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  1. I've been struggling with a bad back all week. Last Sunday it locked up
    as I was flushing the loo. By Thursday my back had loosened enough for
    me to do some gentle dancing. On Friday I did a little bit of fencing,
    but had to retire early. This morning, I awoke stiff (no, stoppit!)
    but I felt I ought to take advantage of a rare break in the weather to
    have a ride.

    Common sense took over: most of my recent riding has been on the 26"
    MUni with 170mm cranks. I fancied a ride on the 700c, but thout the
    sudden change to the slightly larger wheel, and the, er... 102 mm
    cranks might be too much. So I swapped the cranks for 110s, found my
    kit (scattered widely about the house) and drove down to Trent Fields:

    I walk the short distance to the field, and get a "Do you know you've
    lost half your bike, mate?" I respond with the thinnest of thin
    smiles.

    Hmmmm. So, who forgot to lower the seat then? Cranks 8mm longer, so
    seat should be 8mm lower. It makes more difference than you might
    think...

    So, freemounting is easy enough, but it feels like a stretch to reach
    that bottom pedal. The skinny high pressure tyre and light weight make
    the uni skittish. I get off to adjust the seat, and realise that
    unlike every other unicycle in my fleet, this one needs an Allen key
    (hex wrench) as it has no quick release. So much for form over
    function.

    I set off across the field, and lose traction in the mud, UPD-ing. The
    impact of seat with ground knocks the seat out of alignment, and I have
    to apply a firm blow with the heel of my hand to knock it straight. A
    dog walker comments, "Heavy going?"

    I walk to the riverside path and remount. I ride uncomfortably. The
    seat is way too high. I must have had it exactly right before, or even
    a touch high, for the extra 8mm to make that much difference. I stop
    at a bench seat and search my tool kit. For years I carried an Allen
    key and never used it. I must have rationalised my toolkit some time
    because the Allen key is no longer there.

    I reach a section of path covered with slimy wet autumnal leaves.
    Randomly, I UPD. I realise that this is no fun. After less than half
    a mile, I turn back.

    It's about 15 minutes to get home, and allowing for time spent
    adjusting the seat and a further round trip, the window of opportunity
    for a ride today has gone.

    I adjust the seat. It takes several goes, and I have to lower it
    further than I expect. Eventually, I get it just right, and I find
    myself idling comfortably, with either foot, and riding backwards as
    well. That short time on 102s 9and a brief period with 89s) must have
    done some good. I was never this confident on 110s before. The
    dancefloor effect has worked.

    Over-cocky, I lose concentration and fall off the back, landing on my
    backside, jarring my bad back, and cutting my hand. I also jar my
    wrist because I'm not wearing wristguards.

    Back in the house, a thought strikes me. I find a ruler. The ""110s"
    I'd put on were actually 125s. No wonder 8mm made so much difference.
    It was 23 mm! I had been riding with my seat an inch too high.

    How I laughed.

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  2. Wow, That does sound like a harsh ride. Falling at the end was nasty
    icing!

    Stochastically, your next ride will be a better one. 🙂

    Hope your back and wrist feels better. Sudden falls are jarring to the
    body and ego! I haven't had one since July, so I'm due...

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  3. podzol said:


    Stochastically, your next ride will be a better one. 🙂

    Hope your back and wrist feels better. Sudden falls are jarring to the
    body and ego! I haven't had one since July, so I'm due...

    Tut! "Stochastically" and the "gambler's fallacy" in one short post.😉

    Thanks for the kind thoughts. It was a disappointing expedition, but I
    can see the funny side. Too many cranks: that's the problem with my
    spare parts bin and with the world in general.🙂

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  4. Yes, I know about the gamblers fallacy.🙄

    But if you roll a 1 there is a 1 in 12 chance of your next roll being a
    one and a 11 in 12 chance of it being greater than one. SO you are
    likely to have a better ride next time. Right?

    Beyond this. If you look at a distribution of ride quality, you might
    get a Gaussian-like function. The probablilty of ending up in one of
    the distribution tails is far less likely that ending up near the mean.
    Correct? Each ride is most likely to fall within a standard deviation
    of the mean, so your next ride (or any ride) will likely be better than
    the one you had this morning that might be categorized as a "lower tail
    ride.".

    We have the first snow of the season this morning and it is lovely>

    "too many cranks" ...that's the problem with the people in my office!

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  5. Re my post. Rolling using a D-12 not D-6. Must have been all those years
    of D&D!

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  6. Bummer! I've had annoying rides like that where nothing goes right -
    usually seems to be when I've actually made the effort to drive
    somewhere different rather than just being lazy and riding the tracks
    around home. I had a pretty depressing ride in Haldon woods (near
    Exeter) a few weeks ago - spent most of the time bogged down in slimey
    mud then frightened the [censored] out of myself on a bit of MTB downhill
    track.

    I haven't ridden any form of cycle since my crash last Monday - neck
    took ages to stop hurting and the bruises on my [censored] didn't help much
    either 🙁
    Got a new helmet yesterday, so I should be back bi- and unicycling
    tomorrow.

    Rob

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  7. podzol said:

    Yes, I know about the gamblers fallacy.🙄

    But if you roll a 1 there is a 1 in 12 chance of your next roll being a
    one and a 11 in 12 chance of it being greater than one. SO you are
    likely to have a better ride next time. Right?
    QUOTE]

    Yes, but my jocular reference to the gambler's fallacy referred to your
    equally jocular comment that you "were due" a fall because you hadn't
    had one for a while.

    Presumably the probability of having a fall on a given "standard ride"
    is either a constant, or decreases slightly as you gain experience. It
    doesn't beome more likely as the sequence of successfully fall-free
    rides continues.

    As for the dice - of course you meant 1D12, because you can't throw 1
    on 2D6... although we had a regular D&D player at school who used to
    roll his characters at home "to save time" and could pretty much roll
    anything he wanted. A typical character had at least three eighteens
    and max hit points.

    As for the Gaussian stuff, you lose me there. I'm not a mathematician;
    all of my understanding of probability being based on many years of rpg
    design, and just general chats with a like-minded friend who is a
    statistician. My knowledge of the gambler's fallacy comes from an
    interest in logic, rather than statistics.

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  8. Mikefule said:


    podzol said:

    As for the Gaussian stuff, you lose me there. I'm not a mathematician;
    all of my understanding of probability being based on many years of rpg
    design, and just general chats with a like-minded friend who is a
    statistician. My knowledge of the gambler's fallacy comes from an
    interest in logic, rather than statistics.

    [image:
    http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/math/immath/gauds.gif]

    That is a Gaussian curve. A guassian curve is basically a
    representation of normal distribution. Normal distribution occurs a
    lot in nature, ranging from people's sizes to the amount of leaves on
    a plant. (Dice don't have normal distribution, they have binominal
    distribution). The entire area (A) of the curve is 1, and the tallest
    peak is the mean. The height of the curve at a given point is the
    chance of that occuring. Now, as you can see, the further you get
    away from the mean, the smaller the chance of this occuring. For
    example, if dice had a normal distribution, the mean would be 3.5
    ((1+6)/2), now, 1 is far away from 3.5, so the chance of getting a 1
    would be smaller as opposed to the chance of getting a 3 or a 4.
    Luckily, dice don't have normal distribution. Would make those RPGs a
    lot harder 😉

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  9. Mikefule said:


    podzol said:

    As for the Gaussian stuff, you lose me there. I'm not a mathematician;
    all of my understanding of probability being based on many years of rpg
    design, and just general chats with a like-minded friend who is a
    statistician. My knowledge of the gambler's fallacy comes from an
    interest in logic, rather than statistics.

    [image:
    http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/math/immath/gauds.gif]

    That is a Gaussian curve. A guassian curve is basically a
    representation of normal distribution. Normal distribution occurs a
    lot in nature, ranging from people's sizes to the amount of leaves on
    a plant. (Dice don't have normal distribution, they have binominal
    distribution). The entire area (A) of the curve is 1, and the tallest
    peak is the mean. The height of the curve at a given point is the
    chance of that occuring. Now, as you can see, the further you get
    away from the mean, the smaller the chance of this occuring. For
    example, if dice had a normal distribution, the mean would be 3.5
    ((1+6)/2), now, 1 is far away from 3.5, so the chance of getting a 1
    would be smaller as opposed to the chance of getting a 3 or a 4.
    Luckily, dice don't have normal distribution. Would make those RPGs a
    lot harder 😉

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  10. Mikefule said:


    podzol said:

    As for the Gaussian stuff, you lose me there. I'm not a mathematician;
    all of my understanding of probability being based on many years of rpg
    design, and just general chats with a like-minded friend who is a
    statistician. My knowledge of the gambler's fallacy comes from an
    interest in logic, rather than statistics.

    [image:
    http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/math/immath/gauds.gif]

    That is a Gaussian curve. A guassian curve is basically a
    representation of normal distribution. Normal distribution occurs a
    lot in nature, ranging from people's sizes to the amount of leaves on
    a plant. (Dice don't have normal distribution, they have binominal
    distribution). The entire area (A) of the curve is 1, and the tallest
    peak is the mean. The height of the curve at a given point is the
    chance of that occuring. Now, as you can see, the further you get
    away from the mean, the smaller the chance of this occuring. For
    example, if dice had a normal distribution, the mean would be 3.5
    ((1+6)/2), now, 1 is far away from 3.5, so the chance of getting a 1
    would be smaller as opposed to the chance of getting a 3 or a 4.
    Luckily, dice don't have normal distribution. Would make those RPGs a
    lot harder 😉

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  11. Great write-up Mike. I can definately relate to your ride. I have been
    riding my 24x3 Muni exclusively (whenever I have a chance to ride at
    all) and decided to pull out my 700c uni for a quick jaunt. I had just
    built a new KK frame and had ridden it a total of maybe 100
    yards/meters. Being as I was pressed for time, I decided to do the
    trail that runs between a few of the old Spanish Missions along the San
    Antonio River as it was near my hpme. There was a slight drizzle and I
    had also decided to try a different pair of shoes for this inaugural
    outing. Within 1/2 mile I had my first UPD because I had left the
    plastic pedals on instead of changing them to some quality pinned
    pedals. Between a combination of drizzle, crappy pedals and shoes that
    had no grip, I countinued to find my feet constantly slipping off the
    pedals, resulting in more UPD's. I put up with this aggrevation for
    almost 5 miles before finally giving up and turning around. Surprising,
    on the return trip, the UPD's became fewer and far between ( I guess it
    just took awhile to adjust to the shrter crank/ taller wheel/ slippery
    pedal thing). When I finally made it back to the car, I pulled out my
    trusty 24x3 Muni for a spin around the parking lot and couldn't hardly
    ride it! I guess my body had become accustomed to the totally different
    feel of the other uni. Finally after about 5-10 minutes the 24x3
    started to feel normal again. I will not be getting back on the 700c
    uni until I switch out the pedals for something with a more stable
    platform😉

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  12. Great write-up Mike. I can definately relate to your ride. I have been
    riding my 24x3 Muni exclusively (whenever I have a chance to ride at
    all) and decided to pull out my 700c uni for a quick jaunt. I had just
    built a new KK frame and had ridden it a total of maybe 100
    yards/meters. Being as I was pressed for time, I decided to do the
    trail that runs between a few of the old Spanish Missions along the San
    Antonio River as it was near my hpme. There was a slight drizzle and I
    had also decided to try a different pair of shoes for this inaugural
    outing. Within 1/2 mile I had my first UPD because I had left the
    plastic pedals on instead of changing them to some quality pinned
    pedals. Between a combination of drizzle, crappy pedals and shoes that
    had no grip, I countinued to find my feet constantly slipping off the
    pedals, resulting in more UPD's. I put up with this aggrevation for
    almost 5 miles before finally giving up and turning around. Surprising,
    on the return trip, the UPD's became fewer and far between ( I guess it
    just took awhile to adjust to the shrter crank/ taller wheel/ slippery
    pedal thing). When I finally made it back to the car, I pulled out my
    trusty 24x3 Muni for a spin around the parking lot and couldn't hardly
    ride it! I guess my body had become accustomed to the totally different
    feel of the other uni. Finally after about 5-10 minutes the 24x3
    started to feel normal again. I will not be getting back on the 700c
    uni until I switch out the pedals for something with a more stable
    platform😉

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  13. Great write-up Mike. I can definately relate to your ride. I have been
    riding my 24x3 Muni exclusively (whenever I have a chance to ride at
    all) and decided to pull out my 700c uni for a quick jaunt. I had just
    built a new KK frame and had ridden it a total of maybe 100
    yards/meters. Being as I was pressed for time, I decided to do the
    trail that runs between a few of the old Spanish Missions along the San
    Antonio River as it was near my hpme. There was a slight drizzle and I
    had also decided to try a different pair of shoes for this inaugural
    outing. Within 1/2 mile I had my first UPD because I had left the
    plastic pedals on instead of changing them to some quality pinned
    pedals. Between a combination of drizzle, crappy pedals and shoes that
    had no grip, I countinued to find my feet constantly slipping off the
    pedals, resulting in more UPD's. I put up with this aggrevation for
    almost 5 miles before finally giving up and turning around. Surprising,
    on the return trip, the UPD's became fewer and far between ( I guess it
    just took awhile to adjust to the shrter crank/ taller wheel/ slippery
    pedal thing). When I finally made it back to the car, I pulled out my
    trusty 24x3 Muni for a spin around the parking lot and couldn't hardly
    ride it! I guess my body had become accustomed to the totally different
    feel of the other uni. Finally after about 5-10 minutes the 24x3
    started to feel normal again. I will not be getting back on the 700c
    uni until I switch out the pedals for something with a more stable
    platform😉

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  14. Erant said:

    Luckily, dice don't have normal distribution. Would make those RPGs a
    lot harder 😉

    Thanks for clarifying. I was familiar with the normal distribution
    curve, in a very general sense. I recall it from school as a "bell
    curve" and later as "normal distribution". I didn't know the Gaussian
    bit.

    1 die has a uniform distribution.
    2 dice would give a triangular "curve"
    3 or more dice would give a bell curve. I don't know whether that
    meets all the criteria for "Gaussian". Does it?

    We did loads of stuff with 3 or more dice for this reason. It all
    seems so long ago. Whither youth?🙁

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    her, everything else must be be valued at little."
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  15. Mikefule said:

    Tut! "Stochastically" and the "gambler's fallacy" in one short post.😉

    Thanks for the kind thoughts. It was a disappointing expedition, but I
    can see the funny side. Too many cranks: that's the problem with my
    spare parts bin and with the world in general.🙂

    I wasn't sure whether the world had too many cranks or too many spare
    parts. It took less than a moment to plump for both

    Nao

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