Cold brewed coffee?

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Anyone here tried cold brewed coffee? I've ordered some concentrate to
try for the first time.

It seems to live up to its billing. Advocates generally claim lower
acid, lower caffeine, and a liquid concentrate that keeps well for more
than a week.

We had a friend who prepared cold brewed coffee exclusively and we
drank it often when we visited. Until they moved away.

Pretty much for all the reasons listed as advantages, we didn't much
like it. It didn't have enough caffeeine for us, the taste lacked
something, probably acid, and the idea of adding water and zapping it
just didn't seem "fresh" to us. -aem

aem said:

Quoted message said:

Anyone here tried cold brewed coffee? I've ordered some concentrate to
try for the first time.

It seems to live up to its billing. Advocates generally claim lower
acid, lower caffeine, and a liquid concentrate that keeps well for more
than a week.

We had a friend who prepared cold brewed coffee exclusively and we
drank it often when we visited. Until they moved away.

Pretty much for all the reasons listed as advantages, we didn't much
like it. It didn't have enough caffeeine for us, the taste lacked
something, probably acid, and the idea of adding water and zapping it
just didn't seem "fresh" to us. -aem

Nor does cold brewing release the oils that move the flavor around.
Bland and insipid.

jim

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Anyone here tried cold brewed coffee? I've ordered some concentrate to
try for the first time.

http://www.toddycafe.com/

Ever thought aout searching the news group? Topic has been done,
almost, to death.

The Toddymaker has been around for a long time. How often have you
seen it at anyone's home?

That should tell you something right there.

jim

Quoted message said:

Anyone here tried cold brewed coffee? I've ordered some concentrate to
try for the first time.

http://www.toddycafe.com/

Yes. The result is an insipid 'brew' with no varietal characteristics
evident at all. It's like mixing grape KoolAid and grain alcohol and
calling it wine.

On Fri 02 Dec 2005 06:19:45p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Bubbabob?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Anyone here tried cold brewed coffee? I've ordered some concentrate to
try for the first time.

http://www.toddycafe.com/

Yes. The result is an insipid 'brew' with no varietal characteristics
evident at all. It's like mixing grape KoolAid and grain alcohol and
calling it wine.

You mean that isn't wine? <shattered image> :-)

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
_____________________________________________

A chicken in every pot is a *LOT* of chicken!

Wayne Boatwright said:

On Fri 02 Dec 2005 06:19:45p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Bubbabob?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Anyone here tried cold brewed coffee? I've ordered some concentrate to
try for the first time.

http://www.toddycafe.com/

Yes. The result is an insipid 'brew' with no varietal characteristics
evident at all. It's like mixing grape KoolAid and grain alcohol and
calling it wine.

You mean that isn't wine? <shattered image> :-)

mmm the velvet crush
oh how i miss high school

--
..:Heather:.
www.velvet-c.com

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Quoted message said:

Yes. The result is an insipid 'brew' with no
varietal characteristics evident at all. It's like
mixing grape KoolAid and grain alcohol and
calling it wine.

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You mean that isn't wine? <shattered image> :-)

No, it's a cocktail (or, worse, a grape martini). 🙂
-j

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Ever thought aout searching the news group? Topic
has been done, almost, to death.

You could say that about practically everything we talk about. Do you only
draw the line at topics you're tired of?
-j

jacqui{JB} said:

"ensenadajim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Ever thought aout searching the news group? Topic
has been done, almost, to death.

You could say that about practically everything we talk about. Do you only
draw the line at topics you're tired of?
-j

I could point at you! Of course, I could tell you what they are saying
about you . . . ;->

The point is that people very rarely ever bother loking for things on
their own. They are too lazy to google the group and do some checking.
It is symptomatic of the lousy eductaion system we have in the US.
Everyone expects someone else to do their work for them.

Are you sympathetic to that syndrome?

jim

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It is symptomatic of the lousy eductaion system we
have in the US. Everyone expects someone else to
do their work for them.

Are you sympathetic to that syndrome?

Not at all. I think, however, that you're conflating two different
problems. As you say, many people prefer others to do their homework for
them -- we see that often here, someone coming by, saying they have a
project and can someone give them this, that or the other. What bothers me
more is the lack of clue most 'net newbies exhibit: very few lurk for any
length of time, nor bother to search for, much less read, charters and faqs.
And there's a distinct lack of netiquette, but I suppose that's a rant for
another day.

If I had to hazard a guess, on rereading the original post, the poster was
probably trolling for website hits; it's not a name I recognize (not that I
read every post or scan every poster's name), and one-liners with a link to
a salable product are usually spam (walks like a duck, quacks like a duck
....).

I do, however, find it amusing that you seem to assume that
rec.food.cooking, a Usenet group, is somehow limited to participants from
the US.
-j

ensenadajim said:

The Toddymaker has been around for a long time. How often have you
seen it at anyone's home?

That should tell you something right there.

Not necessarily. I have a French Press I have had a long time - use it
all the time. You'll probably never see it if you were to visit as it
is stored or on the dishwasher.

I generally don't not the presence or absence of gadgets in people's
homes. I doubt most people do.

-L.

jacqui{JB} said:

"ensenadajim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

It is symptomatic of the lousy eductaion system we
have in the US. Everyone expects someone else to
do their work for them.

Are you sympathetic to that syndrome?

Not at all. I think, however, that you're conflating two different
problems. As you say, many people prefer others to do their homework for
them -- we see that often here, someone coming by, saying they have a
project and can someone give them this, that or the other. What bothers me
more is the lack of clue most 'net newbies exhibit: very few lurk for any
length of time, nor bother to search for, much less read, charters and faqs.
And there's a distinct lack of netiquette, but I suppose that's a rant for
another day.

Common netiquette used to be for someone to lurk for awhile, read some
of the back messages, and search the ng for topics of interest, then
ask if you have not found the answer.

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If I had to hazard a guess, on rereading the original post, the poster was
probably trolling for website hits; it's not a name I recognize (not that I
read every post or scan every poster's name), and one-liners with a link to
a salable product are usually spam (walks like a duck, quacks like a duck
...).

Agree.

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I do, however, find it amusing that you seem to assume that
rec.food.cooking, a Usenet group, is somehow limited to participants from
the US.
-j

I do? What evidence do you have for that baseless statement? I've been
in communication with a lot of folks here from other countries.

You might call me on assuming that the poster was from the US, but not
for my comments on our less than stellar educational system.

jim

jacqui{JB} said:

"ensenadajim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

It is symptomatic of the lousy eductaion system we
have in the US. Everyone expects someone else to
do their work for them.

Are you sympathetic to that syndrome?

Not at all. I think, however, that you're conflating two different
problems. As you say, many people prefer others to do their homework for
them -- we see that often here, someone coming by, saying they have a
project and can someone give them this, that or the other. What bothers me
more is the lack of clue most 'net newbies exhibit: very few lurk for any
length of time, nor bother to search for, much less read, charters and faqs.
And there's a distinct lack of netiquette, but I suppose that's a rant for
another day.

If I had to hazard a guess, on rereading the original post, the poster was
probably trolling for website hits; it's not a name I recognize (not that I
read every post or scan every poster's name), and one-liners with a link to
a salable product are usually spam (walks like a duck, quacks like a duck
...).

I do, however, find it amusing that you seem to assume that
rec.food.cooking, a Usenet group, is somehow limited to participants from
the US.

BTW, the poster ran through google groups and was there to answer his
own question, but was, if it was a legitmate post, to ignorant to do
his own work.

jim

-L. said:

ensenadajim said:

The Toddymaker has been around for a long time. How often have you
seen it at anyone's home?

That should tell you something right there.

Not necessarily. I have a French Press I have had a long time - use it
all the time. You'll probably never see it if you were to visit as it
is stored or on the dishwasher.

I generally don't not the presence or absence of gadgets in people's
homes. I doubt most people do.

-L.

Really, most of the folks I know have a lot of socializing going on in
their kitchens. Little things like a press pit are usually out if they
are used regularly.

I guess your crowd has a different kitchen counter standard than mine.

Further, a toddymaker would come into evidence anytime someone was
serving coffee.

When was the last time you saw someone pull out a container of thick
black fluid from the refrigerator, pour some into cups, add either
boiling water or cold water and nuke?

jim

In article <[email hidden]>,

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Anyone here tried cold brewed coffee? I've ordered some concentrate to
try for the first time.

http://www.toddycafe.com/

I have a Toddy. Used it for a couple months and then
quit. If you like it, you can probably find one cheap
(or work up something yourself--it isn't rocket science).
I can't imagine pre-made concentrate is as good as what
you make yourself.

I agree with the other posters--the concentrate lacks
much of the character of brewed coffee. However, what
I haven't seen mentioned is that it makes terrific
iced coffee. In fact, many good coffee shops use
"Toddy bags" to make concentrate for iced coffee.
My favorite one uses the old beans that didn't sell
(I think their definition is "4 days past roast date"😉.

Mike Beede

Mike Beede said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Quoted message said:

Anyone here tried cold brewed coffee? I've ordered some concentrate to
try for the first time.

http://www.toddycafe.com/

I have a Toddy. Used it for a couple months and then
quit. If you like it, you can probably find one cheap
(or work up something yourself--it isn't rocket science).
I can't imagine pre-made concentrate is as good as what
you make yourself.

I agree with the other posters--the concentrate lacks
much of the character of brewed coffee. However, what
I haven't seen mentioned is that it makes terrific
iced coffee. In fact, many good coffee shops use
"Toddy bags" to make concentrate for iced coffee.
My favorite one uses the old beans that didn't sell
(I think their definition is "4 days past roast date"😉.

Mike Beede

yep. That's what I use my cold-brewed for. I can't drink regular
coffee - too acidic.
-L.

I love cold brew coffee, but I wouldn't say I'm your typical coffee drinker
either. I don't live for those 2, 3, 4 whole pots of coffee in the morning
before my day starts. Since I started cold brewing I now have one cup of
coffee a day. I did experiement with cold coffee this past summer and yes
it made a wonderful "Kahlua and cream" tasting concoction.

Lynne

"aem" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Anyone here tried cold brewed coffee? I've ordered some concentrate to
try for the first time.

It seems to live up to its billing. Advocates generally claim lower
acid, lower caffeine, and a liquid concentrate that keeps well for more
than a week.

We had a friend who prepared cold brewed coffee exclusively and we
drank it often when we visited. Until they moved away.

Pretty much for all the reasons listed as advantages, we didn't much
like it. It didn't have enough caffeeine for us, the taste lacked
something, probably acid, and the idea of adding water and zapping it
just didn't seem "fresh" to us. -aem

"ensenadajim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I do, however, find it amusing that you seem
to assume that rec.food.cooking, a Usenet group,
is somehow limited to participants from the US.

Quoted message said:

I do? What evidence do you have for that baseless
statement? I've been in communication with a lot of
folks here from other countries.

Your statement on the state of the US educational system led to my above
statement. Not having a view into your in/out boxes, I have no knowledge of
who you've been talking to via rfc. 🙂

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You might call me on assuming that the poster was
from the US, but not for my comments on our less
than stellar educational system.

Pretty much -- and it was quite a tangent. 🙂 I've been watching with
dismay the decline of the US education system (this latest go-round with
"intelligent design" has been very disheartening indeed, not to mention the
discussions I've had with my stepmother, a kindergarten teacher in SoCal,
which have me oh-so happy I never had children to put through the public
school system; and don't get me started on the Danish system ...). I think
it's fair to say, though, that no place has a perfect system; each has its
strengths and weaknesses.

-j

"If I had to hazard a guess, on rereading the original post, the poster
was
probably trolling for website hits; it's not a name I recognize (not
that I
read every post or scan every poster's name), and one-liners with a
link to
a salable product are usually spam (walks like a duck, quacks like a
duck
....). "

I did do a Google newgroup search. There were several posters who said
they were going to try it and never did follow up on it (I guess this
should have clued me in), but I have also read extremely positive posts
elsewhere (i.e., not on this newsgroup). Yes, I've been lurking here
and I think this is my first post (thanks for the "welcome."😉 It
happens in every news group. A new person posts and gets jumped on by
the older posters. (It was not spam--Jim--shows how perceptive you
are)