helmets and the TdF

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Without wishing to fire off the great H****t debate, it seems to me

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this years Tour de France has had a higher than normal number of pile-ups and crashes (and more
injuries). It has been said that one is more

likely

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to crash in a helmet and this year is the first where helmet wearing was compulsory on the TdF.
Coincidence or are my prejudices showing?

Nah, the number of crashes was normal for the TdF. 1st week is always a bit mentla with the green
jersey contenders sorting themselves out and domestiques still getting used to running their errands
in such a massive peloton. There can be no link between the level of crashes and helmets, but they
did dump the clip-on bars a few back as they were seen as a cause. Radios may will be factor but
again, so difficult to judge really, I have no idea how much they actually use the radios whilst in
the bunch.

IanB said:

Without wishing to fire off the great H****t debate, it seems to me that this years Tour de
France has had a higher than normal number of pile-ups and crashes (and more injuries). It has
been said that one is more likely to crash in a helmet and this year is the first where helmet
wearing was compulsory on the TdF. Coincidence or are my prejudices showing?

With a sample base of 1 it's impossible to read anything useful from the data any way

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Nah, the number of crashes was normal for the TdF. 1st week is always a

bit

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mentla with the green jersey contenders sorting themselves out and domestiques still getting used
to running their errands in such a massive peloton.

What does peloton mean? I keep seeing this referenced to biking and I haven't got a dictionary....

Slim

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Nah, the number of crashes was normal for the TdF. 1st week is always a

bit

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mentla with the green jersey contenders sorting themselves out and domestiques still getting
used to running their errands in such a

massive

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peloton.

What does peloton mean? I keep seeing this referenced to biking and I haven't got a dictionary....

Slim

The main bunch of cyclists, around 200ish in the Tour de France but smaller in most other pro races
whether they are one-dayers or longer multi-day races. Riders can 'hide' in the peloton due to the
slipstreaming effect so they can actual not put much effort in yet go quite fast, handy if they are
tired, ill etc.

It was also the fastest TDF to date.

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What does peloton mean? I keep seeing this referenced to biking and I haven't got a
dictionary....

Slim

The main bunch of cyclists, around 200ish in the Tour de France but smaller in most other pro
races whether they are one-dayers or longer multi-day races. Riders can 'hide' in the peloton due
to the slipstreaming effect so they can actual not put much effort in yet go quite fast, handy if
they are tired, ill etc.

Don't know what its literal translation is, isn't pelote a s french lacrosse type game?

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Don't know what its literal translation is, isn't pelote a s french lacrosse type game?

"Pelota", also known as "jai alai", is a popular game in the Basque regions of France and Spain.
It's a cross between, er, squash and something
psychotic. The players have long curving baskets strapped to their arms with which the catch and
hurl the ball - the latter at speed approaching 200 mph. Clearly it is for lunatics.

It says here (somewhere upon the InterWeb):

`As you probably know, peloton is, among other things, the French equivalent to a small group or
platoon (and is cognate with "Pelota", the Basque ball game). The pack in the Tour de France can be
over a hundred strong on occasions - some platoon.`

"Belote" is, I believe, a French card game, trivia fans.

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martin said:

Don't know what its literal translation is, isn't pelote a s french lacrosse type game?

"Pelota", also known as "jai alai", is a popular game in the Basque

regions

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of France and Spain. It's a cross between, er, squash and something
psychotic. The players have long curving baskets strapped to their arms with which the catch and
hurl the ball - the latter at speed approaching

200

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mph. Clearly it is for lunatics.

It says here (somewhere upon the InterWeb):

`As you probably know, peloton is, among other things, the French

equivalent

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to a small group or platoon (and is cognate with "Pelota", the Basque ball game). The pack in the
Tour de France can be over a hundred strong on occasions - some platoon.`

Don't think it's anything to do with the ball game, I seem to recall C+ saying it meant 'herd'.

Rich