow. Get a thicker
    chamois.

    /s

    LOL! I need a George Castanza winter coat.

    --
    o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
    www.schnauzers.ws

    "It's Gore Tex."

    /s

  10. Ride-A-Lot said:
    JD said:

    Cold is a state of mind. Having moved to California from Colorado
    earlier
    this year, one of the things I was looking forward to was not having to


    <SNIP FRIGID RR>

    Quoted message said:


    JD

    Nice one! Glad to see you glamor boys in SoCal get to experience my
    season of horror. Got another inch of snow last night and 34F right
    now. They are calling for even colder temps and more snow on Friday. Of
    course, then it will warm up and we won't be able to use the trails for
    two weeks.

    Horror? An inch of snow? 34F? That's practically summer conditions!

    Yesterday the low -27 and had a high of 13 and there's a foot of snow
    (which has settled from almost two feet a few days ago) on the ground.
    At least it's been warming up to -11 by the time I ride to work.

    Yesterday I was trying to navigate the snowplow pile at the curb on my
    townie (with coffee mug in one hand) and my front wheel dug in and slid
    sideways when I was expecting it to stay on top and grip. The bike slid
    out from under me and I managed to land on my feet and only spill a
    couple of drops of coffee. It's good technical practice and livens up
    the mornings.

    Quoted message said:

    Yikes, I might have to take up skiing again. I wonder how equipment has
    changed in 10 years?

    Lots.
    Skis are shorter and fatter and boots are rarely made of leather
    anymore. The performance gains are huge and it's all easier to control.
    Kids these days don't know how good they've got it!

    Matt

  11. JD said:

    Cold is a state of mind. Having moved to California from Colorado
    earlier
    this year, one of the things I was looking forward to was not having to

    endure cold weather. I can only remember seeing snow come out of the
    skies
    in the LA Basin twice in my lifetime, once in Jr High and another time
    in
    the mid 80's. It just doesn't get cold here. The moutains have other
    ideas
    though, at least attaining somewhat cold temeratures in Winter. Still,
    I
    doubt I'll ever be able to match the -19f I experienced XC skiing once
    at
    10,000ft in Colorado. When your toes go numb, it doesn't matter if
    it's
    -19f or 40f though.

    Well, actually if it's -19 and your toes go numb you have to do
    something about it or risk losing them. At 40 you'll probably be ok. You
    could still get hypothermia but not frostbite.

    <snip>

    Right before Bill stopped after a

    Quoted message said:

    rocky
    turn, I had the good fortune to flip a good sized rock up into my right

    shin. You know, the kind that makes a nice thud noise when it hits and

    tends to leave a good strawberry and lump.

    Ouch. I hate those.

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:


    http://www.spokejunkies.com/forum/uploads/1132604058/gallery_35_32_2807.jpg

    Very nice photo!

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    Yeah, it was cold, even for an expatriate Coloradan.

    That humidity kicks my ass when I head back East or to a coastal area.
    Definitely put more of a chill into and temperature.

    Nice RR, and it sounds like Bill needs to get out on the MTB more!

    Matt (it's a bit chilly here too)

  12. GeeDubb said:


    "JD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Cold is a state of mind. Having moved to California from Colorado
    earlier
    this year, one of the things I was looking forward to was not having to

    endure cold weather.

    I never had a problem with cold until I moved to CO (from AZ and back)
    for a brief period which encompassed one winter. Now I'm cold all of
    the time. Maybe I'm just getting old......but then it was 35F outside
    (my house)this morning here in Phoenix. Must remember to dress in
    layers for tonights ride.

    Nice RR.

    Gary

    35?!?!?! That does it, I'm moving to the equator!

    --
    o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
    www.schnauzers.ws

  13. Scott Gordo said:
    Ride-A-Lot said:
    Scott Gordo said:

    Ride-A-Lot wrote:

    >JD wrote:
    >
    >>Cold is a state of mind. Having moved to California from Colorado
    >>earlier
    >>this year, one of the things I was looking forward to was not having to
    >>
    >
    ><SNIP FRIGID RR>
    >
    >>JD
    >>
    >
    >Nice one! Glad to see you glamor boys in SoCal get to experience my
    >season of horror. Got another inch of snow last night and 34F right
    >now. They are calling for even colder temps and more snow on Friday.
    >Of course, then it will warm up and we won't be able to use the trails
    >for two weeks.
    >
    >Yikes, I might have to take up skiing again. I wonder how equipment has
    >changed in 10 years?
    >
    >--
    >o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
    >www.schnauzers.ws

    "Season of horror"?
    Don't be such a drama queen, Mitch. It's a little snow. Get a thicker
    chamois.

    /s

    LOL! I need a George Castanza winter coat.

    --
    o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
    www.schnauzers.ws

    "It's Gore Tex."

    /s

    That Mechelin Man looking coat was Gore-Tex? I always thought Gore Tex
    meant thin and light.

    --
    o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
    www.schnauzers.ws

  14. MattB said:
    Ride-A-Lot said:
    JD said:

    Cold is a state of mind. Having moved to California from Colorado
    earlier
    this year, one of the things I was looking forward to was not having to


    <SNIP FRIGID RR>

    Quoted message said:


    JD

    Nice one! Glad to see you glamor boys in SoCal get to experience my
    season of horror. Got another inch of snow last night and 34F right
    now. They are calling for even colder temps and more snow on Friday.
    Of course, then it will warm up and we won't be able to use the trails
    for two weeks.

    Horror? An inch of snow? 34F? That's practically summer conditions!

    Yesterday the low -27 and had a high of 13 and there's a foot of snow
    (which has settled from almost two feet a few days ago) on the ground.
    At least it's been warming up to -11 by the time I ride to work.

    Yesterday I was trying to navigate the snowplow pile at the curb on my
    townie (with coffee mug in one hand) and my front wheel dug in and slid
    sideways when I was expecting it to stay on top and grip. The bike slid
    out from under me and I managed to land on my feet and only spill a
    couple of drops of coffee. It's good technical practice and livens up
    the mornings.

    I wouldn't be so bad if the temps stayed below freezing. What happens
    is you constantly have a freze and then a thaw. Since there is no
    transpiration in the winter from the vegetation, the trail becomes soft
    like pudding. If you ride, you risk putting in rutts and then they will
    freeze in the next cold day. It's a crappy situation.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    Yikes, I might have to take up skiing again. I wonder how equipment
    has changed in 10 years?

    Lots.
    Skis are shorter and fatter and boots are rarely made of leather
    anymore. The performance gains are huge and it's all easier to control.
    Kids these days don't know how good they've got it!

    Matt

    I bet the price has gone up too. Anyone need a pair of vintage K2's and
    Raichle boots?

    --
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  15. JD said:

    Jumping out of the truck, I noticed that the 37f
    shown
    was enhanced by the aforementioned stiff breeze out of the North.

    Sounds frigid.

    Quoted message said:

    The surface of the trial
    didn't
    change much either, which was fine by me. A few stretches gave way to
    stunning views to the North off of the mountain we were on. If any of
    us
    happened to be an acrophobic, it would not have been a good thing.

    http://www.spokejunkies.com/forum/uploads/1133811944/gallery_35_32_126832.jpg

    That looks awesome!

    Greg

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    "Destroy your safe and happy lives before it is too late
    The battles we fought were long and hard
    Just not to be consumed by rock and roll" - The Mekons

  16. GeeDubb said:


    "JD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Cold is a state of mind. Having moved to California from Colorado
    earlier
    this year, one of the things I was looking forward to was not having to

    endure cold weather.

    I never had a problem with cold until I moved to CO (from AZ and back)
    for a brief period which encompassed one winter. Now I'm cold all of
    the time. Maybe I'm just getting old......but then it was 35F outside
    (my house)this morning here in Phoenix.

    It's all relative. You wore less insulation than I did for our Chilao ride.

    Greg

    --
    "Destroy your safe and happy lives before it is too late
    The battles we fought were long and hard
    Just not to be consumed by rock and roll" - The Mekons

  17. Ride-A-Lot said:
    Scott Gordo said:
    Ride-A-Lot said:

    Scott Gordo wrote:

    > Ride-A-Lot wrote:
    >
    >> JD wrote:
    >>
    >>> Cold is a state of mind. Having moved to California from Colorado
    >>> earlier
    >>> this year, one of the things I was looking forward to was not
    >>> having to
    >>>
    >>
    >> <SNIP FRIGID RR>
    >>
    >>> JD
    >>>
    >>
    >> Nice one! Glad to see you glamor boys in SoCal get to experience my
    >> season of horror. Got another inch of snow last night and 34F right
    >> now. They are calling for even colder temps and more snow on Friday.
    >> Of course, then it will warm up and we won't be able to use the trails
    >> for two weeks.
    >>
    >> Yikes, I might have to take up skiing again. I wonder how
    >> equipment has
    >> changed in 10 years?
    >>
    >> --
    >> o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
    >> www.schnauzers.ws
    >
    >
    > "Season of horror"?
    > Don't be such a drama queen, Mitch. It's a little snow. Get a thicker
    > chamois.
    >
    > /s
    >

    LOL! I need a George Castanza winter coat.

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    "It's Gore Tex."

    /s

    That Mechelin Man looking coat was Gore-Tex? I always thought Gore Tex
    meant thin and light.

    You can put as much stuffing as you want under a Gore-Tex shell.

    Greg

    --
    "Destroy your safe and happy lives before it is too late
    The battles we fought were long and hard
    Just not to be consumed by rock and roll" - The Mekons

  18. "Ride-A-Lot" <"mitchel[nospam]"@schnauzers.ws> ..but then it was 35F outside

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    (my house)this morning here in Phoenix. Must remember to dress in layers
    for tonights ride.

    Nice RR.

    Gary

    35?!?!?! That does it, I'm moving to the equator!


    Too many bugs and too much humidity for me. Plus me thinks no IT jobs for
    you.

    Gary

  19. Ride-A-Lot said:
    MattB said:
    Ride-A-Lot said:

    Yikes, I might have to take up skiing again. I wonder how equipment
    has changed in 10 years?

    Lots.
    Skis are shorter and fatter and boots are rarely made of leather
    anymore. The performance gains are huge and it's all easier to
    control. Kids these days don't know how good they've got it!

    Matt

    I bet the price has gone up too. Anyone need a pair of vintage K2's and
    Raichle boots?

    Use them. Snow is still snow.

    Greg

    --
    "Destroy your safe and happy lives before it is too late
    The battles we fought were long and hard
    Just not to be consumed by rock and roll" - The Mekons

  20. Ride-A-Lot wrote:
    <snip>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "It's Gore Tex."

    /s

    That Mechelin Man looking coat was Gore-Tex? I always thought Gore Tex
    meant thin and light.

    Gore-Tex is just a laminate layer that can be used with just about any
    garment. It lets moisture vapor pass through, but not liquid. That helps
    keep the wearer dry because their sweat will vaporize, but outside
    moisture won't get in.
    Most of those "Michelin Man" jackets are down, and some may have a
    Gore-Tex layer (or even several) but the presence of GoreText doesn't
    necessarily indicate thin. That being said, it is found more commonly on
    thin shells designed for layering than down jackets for insulating.

    Everyone has a "Michelin Man" jacket here - mine isn't Gore-Tex but
    works well!

    Matt

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